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What is the purpose of these insiders to to build their own site with btc nvst pairs? To sell their stacks for higher price. Thiss supposed to be done by the development team which got paid crazy amount for it,  it's their responsibility to deliver exchanges and dex. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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How much longer for CEX to really be released?
no ETA as usual but you can use https://btc2xcp.com  which is an nvst/btc pair on counterparty (12 word phrase from counterwallet will work)   that radiumsoup and I have been working on for the past month.


for the supporters of NVO: https://buy.nvo.party


We also own (to stop any confusion or phishing): http://xcp2btc.com and http://btctoxcp.com add the original  creator of the source will also be pointing http://btcpaymarket.com at our site.

thanks for the feedback.

I have no intention of selling my tokens now. I want to see and use the final product (CEX, DEX, Wallet).

Maybe invest more if the CEX is really good, and the next portfolio update leaves you with less problems.

So I'll be waiting for CEX and the next update to make a decision on the tokens I have.


Why would CEX affect investment decision?ROI is only based on DEX.
Not directly.

 Delivering a quality CEX will show that such quality can be reflected in the DEX. In addition to creating some liquidity in the token. That is an increase of credibility that is very low in my point of view. This talking on the absolute token price, I know we will not receive CEX fees.



Better idea would be roll out quality CEX like binance and then DEX afterwards sometime but give NVST holder share from both.This would be fair.Then they can use some of the initial crowd fund to build out CEX.WIN WIN Wink
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How much longer for CEX to really be released?
no ETA as usual but you can use https://btc2xcp.com  which is an nvst/btc pair on counterparty (12 word phrase from counterwallet will work)   that radiumsoup and I have been working on for the past month.


for the supporters of NVO: https://buy.nvo.party


We also own (to stop any confusion or phishing): http://xcp2btc.com and http://btctoxcp.com add the original  creator of the source will also be pointing http://btcpaymarket.com at our site.

thanks for the feedback.

I have no intention of selling my tokens now. I want to see and use the final product (CEX, DEX, Wallet).

Maybe invest more if the CEX is really good, and the next portfolio update leaves you with less problems.

So I'll be waiting for CEX and the next update to make a decision on the tokens I have.


Why would CEX affect investment decision?ROI is only based on DEX.
Not directly.

 Delivering a quality CEX will show that such quality can be reflected in the DEX. In addition to creating some liquidity in the token. That is an increase of credibility that is very low in my point of view. This talking on the absolute token price, I know we will not receive CEX fees.
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Altbone inc.Burial service for altcoins
How much longer for CEX to really be released?
no ETA as usual but you can use https://btc2xcp.com  which is an nvst/btc pair on counterparty (12 word phrase from counterwallet will work)   that radiumsoup and I have been working on for the past month.


for the supporters of NVO: https://buy.nvo.party


We also own (to stop any confusion or phishing): http://xcp2btc.com and http://btctoxcp.com add the original  creator of the source will also be pointing http://btcpaymarket.com at our site.

thanks for the feedback.

I have no intention of selling my tokens now. I want to see and use the final product (CEX, DEX, Wallet).

Maybe invest more if the CEX is really good, and the next portfolio update leaves you with less problems.

So I'll be waiting for CEX and the next update to make a decision on the tokens I have.


Why would CEX affect investment decision?ROI is only based on DEX.
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Activity: 77
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How much longer for CEX to really be released?
no ETA as usual but you can use https://btc2xcp.com  which is an nvst/btc pair on counterparty (12 word phrase from counterwallet will work)   that radiumsoup and I have been working on for the past month.


for the supporters of NVO: https://buy.nvo.party


We also own (to stop any confusion or phishing): http://xcp2btc.com and http://btctoxcp.com add the original  creator of the source will also be pointing http://btcpaymarket.com at our site.

thanks for the feedback.

I have no intention of selling my tokens now. I want to see and use the final product (CEX, DEX, Wallet).

Maybe invest more if the CEX is really good, and the next portfolio update leaves you with less problems.

So I'll be waiting for CEX and the next update to make a decision on the tokens I have.
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How much longer for CEX to really be released?

