Topic: [ANN][GSX] Glowshares: Community Driven Blockchain Development - page 21. (Read 90485 times)

Dragnar, can you please point me to your reputable source of information that so clearly shows NINETY NINE (99) percent of ipo/ico's on "bitturex" are a scam?

price is a bit high IMO, i might jump in the last hour, depending on the hype good luck

#2 on Bittrex after only half a day!

i wont call it a scam just yet
but its impossible to proof its a scam atm so yea

99% of the ipo,s / ico,s on bitturex are a scam * this is a fact *

so for this one to be a scam ( is highly likely * if u look @ the numbers * )  
* so u need to understand why they say this is one *
then again if peeps wanna trow away money and risk its up to them


ill give u a +1 tough on not pre generating the coins and then burning them
but the problem is u can still basically buy your own ipo for free ( u recieve the bitcoins u spend on buying it back any way ) and still have a huge premine to dump  

ill see how legit this coin is after release ( and then buy even @ inflated rate,s ) or not we will see

Exactly! Bitcoin uses the blockchain for financial consensus, which is just the first of many great use cases. I truly believe in the blockchain, everything it has to offer, and everything it can offer; even if it that potential is currently unrealized by most. I left the comfort of well paid, albeit soul-crushing corporate software jobs because I want to focus all of my time on this very important, yet simple piece of technology.

No one has been scammed here, thanks for providing such a well-thought out argument.

Oh wait, you didn't provide one at all. I'll be here, ready for a mature discussion whenever you are. All jokes aside, everyone knows the risks of an ICO by now. Are we simply labeling every crowdfunding effort a scam? What makes it any different than say, Kickstarter?

Another scam ico on bittrex

I add my scam ico list this shit https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/never-buy-ico-bytecent-eqx-sys-craig-vior-845494


https://twitter.com/Anti_Pump/status/532944126271324160

Voting on the block chain is massive.. Bitcoins beauty lies in the technology behind bitcoin (ie the blockchain) rather than the currency(btc).To add a method of voting onto the blockchain that is 100% honest is insane ...Very very smart idea with huge potential .SOLID

so you wont accept a tip from a newbie account but you will throw thousands of dollars to a newbie account's coin. seems legit.

ill be back to troll you when the dev leaves.

a tip coming from a newbie account. hm...

ill give you guys a tip. all ICO's with a newbie account and a "*insertcoinnamehereDEV" username, are quite simply scams.

Thanks for responding, I get it now. The fact that voting in the real world is/isn't flawed at core is irrelevant, that sequence of statements is just an overblown version of CrownCannabis' summary plus the fact that a record of votes cast is to be preserved in the blockchain.

Cheers

Graham

I like it, the voting system is like a meta-feature, a feature to decide future features

That's the whole point DarkLister. glowshares said the voting is simply the first innovation to allow all future projects to occur. You and I get to decide what those are This is our coin as much as the developer's.

This seems like a great idea but it does seem to be a little expensive.  Not many coins can survive that price for long without continual innovations.

In other words, humans are the primary point of failure. They can be desperate, bribed, blackmailed, in a weak emotional or mental state, or a variety of other circumstances. Closed source, centralized software & hardware requires a certain level of trust. In nearly every voting system, there is simply no transparency; someone, somewhere can change results and it would be very difficult to even realize it happened. Want to audit the results? Probably not going to happen. An open source, decentralized blockchain simply isn't vulnerable to any of that. Audit the results right on the block explorer. Curious about the protocols being followed? Github is open 24 hours a day.

Voting on the blockchain, from Glowshares perspective, is just a necessary first project that enables future projects. Following the decentralized, trustless vision originally conceived for the blockchain is the goal. Specifically, what will those innovations to the blockchain be? Community consensus through voting will decide. Nothing is set in stone yet, other than decentralized voting.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/16/1100628/-It-s-the-Voting-Machines-Not-the-Voters

http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/04/maryland-republicans-lookout-voting-machines-flip-democrat/

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/10/28/expert-confirms-voting-machines-in-illinois-and-maryland-rigged-for-democrats/

http://twitchy.com/2014/11/04/better-just-be-a-glitch-is-texas-voting-machine-leaving-greg-abbott-off-the-ballot-photo/

http://hamptonroads.com/2014/11/voting-irregularities-virginia-beach-newport-news

http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/wp/u-s-senator-chuck-hagel-now-admits-ownership-in-voting-company-ess/

http://indiaevm.org/

yeah, right
good luck addressing big red SCAM message spamming
some fudsters has no decency and they will not stop screaming big bold letters that this is a scam and dev gonna run with the money

I've separated out the key successive statements you make concerning the core feature. Unfortunately, each is loosely-phrased, is unsupported by facts or argument and thus fails to communicate much at all ...


I'll pick one (not entirely at random) and challenge you on it, just as a thought experiment ...

“Human nature is the weakest link, so we remove it from the equation”

Exactly how is “human nature” (whatever you think you mean by that term) the “weakest link” (whatever you think you mean by that term), and from which “equation” (whatever you think you mean by that term) is it to be removed?

The statement conveys no useful information about what you plan to do because it's constructed from undefined, informal terms which can mean whatever you want them to mean.

The same goes for the other three statements, they are all semantically vacuous.

I'm not questioning your integrity, I'm pointing out that you're not saying clearly whatever it is that you think you're saying.



It's difficult for me to see how it could be anything other than screamingly obvious to a businessperson such as yourself that you at least have to present a supporting case for your twin statements that i) voting in a real world scenario is “flawed to the core” and ii) that a blockchain-based implementation “fixes those fundamental flaws”.

As it stands...

The first claim can be trivially dismissed with: “Sez who? WTF do you know about it?” (hint, using the term “in a real world scenario” simply signposts the content as confected gibberish).

I can't in all conscience call the second statement a “claim” because, in the absence of support, it's simply a non-sequitur. There's a lot of work ahead of you in preparing an argument to support your claim that a blockchain-based solution actually does “fix” (whatever you think you mean by that term) the core flaws in real-world voting (whatever you think you mean by that term).

Cheers

Graham

I will address each and every concern swiftly, and with logic & professionalism. Trolls don't stand a chance here.

Far too often I see "trolls" shot down when it's actually a legitimate concern that should be discussed.

if you'll let everybody speak freely some people will just spam nonsense accusations and scam alerts which will significantly drop the price. I've seen it happen many times.