[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000 - page 284.

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Quote from: haitch on May 06, 2015, 11:57:47 PM

Oh Elmit - beside your pool charging 33%, you're now 8 blocks off of reality - you may want to kick your wallet so you can continue to steal from your miners and bots.

Why people keep mine in Elmit pool if he scam them? Maybe they dont know they are cheated?
Simple solution send to every one msg how he did for invite ppl

haitch

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Oh Elmit - beside your pool charging 33%, you're now 8 blocks off of reality - you may want to kick your wallet so you can continue to steal from your miners and bots.

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Bizmark13

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If i buy some hdd now, my ROI may never happen
For example 3 x 4TB drives mining solo 24/7 for 60 months from now on (cost and electricity only for drives)
Total BURST = 1253000

Calculated for Burst price = 0,00000105 and BTC = 230$

And for Burst price = 0,00000210

Code:

For Price = 0,00000105

|Month|Block |Per Day|Per Month| $ Per|ROI for |ROI with 0,6$ per month
| |Reward| | | Month|11TB(450$)|HDD Electricity Only(12 watts)
1 6634 2073 63044 15,23 -434,77 -435,37
2 6318 1974 60042 14,50 -420,27 -421,47
3 6017 1880 57183 13,81 -406,47 -408,27
4 5731 1791 54460 13,15 -393,31 -395,71
5 5458 1706 51866 12,53 -380,79 -383,79
6 5198 1624 49396 11,93 -368,86 -372,46
7 4950 1547 47044 11,36 -357,50 -361,70
8 4715 1473 44804 10,82 -346,68 -351,48
9 4490 1403 42670 10,30 -336,37 -341,77
10 4276 1336 40639 9,81 -326,56 -332,56
11 4073 1273 38703 9,35 -317,21 -323,81
12 3879 1212 36860 8,90 -308,31 -315,51
13 3694 1154 35105 8,48 -299,83 -307,63
14 3518 1099 33433 8,07 -291,76 -300,16
15 3351 1047 31841 7,69 -284,07 -293,07
16 3191 997 30325 7,32 -276,74 -286,34
17 3039 950 28881 6,97 -269,77 -279,97
18 2894 904 27506 6,64 -263,13 -273,93
19 2757 861 26196 6,33 -256,80 -268,20
20 2625 820 24949 6,03 -250,78 -262,78
21 2500 781 23761 5,74 -245,04 -257,64
22 2381 744 22629 5,46 -239,57 -252,77
23 2268 709 21551 5,20 -234,37 -248,17
24 2160 675 20525 4,96 -229,41 -243,81
25 2057 643 19548 4,72 -224,69 -239,69
26 1959 612 18617 4,50 -220,19 -235,79
27 1866 583 17730 4,28 -215,91 -232,11
28 1777 555 16886 4,08 -211,83 -228,63
29 1692 529 16082 3,88 -207,95 -225,35
30 1612 504 15316 3,70 -204,25 -222,25
31 1535 480 14587 3,52 -200,73 -219,33
32 1462 457 13892 3,35 -197,37 -216,57
33 1392 435 13231 3,20 -194,18 -213,98
34 1326 414 12601 3,04 -191,14 -211,54
35 1263 395 12001 2,90 -188,24 -209,24
36 1203 376 11429 2,76 -185,48 -207,08
37 1145 358 10885 2,63 -182,85 -205,05
38 1091 341 10367 2,50 -180,34 -203,14
39 1039 325 9873 2,38 -177,96 -201,36
40 989 309 9403 2,27 -175,69 -199,69
41 942 294 8955 2,16 -173,53 -198,13
42 897 280 8529 2,06 -171,47 -196,67
43 855 267 8123 1,96 -169,51 -195,31
44 814 254 7736 1,87 -167,64 -194,04
45 775 242 7367 1,78 -165,86 -192,86
46 738 231 7017 1,69 -164,16 -191,76
47 703 220 6682 1,61 -162,55 -190,75
48 670 209 6364 1,54 -161,01 -189,81
49 638 199 6061 1,46 -159,55 -188,95
50 607 190 5773 1,39 -158,16 -188,16
51 579 181 5498 1,33 -156,83 -187,43
52 551 172 5236 1,26 -155,56 -186,76
53 525 164 4987 1,20 -154,36 -186,16
54 500 156 4749 1,15 -153,21 -185,61
55 476 149 4523 1,09 -152,12 -185,12
56 453 142 4308 1,04 -151,08 -184,68
57 432 135 4102 0,99 -150,09 -184,29
58 411 128 3907 0,94 -149,14 -183,94
59 392 122 3721 0,90 -148,25 -183,65
60 373 117 3544 0,86 -147,39 -183,39

