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hero member
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@halofirebtc
Gonna throw this out there guys...

Since CGA has such a small mining reward and it's not worth it to a lot of miners I was wondering what you guys thought about getting a multipool?

I feel like it might draw some miners away from mining the actual chain (which I'm not sure is a good thing) lowering the diff allowing miners that stick with it to be more profitable.  It would also add daily buy pressure to CGA. 

I think we found someone to do one for DIEM and I was thinking we might be able to strike a deal with the op for an extra coin.

No Promises yet but wanted to get a feel of what you guys thought.

Once the KNC titans are actually in the hands of customers, (shipped supposedly 9/23) then we may see a shift to cga from the small-time miners. I'd give it a week to feel out the hashrates. Otherwise, sure, why not!
legendary
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Thanks for the getpeerinfo. Deleted the whole blockchain and am resyncing. Hopefully it works now.
sr. member
Activity: 252
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Gonna throw this out there guys...

Since CGA has such a small mining reward and it's not worth it to a lot of miners I was wondering what you guys thought about getting a multipool?

I feel like it might draw some miners away from mining the actual chain (which I'm not sure is a good thing) lowering the diff allowing miners that stick with it to be more profitable.  It would also add daily buy pressure to CGA. 

I think we found someone to do one for DIEM and I was thinking we might be able to strike a deal with the op for an extra coin.

No Promises yet but wanted to get a feel of what you guys thought.
sr. member
Activity: 290
Merit: 250
CoinPayments
v2 was never intended to have the same algorithm or produce rewards in a formulaic relationship to difficulty other than as a seed to random number generation; v1's use of the floating point difficulty was part of why it had so many forking issues.

It should have used GetPoWHash() instead of GetBlockHash() though when calling GetBlockValue() (my fault on that), the PoW hash would have been the actual work/difficulty completed, but either way it was just a seed into the random number generator.

Hi!

Thanks for extending the coin swap, I almost lost 280 CGA.. Smiley But now they are safe in my v2 wallet.

I mined v2 for a while, and noticed that the payout scheme is different than v1.. I looked into the source:

Code:
int64 static GetBlockValue(int nHeight, int64 nFees, uint256 prevHash)
{
    if (nHeight <= 0 || prevHash == 0)
        return nFees;
       
    if (nHeight == 1)
        return 105000 * COIN; // Premine for coin swap

    CBigNum nMod = CBigNum(prevHash) % CBigNum(COIN);

    int64 nSubsidy = 0;
    if (nMod < COIN/4)
        nSubsidy = 1 * COIN;
    else
        nSubsidy = COIN - nMod.getint();
                       
    return nSubsidy + nFees;
}

Why does it use prevHash%COIN? OP says it should be difficulty%COIN.. prevHash makes it pretty much the same as "random" reward coins like dogecoin, the reward is not dependent on difficulty.

difficulty%COIN would also be different from v1, it would give always 1CGA reward if difficulty is below 381..  (scrypt diff is *65536 in reality)
newbie
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Hi!

Thanks for extending the coin swap, I almost lost 280 CGA.. Smiley But now they are safe in my v2 wallet.

I mined v2 for a while, and noticed that the payout scheme is different than v1.. I looked into the source:

Code:
int64 static GetBlockValue(int nHeight, int64 nFees, uint256 prevHash)
{
    if (nHeight <= 0 || prevHash == 0)
        return nFees;
       
    if (nHeight == 1)
        return 105000 * COIN; // Premine for coin swap

    CBigNum nMod = CBigNum(prevHash) % CBigNum(COIN);

    int64 nSubsidy = 0;
    if (nMod < COIN/4)
        nSubsidy = 1 * COIN;
    else
        nSubsidy = COIN - nMod.getint();
                       
    return nSubsidy + nFees;
}

Why does it use prevHash%COIN? OP says it should be difficulty%COIN.. prevHash makes it pretty much the same as "random" reward coins like dogecoin, the reward is not dependent on difficulty.