From what I gather it is just a paperwork/red tape issue now.  It is a big deal, people’s money's at stake and governments are not going to let an exchange materialize without proper vetting.
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How much longer for CEX to really be released?
no ETA as usual but you can use https://btc2xcp.com  which is an nvst/btc pair on counterparty (12 word phrase from counterwallet will work)   that radiumsoup and I have been working on for the past month.


for the supporters of NVO: https://buy.nvo.party


We also own (to stop any confusion or phishing): http://xcp2btc.com and http://btctoxcp.com add the original  creator of the source will also be pointing http://btcpaymarket.com at our site.
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How much longer for CEX to really be released?
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Another month is passing by, no Versus on the horizon.
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Hey everyone, i don't talk mutch but i'm following what is going on...

When i invested in nvo, i saw a great potential in this, i still do... the weight on the the shoulders of these guys.... man... reading what is said here is maybe one of the reason they ignore this forum and stay focussed on the task...  anyways...

Here's suggestion for the team, the escrows.... and all ico creators for that matter... 


When the ico took place, the cryptos that have bin accepted had a set value at that time... when you did setup the objectives, you where aiming to a set value for the project...  time pass and the values goes up and down while escrows keep an eye on these funds... 

In a bear market, i would consider normal the escrows would protect the funds by trading them for usdt or cash....  as well, in a clear bull market, they should keep these asset grow, keeping in mind the initial funding value, and keeping tabs of the growth...


So let say an ico is taking place at 0.10$/ token...
At that time.. 1 btc goes for 1500$....
At the end of a bull market like the one we had...  that mean that escrows could have protected 10 folds the projected value of the ico...   

Milestones get hit....  escrows are now to release parts of the funds...  in initial prevision, that milestone was supposed to release 100 000$ but now the escrows has 1 000 000$ in hands for the set amount of bet...  my opinion would be that the developper should have acces to the fund that they where forcasting for that milestone...  100k goes to them for the milestone, 900k stays in the escrow care.....

Then comes the end of the project, where all the funds are to be released....   along the road... all miles stone have bin paid to the developpers, ans the escrows have protescted a profit on the funds that had bin protected.... 

Usually that could be a moment for a bull run for the token and soon after a sell off...  but what if there is an incentive to prevent that..
.   
Project developper already keep a good part of the tokens that have bin released

Token holder will keep them if they know that over the next year or so, the escrows would now release the profits of those funds to them...   the project will grow because of that stability and the investors will actually make profits both from their initial investment and from the project growth....

Am i dreaming or that could become standard process in this new economic system we are creating?

In a perfect scenario that sounds great but you are asking escrows to be traders, what happens if they make a bad decision?  Not good.  The market is easy to play when looking backwards.  Plus this could provide a doorway for manipulation.
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Hey everyone, i don't talk mutch but i'm following what is going on...

When i invested in nvo, i saw a great potential in this, i still do... the weight on the the shoulders of these guys.... man... reading what is said here is maybe one of the reason they ignore this forum and stay focussed on the task...  anyways...

Here's suggestion for the team, the escrows.... and all ico creators for that matter... 


When the ico took place, the cryptos that have bin accepted had a set value at that time... when you did setup the objectives, you where aiming to a set value for the project...  time pass and the values goes up and down while escrows keep an eye on these funds... 

In a bear market, i would consider normal the escrows would protect the funds by trading them for usdt or cash....  as well, in a clear bull market, they should keep these asset grow, keeping in mind the initial funding value, and keeping tabs of the growth...


So let say an ico is taking place at 0.10$/ token...
At that time.. 1 btc goes for 1500$....
At the end of a bull market like the one we had...  that mean that escrows could have protected 10 folds the projected value of the ico...   

Milestones get hit....  escrows are now to release parts of the funds...  in initial prevision, that milestone was supposed to release 100 000$ but now the escrows has 1 000 000$ in hands for the set amount of bet...  my opinion would be that the developper should have acces to the fund that they where forcasting for that milestone...  100k goes to them for the milestone, 900k stays in the escrow care.....

Then comes the end of the project, where all the funds are to be released....   along the road... all miles stone have bin paid to the developpers, ans the escrows have protescted a profit on the funds that had bin protected.... 