For Price = 0,00000210

|Month|Block |Per Day|Per Month| $ Per|ROI for |ROI with 0,6$ per month
| |Reward| | | Month|11TB(450$)|HDD Electricity Only(12 watts)
1 6634 2073 63044 30,45 -419,55 -420,15
2 6318 1974 60042 29,00 -390,55 -391,75
3 6017 1880 57183 27,62 -362,93 -364,73
4 5731 1791 54460 26,30 -336,63 -339,03
5 5458 1706 51866 25,05 -311,58 -314,58
6 5198 1624 49396 23,86 -287,72 -291,32
7 4950 1547 47044 22,72 -264,99 -269,19
8 4715 1473 44804 21,64 -243,35 -248,15
9 4490 1403 42670 20,61 -222,74 -228,14
10 4276 1336 40639 19,63 -203,12 -209,12
11 4073 1273 38703 18,69 -184,42 -191,02
12 3879 1212 36860 17,80 -166,62 -173,82
13 3694 1154 35105 16,96 -149,66 -157,46
14 3518 1099 33433 16,15 -133,51 -141,91
15 3351 1047 31841 15,38 -118,14 -127,14
16 3191 997 30325 14,65 -103,49 -113,09
17 3039 950 28881 13,95 -89,54 -99,74
18 2894 904 27506 13,29 -76,25 -87,05
19 2757 861 26196 12,65 -63,60 -75,00
20 2625 820 24949 12,05 -51,55 -63,55
21 2500 781 23761 11,48 -40,07 -52,67
22 2381 744 22629 10,93 -29,14 -42,34
23 2268 709 21551 10,41 -18,73 -32,53
24 2160 675 20525 9,91 -8,82 -23,22
25 2057 643 19548 9,44 0,62 -14,38
26 1959 612 18617 8,99 9,61 -5,99
27 1866 583 17730 8,56 18,18 1,98
28 1777 555 16886 8,16 26,33 9,53
29 1692 529 16082 7,77 34,10 16,70
30 1612 504 15316 7,40 41,50 23,50
31 1535 480 14587 7,05 48,54 29,94
32 1462 457 13892 6,71 55,25 36,05
33 1392 435 13231 6,39 61,64 41,84
34 1326 414 12601 6,09 67,73 47,33
35 1263 395 12001 5,80 73,53 52,53
36 1203 376 11429 5,52 79,05 57,45
37 1145 358 10885 5,26 84,30 62,10
38 1091 341 10367 5,01 89,31 66,51
39 1039 325 9873 4,77 94,08 70,68
40 989 309 9403 4,54 98,62 74,62
41 942 294 8955 4,33 102,95 78,35
42 897 280 8529 4,12 107,07 81,87
43 855 267 8123 3,92 110,99 85,19
44 814 254 7736 3,74 114,73 88,33
45 775 242 7367 3,56 118,28 91,28
46 738 231 7017 3,39 121,67 94,07
47 703 220 6682 3,23 124,90 96,70
48 670 209 6364 3,07 127,97 99,17
49 638 199 6061 2,93 130,90 101,50
50 607 190 5773 2,79 133,69 103,69
51 579 181 5498 2,66 136,35 105,75
52 551 172 5236 2,53 138,87 107,67
53 525 164 4987 2,41 141,28 109,48
54 500 156 4749 2,29 143,58 111,18
55 476 149 4523 2,18 145,76 112,76
56 453 142 4308 2,08 147,84 114,24
57 432 135 4102 1,98 149,82 115,62
58 411 128 3907 1,89 151,71 116,91
59 392 122 3721 1,80 153,51 118,11
60 373 117 3544 1,71 155,22 119,22