difficulty%COIN would also be different from v1, it would give always 1CGA reward if difficulty is below 381..  (scrypt diff is *65536 in reality)




sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
Spray and Pray


--SNIP QUOTES--


And for the buying pressure, we need a few things:
1: the swap to finish
2: PR campaign using 1 billion hex as well, can't solely rely on the game even though Noble went underground when UK made their law decisions -- which were being ratified last I knew.
3: if no game, CGA needs merchants and more "something" to draw attention.
4: Possibly a buy up campaign? maybe offer a sale for half price for some of the undestroyed V2 premine as a bonus to THOSE PEOPLE ONLY buying cga off the exchanges, proven with screenshots and wallet messages? (I'd still like to see ~2000 destroyed, reminder... haha Tongue) then we could use that BTC for some buy support or other services or whatever. This way adopters of CGA will get 1.5x the amount of CGA for the prices at exchanges. True, they could sell, but if we start gaining steam here in the forum and with innovation or services, then why can't CGA reach those awesome prices of 100k-130k satoshis or even half, dissuading those 1.5x investors from selling for a long time.

I'm telling you... if cga is around for 1 billionhex.... that will create the moonshot. and I don't ever say "to the moon..." but from my diablo 2 experiences with people buying items with FGS (the forum based currency for diablo2, not an actual crypto), then absolutely cga will skyrocket. It alllllll depends on what items are associated with/represented by CGA. Since CGA is so rare, I assume CGA would be used for the rarest items in the game. If people own actual CGA outside of the game, they could pay for the item in CGA and trade in forums!!! This is why the game is so crucial.


I was told by Noble that CGA would be used for large purchases (planets, moons and such) but that might of changed, I have not talked to him for sometime. I have been thinking of selling penrose triangles made of wood (sanded, stained, finished, and of different types of wood).


In case you didn't know:

The reason I stepped back from CGA (but was never really gone) is because I had a lot of life events going on at once. I lost the time I had sitting here on the computer (partially because when I created CGA I was unemployed and now I am not), I moved twice, was the "best man" at my brothers wedding (which I had to help set up Tongue), and now I am 100 miles from home laying down custom hardwood floors in the mountains. I am here still and (as promised to a few members) will be the last one here if CGA ever dies.

SO, In a few weeks I might start making those penrose triangles. I have one already, made out of pine that was "reclaimed" from an old tobacco barn somewhere in the midwest (USA). Once I start making these I will sell them for 1 CGA each regardless of price.


Hmm... planets and moons.... real estate, heh! That's cool! Now I could picture buying platinum mines on asteroids.... and the entire asteroid! See if you can get an update from "someone who isn't him"... haha..  Wink Wink

No worries about what you had to do, just glad you came back. Thanks again! You saved our investments and minings. Don't be insulted by how I refer to you "moving" in quotes like that, I just knew there had to be more to the story, that's all. Cheesy

Triangles are a cool thing, too. +1

Yes I have learned the ways of the forc..... forum and try to not to get angry or offended Tongue. It had been awhile and I am sure people were wondering, so I thought I would enlighten them so that the whispers would go away. Yes, I am still working with the new CGA devs. I am kinda here and there, a little bit here in BCT and a bit in IRC @freenode #CGAnomaly, but mostly I am at work swinging a hammer Tongue.

I am learning new languages in my spare time (mostly PHP and Python) and hope to bring forward an innovative new service for CGA. We will see how much time I can squeeze. Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
@halofirebtc


--SNIP QUOTES--


And for the buying pressure, we need a few things:
1: the swap to finish
2: PR campaign using 1 billion hex as well, can't solely rely on the game even though Noble went underground when UK made their law decisions -- which were being ratified last I knew.
3: if no game, CGA needs merchants and more "something" to draw attention.
4: Possibly a buy up campaign? maybe offer a sale for half price for some of the undestroyed V2 premine as a bonus to THOSE PEOPLE ONLY buying cga off the exchanges, proven with screenshots and wallet messages? (I'd still like to see ~2000 destroyed, reminder... haha Tongue) then we could use that BTC for some buy support or other services or whatever. This way adopters of CGA will get 1.5x the amount of CGA for the prices at exchanges. True, they could sell, but if we start gaining steam here in the forum and with innovation or services, then why can't CGA reach those awesome prices of 100k-130k satoshis or even half, dissuading those 1.5x investors from selling for a long time.