Usually that could be a moment for a bull run for the token and soon after a sell off...  but what if there is an incentive to prevent that..
.   
Project developper already keep a good part of the tokens that have bin released

Token holder will keep them if they know that over the next year or so, the escrows would now release the profits of those funds to them...   the project will grow because of that stability and the investors will actually make profits both from their initial investment and from the project growth....

Am i dreaming or that could become standard process in this new economic system we are creating?
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Yes we are paid by NVO to keep the facade alive long enough for them to finish their grand exit strategy, along with the escrows who have decided to tarnish their names forever for a share of the crowdsale funds.  It’s obvious.  In fact, it’s really like oceans eleven and we have been planning this ever since early last year in Ton’s basement...
You aren’t going to catch us, there is nothing you can do as we have planned everything out to the ‘t’ including making it difficult to liquidate tokens.

Very funny, really. Even if it's not a joke. Law of jungles - those who weak and stupid will pay for it, isn't it? Grin Grin Grin

That's one possible approach however especially during end of last year they could get significant investment and boost their dev team like ten times which would lead to stronger product and faster development.  This year, there are many DEX projects and it will be much harder, especially for a small (in terms of capital and resources) project like NVO. I believe closest competition for NVO is Exodus wallet/exchange and it is already much bigger beast. I wish NVO the best (still holding few tokens) however it's hard to imagine they will succeed against current competition.

In addition to previous optimistic post from TSRW and countermissing, i must say next:
- deadline of DEX was moved three times from ICO start.
- useless wallet released  with half year delay (who will use it and for what?!)
- 60% of collected funds are released from escrow in 2017
- no any evidence of development and no public statements from team
- band of shills/trolls personally attacking any who shows doubts on NVO or mentioned other working DEXes.

That's what all they can do, troll and attack anyone who express objectivity and negativity towards the project, no real arguments whatsoever. Bitter individuals, they must be suppressed by their bosses/wives in real life. But hey, on the forums they think they are superior and anyone that opposes them is either a sheep or an idiot.
cooly you get attacked because you know the facts and sit here day in and day out  calling the project a scam, you do this with all projects you have invested into I can see this from your post history. you are a complete retard and seriously don't deserve to even have a computer.
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Yes we are paid by NVO to keep the facade alive long enough for them to finish their grand exit strategy, along with the escrows who have decided to tarnish their names forever for a share of the crowdsale funds.  It’s obvious.  In fact, it’s really like oceans eleven and we have been planning this ever since early last year in Ton’s basement...
You aren’t going to catch us, there is nothing you can do as we have planned everything out to the ‘t’ including making it difficult to liquidate tokens.

Very funny, really. Even if it's not a joke. Law of jungles - those who weak and stupid will pay for it, isn't it? Grin Grin Grin

That's one possible approach however especially during end of last year they could get significant investment and boost their dev team like ten times which would lead to stronger product and faster development.  This year, there are many DEX projects and it will be much harder, especially for a small (in terms of capital and resources) project like NVO. I believe closest competition for NVO is Exodus wallet/exchange and it is already much bigger beast. I wish NVO the best (still holding few tokens) however it's hard to imagine they will succeed against current competition.

In addition to previous optimistic post from TSRW and countermissing, i must say next:
- deadline of DEX was moved three times from ICO start.
- useless wallet released  with half year delay (who will use it and for what?!)
- 60% of collected funds are released from escrow in 2017
- no any evidence of development and no public statements from team
- band of shills/trolls personally attacking any who shows doubts on NVO or mentioned other working DEXes.

You are right the dex date has been moved 3 times now, they do not know the exact date of release and won't til its done.
they underestimated the ETA big time and they have admitted that along with apologizing to the community for the delay  this  is where you respectfully have the choice to sell  your NVST or not sell your NVST. sitting here making post about the project delays does nothing for anyone, everyone already knows the project is delayed  if you think its a scam then sell and move on no one is forcing anyone to hold their NVST  no one signed  contract or agreement to continue to hold NVST and if you are going to give some BS about the token price isn't where it should be  to sell then im sorry, but that is a personal issue. Know when  to cut a loss if you think its a loss.


as for the wallet  it has nothing to do with who will use it if its released   with a half year delay, because it  was already released    like 4 months ago, the V1.2 update (update being the keyword) is just the base platform for the dex.  which is what the other half of this project it about.