Bizmark13

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I have a bunch of external hard drives and a bunch of laptops but most of them are USB 2.0. Only a few are USB 3.0 and only my newest laptop supports USB 3.0. Are USB 2.0 external hard drives not fast enough for mining BURST?

Grim

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Quote from: Blago on April 28, 2015, 12:15:54 PM

[miner]

new version Burst-miner v1.150509
https://github.com/Blagodarenko/miner-burst/releases/download/1.150509/miner-burst-1.150509.zip

- solved memory usage issue
- parameter "UseCleanMem" did not used
- key "q" - quit/exit
- key "m" - memory cleaner
- new lib pdcurses.dll

limits:
Nonces, stagger and CacheSize must be a multiple of HDD's sector size / 64 ( 4096 by default / 64 = 64 ).
Miner's window not resizing and not scrolling.

https://github.com/Blagodarenko/miner-burst

Tiny bug:

If you use the proxy feature, the host reports the total GB's incorrect if you have more than one satelite.
It is just a cosmetic issue though, because deadlines are accepted from every satelite.

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Quote from: callmejack on May 05, 2015, 04:37:46 PM

Quote from: mczarnek on May 05, 2015, 03:37:26 PM

Quote from: bubble83 on May 05, 2015, 02:30:36 PM

Quote from: mczarnek on May 04, 2015, 08:49:50 PM

I just realized something.. it is impossible to make a trustless pure Proof of Stake cryptocurrency.

Let's face it, you have to get the genesis block from someone and you have to trust that person to provide you with the correct genesis block.

If they provide you with a different genesis block then it's a different coin. It is trustless because every block after the genesis block is cryptographically verified.

So what if you call it a different coin? It's important for new clients to be able to trustlessly know they are on the correct blockchain. How can they do that in a Pure POS system? I guess it's possible in a peercoin like system.

you can do it if the transaction itself contains everything required to verify it is valid.
in other words this means there is no need for a blockchain recording everything from a genesis block over checkpoints onwards since the receiver can verify the transaction on its own.
if you would like to have a blockchain in such a design for storing non transaction related information you can add one.
maybe for something like aliases, storage, ATs or a message system.
the main difference to current coins would be that you dont have any history of other peoples transactions except for those you received coins with.

That would definitely help, you couldn't use someone else's transactions in your coin that had a new genesis block that have you lots of money but it still doesn't solve the problem of trustees knowing you have the correct genesis block and it isn't a blockchain full of garbage data.

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Quote from: mczarnek on May 05, 2015, 03:37:26 PM

Quote from: bubble83 on May 05, 2015, 02:30:36 PM

Quote from: mczarnek on May 04, 2015, 08:49:50 PM

I just realized something.. it is impossible to make a trustless pure Proof of Stake cryptocurrency.

Let's face it, you have to get the genesis block from someone and you have to trust that person to provide you with the correct genesis block.

If they provide you with a different genesis block then it's a different coin. It is trustless because every block after the genesis block is cryptographically verified.

So what if you call it a different coin? It's important for new clients to be able to trustlessly know they are on the correct blockchain. How can they do that in a Pure POS system? I guess it's possible in a peercoin like system.

you can do it if the transaction itself contains everything required to verify it is valid.
in other words this means there is no need for a blockchain recording everything from a genesis block over checkpoints onwards since the receiver can verify the transaction on its own.
if you would like to have a blockchain in such a design for storing non transaction related information you can add one.
maybe for something like aliases, storage, ATs or a message system.
the main difference to current coins would be that you dont have any history of other peoples transactions except for those you received coins with.

mczarnek

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Quote from: bubble83 on May 05, 2015, 02:30:36 PM

Quote from: mczarnek on May 04, 2015, 08:49:50 PM

I just realized something.. it is impossible to make a trustless pure Proof of Stake cryptocurrency.