I'm telling you... if cga is around for 1 billionhex.... that will create the moonshot. and I don't ever say "to the moon..." but from my diablo 2 experiences with people buying items with FGS (the forum based currency for diablo2, not an actual crypto), then absolutely cga will skyrocket. It alllllll depends on what items are associated with/represented by CGA. Since CGA is so rare, I assume CGA would be used for the rarest items in the game. If people own actual CGA outside of the game, they could pay for the item in CGA and trade in forums!!! This is why the game is so crucial.


I was told by Noble that CGA would be used for large purchases (planets, moons and such) but that might of changed, I have not talked to him for sometime. I have been thinking of selling penrose triangles made of wood (sanded, stained, finished, and of different types of wood).


In case you didn't know:

The reason I stepped back from CGA (but was never really gone) is because I had a lot of life events going on at once. I lost the time I had sitting here on the computer (partially because when I created CGA I was unemployed and now I am not), I moved twice, was the "best man" at my brothers wedding (which I had to help set up Tongue), and now I am 100 miles from home laying down custom hardwood floors in the mountains. I am here still and (as promised to a few members) will be the last one here if CGA ever dies.

SO, In a few weeks I might start making those penrose triangles. I have one already, made out of pine that was "reclaimed" from an old tobacco barn somewhere in the midwest (USA). Once I start making these I will sell them for 1 CGA each regardless of price.


Hmm... planets and moons.... real estate, heh! That's cool! Now I could picture buying platinum mines on asteroids.... and the entire asteroid! See if you can get an update from "someone who isn't him"... haha..  Wink Wink

No worries about what you had to do, just glad you came back. Thanks again! You saved our investments and minings. Don't be insulted by how I refer to you "moving" in quotes like that, I just knew there had to be more to the story, that's all. Cheesy

Triangles are a cool thing, too. +1
sr. member
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Spray and Pray
the basic problem with this coin is that is generates so little on a daily basis in terms of value... perhaps $30 USD

now you take a look at Viacoin which generates about $2,304 per days in terms of value.

now I take a look at my personal hashing power and it would be rediculous for me to mine this coin and make about $15/day when I could mine Viacoin and make about $50/day

face it guys - the people with GPU's are mining X11 coins that pay much higher.

You should have made the block reward about 10 to 20 coins and attracted the asic miners because the GPU guys are not going to mine his coin any longer.

who care if you're not going to run out of coins for 1,000 years or something - none of us will be around anyway.

just my humble .02


We are hurting in regards to price, yes.
Mined coins runs out in "x" amount of years, yes.
This coin is ultra-rare (~106k CGA mined over last 7 months), and once the swap is over, things will turn around, especially when 1billionhex comes out. 1billionhex is the main reason cga held its price of .001 back in June. Then the dev "moved". At least CGA is still listed on polo through all of this. CGA would have been done months ago if not for honeybadger and more recently the Diem devs.

We have to finish the swap first before we can think about moving forward. Now is the time for brainstorming, if anything.

Raising the reward doesn't do anything for us except securing the low prices we have now and possibly lowering the price further. Miners dump. it's a fact, they want profit now and not long-term thinking. Raising the price will help us, and to do that, we need 1billionhex updates, or other services.


I just think you guys went about the whole 'rare' thing the wrong way. 42 got it right the way they did it...

no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now - everyone is short sighted and want something they things has value - even if they choose not to sell it. I think you'd be surprised at the increase in activity if you raised the reward to 10 or 20.


"no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now" -- It provides sustainability for mining versus just mining for TX fees.  

I'm with halofire the point of these revivals is to bring sustained value within all of our coins. That being said rare coins have alwasy had their value. But we do need to create a buying pressure or need for this coin besides profits it self.

And for the buying pressure, we need a few things:
1: the swap to finish
2: PR campaign using 1 billion hex as well, can't solely rely on the game even though Noble went underground when UK made their law decisions -- which were being ratified last I knew.
3: if no game, CGA needs merchants and more "something" to draw attention.
4: Possibly a buy up campaign? maybe offer a sale for half price for some of the undestroyed V2 premine as a bonus to THOSE PEOPLE ONLY buying cga off the exchanges, proven with screenshots and wallet messages? (I'd still like to see ~2000 destroyed, reminder... haha Tongue) then we could use that BTC for some buy support or other services or whatever. This way adopters of CGA will get 1.5x the amount of CGA for the prices at exchanges. True, they could sell, but if we start gaining steam here in the forum and with innovation or services, then why can't CGA reach those awesome prices of 100k-130k satoshis or even half, dissuading those 1.5x investors from selling for a long time.