60% of funds from the escrow were released because  the milestones have  already been reached, also the milestones and release of funds have been the same since day one so this  is an irrelevant  point to argue aside from that all 4 of the escows have to agree a milestone is reached before releasing funds.

and there is evidence of the development, the wallet which can be downloaded here https://nvo.io/assets/  which runs on the new api cluster they built (milestone goal for funds)

band of shills? they defend the project because  the people like you choose not to recognize the facts (that literally are facts) and create a trolling sense of doubt because they (you0 believe  and want your opinion to be right.  

seriously you can not argue an opinion against a fact.
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Yes we are paid by NVO to keep the facade alive long enough for them to finish their grand exit strategy, along with the escrows who have decided to tarnish their names forever for a share of the crowdsale funds.  It’s obvious.  In fact, it’s really like oceans eleven and we have been planning this ever since early last year in Ton’s basement...
You aren’t going to catch us, there is nothing you can do as we have planned everything out to the ‘t’ including making it difficult to liquidate tokens.

Very funny, really. Even if it's not a joke. Law of jungles - those who weak and stupid will pay for it, isn't it? Grin Grin Grin

That's one possible approach however especially during end of last year they could get significant investment and boost their dev team like ten times which would lead to stronger product and faster development.  This year, there are many DEX projects and it will be much harder, especially for a small (in terms of capital and resources) project like NVO. I believe closest competition for NVO is Exodus wallet/exchange and it is already much bigger beast. I wish NVO the best (still holding few tokens) however it's hard to imagine they will succeed against current competition.

In addition to previous optimistic post from TSRW and countermissing, i must say next:
- deadline of DEX was moved three times from ICO start.
- useless wallet released  with half year delay (who will use it and for what?!)
- 60% of collected funds are released from escrow in 2017
- no any evidence of development and no public statements from team
- band of shills/trolls personally attacking any who shows doubts on NVO or mentioned other working DEXes.

Also, don’t forget that NVO is attempting something that no one else has done before.  A high speed cross-chain dex with plugin capability.  There is no step-by-step set of instructions for this.  They are in unchartered territory and if you think they will not encounter problems they must work around you are ignorant.  Add to this the original plan was to use the safenetwork.  Since being forced to abandon that plan they have had to come up with their own solution which naturally takes more time.  Many people understand this. 
It is my opinion that these guys took on this task knowing there were going to be a bunch of unknowns and roadblocks, but they have enough confidence in their abilities to be able to figure out a way to make it work.  I can relate as I have taken on remodeling projects where you always encounter issues that you have to come up with inventive solutions.
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can you list this on cryptobridge already? FFS
non tradeable piece of shit
it is tradable and actually I just got done building a btc/nvst (not for just NVST but for all counterparty assets) exchange  to make it less of a pain in the ass to sell or buy
https://btc2xcp.com


maybe you should quite your bitching brush up on the reason it is not listed on an exchange https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39686480
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Their idea is quite investing in my mind
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Yes we are paid by NVO to keep the facade alive long enough for them to finish their grand exit strategy, along with the escrows who have decided to tarnish their names forever for a share of the crowdsale funds.  It’s obvious.  In fact, it’s really like oceans eleven and we have been planning this ever since early last year in Ton’s basement...
You aren’t going to catch us, there is nothing you can do as we have planned everything out to the ‘t’ including making it difficult to liquidate tokens.

Very funny, really. Even if it's not a joke. Law of jungles - those who weak and stupid will pay for it, isn't it? Grin Grin Grin

That's one possible approach however especially during end of last year they could get significant investment and boost their dev team like ten times which would lead to stronger product and faster development.  This year, there are many DEX projects and it will be much harder, especially for a small (in terms of capital and resources) project like NVO. I believe closest competition for NVO is Exodus wallet/exchange and it is already much bigger beast. I wish NVO the best (still holding few tokens) however it's hard to imagine they will succeed against current competition.

In addition to previous optimistic post from TSRW and countermissing, i must say next:
- deadline of DEX was moved three times from ICO start.
- useless wallet released  with half year delay (who will use it and for what?!)
- 60% of collected funds are released from escrow in 2017
- no any evidence of development and no public statements from team
- band of shills/trolls personally attacking any who shows doubts on NVO or mentioned other working DEXes.