Let's face it, you have to get the genesis block from someone and you have to trust that person to provide you with the correct genesis block.

If they provide you with a different genesis block then it's a different coin. It is trustless because every block after the genesis block is cryptographically verified.

So what if you call it a different coin? It's important for new clients to be able to trustlessly know they are on the correct blockchain. How can they do that in a Pure POS system? I guess it's possible in a peercoin like system.

Though even there it's a much cheaper 51% attack on the POW pay of the system, only to end up with the same issue. I guess that's why Ethereum is including a small POW for every transaction.. Though that doesn't really fix this specific issue either..

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Quote from: callmejack on May 05, 2015, 03:13:25 PM

Quote from: Kartojal on May 05, 2015, 02:11:49 PM

Quote from: Erkallys on May 05, 2015, 01:27:04 PM

I'd like to mine with a Raspberry Pi. So I'd like to know if it just possible. If you don't know how to reply to my question, maybe you can help me by replying to those ones : is it possible to mine on Linux with plots plotted on Windows and is the Pi's CPU as powerful as needed ?

You need SATA2/3 or USB 3.0 for mining BURST. USB 2.0 its too slow for reading(mine) the plots! Check another ARM board with USB 3.0 or SATA port, the cheapest i think is Banana Pi with one SATA. I recommend for mining in linux use their filesystem (ext3 or ext4) not NTFS (Windows) because gnu/linux programs dont like the NTFS system, it will be more slow and its probable to corrupt the plots or have any strange errors...

You can always use a LIVE CD like Ubuntu 14.04, download the plotter, and plot to external devices formatted in EXT4, then connect it to the ARM board

the pi2 may have better cpu performance than the banana pi which i estimated to be able to mine with 8tb within blocktime (tested with 4tb on a sata port multiplier some time ago).

based on usb benchmarks i assume the pi2 should be able to read at 20-25 mb/s on usb2 (http://www.mikronauts.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-2-usb-hard-drive-and-adapter-tests/).

i am not sure if concurrent traffic on different disks decreases the overall performance dramatically.
if you can read at speeds of 10 mb/s from 2 disks (which is a really low estimate) you should be able to mine with at least 8tb within blocktime.

if you plan a small farm try some usb-c hubs as power supply for the pis (makes the wiring simpler).

the tricky part for windows people is the plotting process because windows cannot write xfs or other linux filesystems out of the box.
workarounds would be virtual machines with direct disk access and provide windows the device as network share.
this is a simple solution but requires some basic linux knowledge.

if you have your disks plotted and a system running its almost one of the most scalable and cheapest solutions.

The Banana Pi looks interesting. But if I go to internal HDD, I need to have a desktop. What is the component recommended (how much GB of RAM, how much thread on the CPU, CPU model) ?
About the disks does this one (http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00144841.html) is good ?

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Quote from: Kartojal on May 05, 2015, 02:11:49 PM

Quote from: Erkallys on May 05, 2015, 01:27:04 PM

I'd like to mine with a Raspberry Pi. So I'd like to know if it just possible. If you don't know how to reply to my question, maybe you can help me by replying to those ones : is it possible to mine on Linux with plots plotted on Windows and is the Pi's CPU as powerful as needed ?

You need SATA2/3 or USB 3.0 for mining BURST. USB 2.0 its too slow for reading(mine) the plots! Check another ARM board with USB 3.0 or SATA port, the cheapest i think is Banana Pi with one SATA. I recommend for mining in linux use their filesystem (ext3 or ext4) not NTFS (Windows) because gnu/linux programs dont like the NTFS system, it will be more slow and its probable to corrupt the plots or have any strange errors...