I'm telling you... if cga is around for 1 billionhex.... that will create the moonshot. and I don't ever say "to the moon..." but from my diablo 2 experiences with people buying items with FGS (the forum based currency for diablo2, not an actual crypto), then absolutely cga will skyrocket. It alllllll depends on what items are associated with/represented by CGA. Since CGA is so rare, I assume CGA would be used for the rarest items in the game. If people own actual CGA outside of the game, they could pay for the item in CGA and trade in forums!!! This is why the game is so crucial.


I was told by Noble that CGA would be used for large purchases (planets, moons and such) but that might of changed, I have not talked to him for sometime. I have been thinking of selling penrose triangles made of wood (sanded, stained, finished, and of different types of wood).


In case you didn't know:

The reason I stepped back from CGA (but was never really gone) is because I had a lot of life events going on at once. I lost the time I had sitting here on the computer (partially because when I created CGA I was unemployed and now I am not), I moved twice, was the "best man" at my brothers wedding (which I had to help set up Tongue), and now I am 100 miles from home laying down custom hardwood floors in the mountains. I am here still and (as promised to a few members) will be the last one here if CGA ever dies.

SO, In a few weeks I might start making those penrose triangles. I have one already, made out of pine that was "reclaimed" from an old tobacco barn somewhere in the midwest (USA). Once I start making these I will sell them for 1 CGA each regardless of price.
hero member
Activity: 938
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@halofirebtc
the basic problem with this coin is that is generates so little on a daily basis in terms of value... perhaps $30 USD

now you take a look at Viacoin which generates about $2,304 per days in terms of value.

now I take a look at my personal hashing power and it would be rediculous for me to mine this coin and make about $15/day when I could mine Viacoin and make about $50/day

face it guys - the people with GPU's are mining X11 coins that pay much higher.

You should have made the block reward about 10 to 20 coins and attracted the asic miners because the GPU guys are not going to mine his coin any longer.

who care if you're not going to run out of coins for 1,000 years or something - none of us will be around anyway.

just my humble .02


We are hurting in regards to price, yes.
Mined coins runs out in "x" amount of years, yes.
This coin is ultra-rare (~106k CGA mined over last 7 months), and once the swap is over, things will turn around, especially when 1billionhex comes out. 1billionhex is the main reason cga held its price of .001 back in June. Then the dev "moved". At least CGA is still listed on polo through all of this. CGA would have been done months ago if not for honeybadger and more recently the Diem devs.

We have to finish the swap first before we can think about moving forward. Now is the time for brainstorming, if anything.

Raising the reward doesn't do anything for us except securing the low prices we have now and possibly lowering the price further. Miners dump. it's a fact, they want profit now and not long-term thinking. Raising the price will help us, and to do that, we need 1billionhex updates, or other services.


I just think you guys went about the whole 'rare' thing the wrong way. 42 got it right the way they did it...

no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now - everyone is short sighted and want something they things has value - even if they choose not to sell it. I think you'd be surprised at the increase in activity if you raised the reward to 10 or 20.


"no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now" -- It provides sustainability for mining versus just mining for TX fees.  

I'm with halofire the point of these revivals is to bring sustained value within all of our coins. That being said rare coins have alwasy had their value. But we do need to create a buying pressure or need for this coin besides profits it self.

And for the buying pressure, we need a few things:
1: the swap to finish
2: PR campaign using 1 billion hex as well, can't solely rely on the game even though Noble went underground when UK made their law decisions -- which were being ratified last I knew.
3: if no game, CGA needs merchants and more "something" to draw attention.
4: Possibly a buy up campaign? maybe offer a sale for half price for some of the undestroyed V2 premine as a bonus to THOSE PEOPLE ONLY buying cga off the exchanges, proven with screenshots and wallet messages? (I'd still like to see ~2000 destroyed, reminder... haha Tongue) then we could use that BTC for some buy support or other services or whatever. This way adopters of CGA will get 1.5x the amount of CGA for the prices at exchanges. True, they could sell, but if we start gaining steam here in the forum and with innovation or services, then why can't CGA reach those awesome prices of 100k-130k satoshis or even half, dissuading those 1.5x investors from selling for a long time.