- deadline of DEX was moved three times from ICO start.

I don’t know if 3 times is entirely accurate, but nevertheless what does this mean?  It means they suck at projecting the time and t takes to build this.  It may may indicate a measure of incompetence but it may not, I cannot ascertain that just yet.  If you examine the complexity of what they are attempting it does seem logical it will take some time to get it done and get it done right.  Does it mean it’s a scam?  I don’t think so but if you do then so be it.


- useless wallet released  with half year delay (who will use it and for what?!)

Far from useless.  I have used it several times.  I am having no luck getting my Ripple out so there is a problem there.  Remember this is beta, you know what that means right.  This is why they are not marketing, because they want to get it right.  How many good ripple wallets do you know of?  Yeah that’s right not too many because Ripple is a pain in the ass.  As you can see from their last update they are working on it.  And again, if you examine the complexity and of this wallet maybe it provides understanding why delays and bugs.  This is not a simple wallet, and it has to have code to connect it to the dex as well as plugin system. 


- 60% of collected funds are released from escrow in 2017

So what is your point?  The escrow schedule has been posted from the very beginning.  They have completed the necessary milestones and have been rewarded.  If you have a problem with this you shouldn’t have invested in the first place. 


- no any evidence of development and no public statements from team

I can understand the concerns with evidence.  Not much I can say about that.  Being an active member of slack I understand things better than a casual person who drops in after a period of not paying attention.  But the team does releases statements, don’t know what you are talking about there.  They just released an update a few days ago and it was forwarded to here.  If you want to disregard what they are saying and believe they are just lying well that is your choice. 


- band of shills/trolls personally attacking any who shows doubts on NVO or mentioned other working DEXes.

Well man,  there have been plenty of people come in to various nvo media sites with honest intentions and questions and have been dealt with respect.  Then you have others.  Take prisoneroflies for instance.  This guy writes a long steemit post fudding NVO all in the name of civic duty and protecting others.  Well not only did most of his crap facts get debunked, but did you know he blackmailed the NVO team, asked them for a ransom to keep him from posting that.  So if he would have got paid he wouldn’t have “ protected” anybody.  And then old cool4y, he visits every NVO message board he can find with his endless list of alter ego names trolling.  Is that who you are referring to?  Or how about the guys that keep complaining that NVO isn’t on a good exchange even though it has been explained countless times why not. 

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Yes we are paid by NVO to keep the facade alive long enough for them to finish their grand exit strategy, along with the escrows who have decided to tarnish their names forever for a share of the crowdsale funds.  It’s obvious.  In fact, it’s really like oceans eleven and we have been planning this ever since early last year in Ton’s basement...
You aren’t going to catch us, there is nothing you can do as we have planned everything out to the ‘t’ including making it difficult to liquidate tokens.

Very funny, really. Even if it's not a joke. Law of jungles - those who weak and stupid will pay for it, isn't it? Grin Grin Grin

That's one possible approach however especially during end of last year they could get significant investment and boost their dev team like ten times which would lead to stronger product and faster development.  This year, there are many DEX projects and it will be much harder, especially for a small (in terms of capital and resources) project like NVO. I believe closest competition for NVO is Exodus wallet/exchange and it is already much bigger beast. I wish NVO the best (still holding few tokens) however it's hard to imagine they will succeed against current competition.

In addition to previous optimistic post from TSRW and countermissing, i must say next:
- deadline of DEX was moved three times from ICO start.
- useless wallet released  with half year delay (who will use it and for what?!)
- 60% of collected funds are released from escrow in 2017
- no any evidence of development and no public statements from team
- band of shills/trolls personally attacking any who shows doubts on NVO or mentioned other working DEXes.

That's what all they can do, troll and attack anyone who express objectivity and negativity towards the project, no real arguments whatsoever. Bitter individuals, they must be suppressed by their bosses/wives in real life. But hey, on the forums they think they are superior and anyone that opposes them is either a sheep or an idiot.
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can you list this on cryptobridge already? FFS
non tradeable piece of shit
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