You can always use a LIVE CD like Ubuntu 14.04, download the plotter, and plot to external devices formatted in EXT4, then connect it to the ARM board

the pi2 may have better cpu performance than the banana pi which i estimated to be able to mine with 8tb within blocktime (tested with 4tb on a sata port multiplier some time ago).

based on usb benchmarks i assume the pi2 should be able to read at 20-25 mb/s on usb2 (http://www.mikronauts.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-2-usb-hard-drive-and-adapter-tests/).

i am not sure if concurrent traffic on different disks decreases the overall performance dramatically.
if you can read at speeds of 10 mb/s from 2 disks (which is a really low estimate) you should be able to mine with at least 8tb within blocktime.

if you plan a small farm try some usb-c hubs as power supply for the pis (makes the wiring simpler).

the tricky part for windows people is the plotting process because windows cannot write xfs or other linux filesystems out of the box.
workarounds would be virtual machines with direct disk access and provide windows the device as network share.
this is a simple solution but requires some basic linux knowledge.

if you have your disks plotted and a system running its almost one of the most scalable and cheapest solutions.

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Quote from: mczarnek on May 04, 2015, 08:49:50 PM

I just realized something.. it is impossible to make a trustless pure Proof of Stake cryptocurrency.

Let's face it, you have to get the genesis block from someone and you have to trust that person to provide you with the correct genesis block.

If they provide you with a different genesis block then it's a different coin. It is trustless because every block after the genesis block is cryptographically verified.

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Quote from: Erkallys on May 05, 2015, 01:27:04 PM

I'd like to mine with a Raspberry Pi. So I'd like to know if it just possible. If you don't know how to reply to my question, maybe you can help me by replying to those ones : is it possible to mine on Linux with plots plotted on Windows and is the Pi's CPU as powerful as needed ?

You need SATA2/3 or USB 3.0 for mining BURST. USB 2.0 its too slow for reading(mine) the plots! Check another ARM board with USB 3.0 or SATA port, the cheapest i think is Banana Pi with one SATA. I recommend for mining in linux use their filesystem (ext3 or ext4) not NTFS (Windows) because gnu/linux programs dont like the NTFS system, it will be more slow and its probable to corrupt the plots or have any strange errors...

You can always use a LIVE CD like Ubuntu 14.04, download the plotter, and plot to external devices formatted in EXT4, then connect it to the ARM board

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Quote from: bensam1231 on May 03, 2015, 03:02:53 AM

Quote from: bensam1231 on May 02, 2015, 03:10:38 PM

Quote from: pinballdude on May 01, 2015, 06:47:09 AM

Quote from: bensam1231 on May 01, 2015, 03:11:28 AM

Not sure if you guys remember when I mentioned not finding many blocks while solo vs pool mining. There is still something weird about solo mining. I've been mining on pools and mining solo off and on. Whenever I go solo, the amount of blocks I find is about 50-60% of what I'm supposed to. I'm not talking about what the pool pays me, rather the amount of blocks I find while on the pool. This isn't just luck, I've been mining for quite some time and have quite a few data points built up.

I'm not sure if it's just me, but mining solo decreases the number of blocks I find quite a bit. I'm not sure why or how.

when you are soloing, you are running the wallet yourself.

i think, when you are pool mining, the wallet is running on the pool server.

the big difference here is if your clock is off 10 or 20 or 30 seconds. That will loose you a lot of blocks.

check your computer clock to the second, if it is more than a few seconds off, install "NetTime" or a similar product, and have it update your clock often enough that you never get a time off more than a second or two.

both windows 7 and windows 10 have built in internet synchronization, but they sync too infrequently, and are pretty bad at handling congestion and servers that are down, to be of any use for keeping the time within needed bounds for burst mining.

Some pools favor certain total plot sizes. If you are mining at a pool that favors close to what total plot size you have, you might end up getting more burst than you would solo mining.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Obviously it's some sort of problem with the wallet. I've been using nettime for quite some time though, so it's not a time problem. It syncs every four hours.