I'm telling you... if cga is around for 1 billionhex.... that will create the moonshot. and I don't ever say "to the moon..." but from my diablo 2 experiences with people buying items with FGS (the forum based currency for diablo2, not an actual crypto), then absolutely cga will skyrocket. It alllllll depends on what items are associated with/represented by CGA. Since CGA is so rare, I assume CGA would be used for the rarest items in the game. If people own actual CGA outside of the game, they could pay for the item in CGA and trade in forums!!! This is why the game is so crucial.
sr. member
Activity: 322
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the basic problem with this coin is that is generates so little on a daily basis in terms of value... perhaps $30 USD

now you take a look at Viacoin which generates about $2,304 per days in terms of value.

now I take a look at my personal hashing power and it would be rediculous for me to mine this coin and make about $15/day when I could mine Viacoin and make about $50/day

face it guys - the people with GPU's are mining X11 coins that pay much higher.

You should have made the block reward about 10 to 20 coins and attracted the asic miners because the GPU guys are not going to mine his coin any longer.

who care if you're not going to run out of coins for 1,000 years or something - none of us will be around anyway.

just my humble .02


We are hurting in regards to price, yes.
Mined coins runs out in "x" amount of years, yes.
This coin is ultra-rare (~106k CGA mined over last 7 months), and once the swap is over, things will turn around, especially when 1billionhex comes out. 1billionhex is the main reason cga held its price of .001 back in June. Then the dev "moved". At least CGA is still listed on polo through all of this. CGA would have been done months ago if not for honeybadger and more recently the Diem devs.

We have to finish the swap first before we can think about moving forward. Now is the time for brainstorming, if anything.

Raising the reward doesn't do anything for us except securing the low prices we have now and possibly lowering the price further. Miners dump. it's a fact, they want profit now and not long-term thinking. Raising the price will help us, and to do that, we need 1billionhex updates, or other services.


I just think you guys went about the whole 'rare' thing the wrong way. 42 got it right the way they did it...

no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now - everyone is short sighted and want something they things has value - even if they choose not to sell it. I think you'd be surprised at the increase in activity if you raised the reward to 10 or 20.


"no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now" -- It provides sustainability for mining versus just mining for TX fees. 

I'm with halofire the point of these revivals is to bring sustained value within all of our coins. That being said rare coins have alwasy had their value. But we do need to create a buying pressure or need for this coin besides profits it self.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
the basic problem with this coin is that is generates so little on a daily basis in terms of value... perhaps $30 USD

now you take a look at Viacoin which generates about $2,304 per days in terms of value.

now I take a look at my personal hashing power and it would be rediculous for me to mine this coin and make about $15/day when I could mine Viacoin and make about $50/day

face it guys - the people with GPU's are mining X11 coins that pay much higher.

You should have made the block reward about 10 to 20 coins and attracted the asic miners because the GPU guys are not going to mine his coin any longer.

who care if you're not going to run out of coins for 1,000 years or something - none of us will be around anyway.

just my humble .02


We are hurting in regards to price, yes.
Mined coins runs out in "x" amount of years, yes.
This coin is ultra-rare (~106k CGA mined over last 7 months), and once the swap is over, things will turn around, especially when 1billionhex comes out. 1billionhex is the main reason cga held its price of .001 back in June. Then the dev "moved". At least CGA is still listed on polo through all of this. CGA would have been done months ago if not for honeybadger and more recently the Diem devs.

We have to finish the swap first before we can think about moving forward. Now is the time for brainstorming, if anything.

Raising the reward doesn't do anything for us except securing the low prices we have now and possibly lowering the price further. Miners dump. it's a fact, they want profit now and not long-term thinking. Raising the price will help us, and to do that, we need 1billionhex updates, or other services.


I just think you guys went about the whole 'rare' thing the wrong way. 42 got it right the way they did it...

no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now - everyone is short sighted and want something they things has value - even if they choose not to sell it. I think you'd be surprised at the increase in activity if you raised the reward to 10 or 20.


"no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now" -- It provides sustainability for mining versus just mining for TX fees. 

if you did a pool I believe that over 90% of the people on here could care less about sustainability
It's an unfortunate but true fact for the most part.  That's why someone has to care about sustainability if Crypto is going to go anywhere.
hero member
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@halofirebtc
Sadly, we are a "throw away" society. I started a poll in NLG about a sustainabilty solution for all finite producing coins, it's pretty neutral.

link to my topic:https://forum.guldencoin.com/index.php?topic=521.msg4182

poll results:

Yes
    5 (27.8%)
No
    7 (38.9%)
Not sure/undecided
    6 (33.3%)
sr. member
Activity: 266
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the basic problem with this coin is that is generates so little on a daily basis in terms of value... perhaps $30 USD

now you take a look at Viacoin which generates about $2,304 per days in terms of value.

now I take a look at my personal hashing power and it would be rediculous for me to mine this coin and make about $15/day when I could mine Viacoin and make about $50/day

face it guys - the people with GPU's are mining X11 coins that pay much higher.

You should have made the block reward about 10 to 20 coins and attracted the asic miners because the GPU guys are not going to mine his coin any longer.

who care if you're not going to run out of coins for 1,000 years or something - none of us will be around anyway.

just my humble .02


We are hurting in regards to price, yes.
Mined coins runs out in "x" amount of years, yes.
This coin is ultra-rare (~106k CGA mined over last 7 months), and once the swap is over, things will turn around, especially when 1billionhex comes out. 1billionhex is the main reason cga held its price of .001 back in June. Then the dev "moved". At least CGA is still listed on polo through all of this. CGA would have been done months ago if not for honeybadger and more recently the Diem devs.

We have to finish the swap first before we can think about moving forward. Now is the time for brainstorming, if anything.

Raising the reward doesn't do anything for us except securing the low prices we have now and possibly lowering the price further. Miners dump. it's a fact, they want profit now and not long-term thinking. Raising the price will help us, and to do that, we need 1billionhex updates, or other services.


I just think you guys went about the whole 'rare' thing the wrong way. 42 got it right the way they did it...

no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now - everyone is short sighted and want something they things has value - even if they choose not to sell it. I think you'd be surprised at the increase in activity if you raised the reward to 10 or 20.


"no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now" -- It provides sustainability for mining versus just mining for TX fees. 

if you did a pool I believe that over 90% of the people on here could care less about sustainability
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I would comment but I think HaloFire hit the nail on the head. 

And 42 coin to too rare.  It will never amount to anything because its useless with so few coins.
hero member
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@halofirebtc
the basic problem with this coin is that is generates so little on a daily basis in terms of value... perhaps $30 USD

now you take a look at Viacoin which generates about $2,304 per days in terms of value.

now I take a look at my personal hashing power and it would be rediculous for me to mine this coin and make about $15/day when I could mine Viacoin and make about $50/day

face it guys - the people with GPU's are mining X11 coins that pay much higher.

You should have made the block reward about 10 to 20 coins and attracted the asic miners because the GPU guys are not going to mine his coin any longer.

who care if you're not going to run out of coins for 1,000 years or something - none of us will be around anyway.

just my humble .02


We are hurting in regards to price, yes.
Mined coins runs out in "x" amount of years, yes.
This coin is ultra-rare (~106k CGA mined over last 7 months), and once the swap is over, things will turn around, especially when 1billionhex comes out. 1billionhex is the main reason cga held its price of .001 back in June. Then the dev "moved". At least CGA is still listed on polo through all of this. CGA would have been done months ago if not for honeybadger and more recently the Diem devs.

We have to finish the swap first before we can think about moving forward. Now is the time for brainstorming, if anything.

Raising the reward doesn't do anything for us except securing the low prices we have now and possibly lowering the price further. Miners dump. it's a fact, they want profit now and not long-term thinking. Raising the price will help us, and to do that, we need 1billionhex updates, or other services.