I've also noticed when mining solo I get less 'Winner: no info yet' for the winner in the deadline compared to when I'm mining on the pool. There is some sort latency issue happening there that I'm not entirely sure where it's coming from and I think is what is messing up my blocks.

Switched back to a pool and immediately started finding blocks at regular intervals again. Really weird.

Yeah, I don't know what this is guys. I really could use some help with this. I've been mining for close to three months on burst and every time I try to solo mine I am unable to find nearly as many blocks as mining on a pool. I've tried hosting the wallet on multiple machines and it still does it. What's causing this to happen? This simply can't be luck. I mentioned this before and exactly the same behavior was happening back then.

I go solo and I find 50-60% of the amount of blocks I should. It's like my wallet doesn't submit deadlines right away or the chain doesn't see them. I already have all my clocks syncing every 4 hours.

Erkallys

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I'd like to mine with a Raspberry Pi. So I'd like to know if it just possible. If you don't know how to reply to my question, maybe you can help me by replying to those ones : is it possible to mine on Linux with plots plotted on Windows and is the Pi's CPU as powerful as needed ?

mczarnek

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I just realized something.. it is impossible to make a trustless pure Proof of Stake cryptocurrency.

Let's face it, you have to get the genesis block from someone and you have to trust that person to provide you with the correct genesis block.

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https://crowetic.com | https://qortal.org

Quote from: iscal on April 25, 2015, 12:21:54 AM

Quote from: mmmaybe on April 24, 2015, 07:00:49 PM

Quote from: crowetic on April 24, 2015, 05:44:18 PM

Quote from: iscal on April 24, 2015, 01:30:42 PM

Quote from: mmmaybe on April 24, 2015, 01:19:49 PM

Quote from: iscal on April 24, 2015, 12:42:01 PM

Quote from: mmmaybe on April 24, 2015, 08:34:52 AM

Quote from: crowetic on April 23, 2015, 11:33:19 PM

BOUNTY!

Pool UI development/designer! (You will have to ask catbref ((pool developer)) what you will need to know in order do do this, but I know CSS is a must!)

I will offer 150k BURST from my own wallet, 150k BURST from ByteEnterprises wallet, and 2500 shares of ByteEnt asset (pays dividends monthly based off mining and the pool fee from ninja pool. Represents 2.5% of Byte Enterprises as a company.)

This is a fairly large bounty because it will be a fairly large amount of work. You can also talk to the other people who work with me and ask them how fair I am when it comes to paying people. I may throw you an extra bonus because I feel you did something extraordinary! Come be part of the Byte Enterprises team!

Thank you!

I'll add 150K to this of my own money (and I'm not part of the Byte Enterprises team nor even mining at ninja).

Crowe, if you can, post this as a separate thread so you might attract people outside the BURST community.

(i'll be back soon)

+50k from me for your pool upgrade send me your account

Just making the quote correct

we are with you, bro!

PEOPLE SUPORT PR TEAM AND STOP DUMP TO BUY PIZZAS
+50 k from me to Crowetic for the fantastic job (when send me bounty account)
(sorry for my english i m SPARTAN......)

Bounty wallet address - BURST-CSPG-BPBU-R985-2YC33

Thank you all so much!

both my donations have been sent. http://burstcoin.eu/address/37539858111357614

Sent 150K, and I might consider mining there if the UI is decent Cheesy

+50K ....

This is still awaiting someone to jump on it... The funds are sitting there waiting, there's a decent amount there, and including assets in my company that will payout for a long time to come...

PLEASE HELP!

Merick

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Quote from: bobafett on May 04, 2015, 04:41:55 AM

Quote from: ashfaq on May 04, 2015, 02:46:44 AM

so we just need to connect an external HADR DRVIE through USB and the computer starts mining burstcoins ?i mean i am having some 1 TB used hard drives which i can use ....thanxxxx

read the guides: http://wiki.burstcoin.de/index.php?title=Guides

http://burstcoin.info/guides/

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