I just think you guys went about the whole 'rare' thing the wrong way. 42 got it right the way they did it...

no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now - everyone is short sighted and want something they things has value - even if they choose not to sell it. I think you'd be surprised at the increase in activity if you raised the reward to 10 or 20.


"no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now" -- It provides sustainability for mining versus just mining for TX fees. 
sr. member
Activity: 266
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the basic problem with this coin is that is generates so little on a daily basis in terms of value... perhaps $30 USD

now you take a look at Viacoin which generates about $2,304 per days in terms of value.

now I take a look at my personal hashing power and it would be rediculous for me to mine this coin and make about $15/day when I could mine Viacoin and make about $50/day

face it guys - the people with GPU's are mining X11 coins that pay much higher.

You should have made the block reward about 10 to 20 coins and attracted the asic miners because the GPU guys are not going to mine his coin any longer.

who care if you're not going to run out of coins for 1,000 years or something - none of us will be around anyway.

just my humble .02


We are hurting in regards to price, yes.
Mined coins runs out in "x" amount of years, yes.
This coin is ultra-rare (~106k CGA mined over last 7 months), and once the swap is over, things will turn around, especially when 1billionhex comes out. 1billionhex is the main reason cga held its price of .001 back in June. Then the dev "moved". At least CGA is still listed on polo through all of this. CGA would have been done months ago if not for honeybadger and more recently the Diem devs.

We have to finish the swap first before we can think about moving forward. Now is the time for brainstorming, if anything.

Raising the reward doesn't do anything for us except securing the low prices we have now and possibly lowering the price further. Miners dump. it's a fact, they want profit now and not long-term thinking. Raising the price will help us, and to do that, we need 1billionhex updates, or other services.


I just think you guys went about the whole 'rare' thing the wrong way. 42 got it right the way they did it...

no one cares about if the coin will be around 100 years from now - everyone is short sighted and want something they things has value - even if they choose not to sell it. I think you'd be surprised at the increase in activity if you raised the reward to 10 or 20.
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People are currently swapping, I'm mining the chain.
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
@halofirebtc
the basic problem with this coin is that is generates so little on a daily basis in terms of value... perhaps $30 USD

now you take a look at Viacoin which generates about $2,304 per days in terms of value.

now I take a look at my personal hashing power and it would be rediculous for me to mine this coin and make about $15/day when I could mine Viacoin and make about $50/day

face it guys - the people with GPU's are mining X11 coins that pay much higher.

You should have made the block reward about 10 to 20 coins and attracted the asic miners because the GPU guys are not going to mine his coin any longer.

who care if you're not going to run out of coins for 1,000 years or something - none of us will be around anyway.

just my humble .02


We are hurting in regards to price, yes.
Mined coins runs out in "x" amount of years, yes.
This coin is ultra-rare (~106k CGA mined over last 7 months), and once the swap is over, things will turn around, especially when 1billionhex comes out. 1billionhex is the main reason cga held its price of .001 back in June. Then the dev "moved". At least CGA is still listed on polo through all of this. CGA would have been done months ago if not for honeybadger and more recently the Diem devs.

We have to finish the swap first before we can think about moving forward. Now is the time for brainstorming, if anything.

Raising the reward doesn't do anything for us except securing the low prices we have now and possibly lowering the price further. Miners dump. it's a fact, they want profit now and not long-term thinking. Raising the price will help us, and to do that, we need 1billionhex updates, or other services.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
the basic problem with this coin is that is generates so little on a daily basis in terms of value... perhaps $30 USD

now you take a look at Viacoin which generates about $2,304 per days in terms of value.

now I take a look at my personal hashing power and it would be rediculous for me to mine this coin and make about $15/day when I could mine Viacoin and make about $50/day

face it guys - the people with GPU's are mining X11 coins that pay much higher.

You should have made the block reward about 10 to 20 coins and attracted the asic miners because the GPU guys are not going to mine his coin any longer.

who care if you're not going to run out of coins for 1,000 years or something - none of us will be around anyway.

just my humble .02
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
@halofirebtc
Checked my twitter about the tweets I've been sending,
https://twitter.com/devnullius retweeted me https://twitter.com/HalofireBTC/status/515213774228582401

The pink-haired one has a reach of 17k followers so if that doesn't do the trick, so be it. Smiley
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