[ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure - page 48.

addicto

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Quote from: oapieNL on June 07, 2018, 04:04:32 PM

But still illegal tokens in circulation. Maybe the founders made this pump by buying everything before they came up with news. After all, they have earned enough money by selling tokens that needed to be burned, so they could now buy enough in this dip.

Maybe this was inside job it was surprising to see who pump this token even we are still into problem. I hope soon they will get succeed to find a solution for everyone who invested into this project and still into trouble because mentally retard team.

sockpuppet1911

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Quote from: Joona on June 07, 2018, 02:25:46 PM

For those who are not fluent in German...https://envion-founders.org/envions-ceo-matthias-woestmann-and-associates-lose-millions-of-investor-money-berlin-court-intervenes-and-grants-preliminary-injunction/

Thanks for linking that, but

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The owners of the two holding companies (Quadrat Capital GmbH and Sycamore GmbH), Matthias Woestmann, Thomas van Aubel, Jutta Freifrau von Falkenhausen, and Dinnies von der Osten, have a history of profiting from investments in companies that fail spectacularly and under suspicious circumstances. They and their associates are linked to a long list of companies involved in some of Germany’s largest financial scandals, including IGB, Balda (renamed to Clere), Q-cells, and Solon."

All i am saying is, They didn't even bothered to investigate the ceo for a 100M company before hiring him?

haer

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Quote from: wwzsocki on June 08, 2018, 06:58:19 AM

This is surprising to see such a price spike in the actual Envion situation with court cases and fraud committed by both sides founders and CEO.I was sure we will be looking at slow down movement to 0, not a spike 100% in one day. Who is buying this token? Everybody is saying that this tokens bought on the exchange are worth nothing. Am I missing something here?

Well the founder side posted good news for them, that will of course create a little price spike.
With the prices so very low, people like to gamble i guess.

If you have a 1000 usd to spare and like to gamble. Buying like 10000 envion tokens for 0.1 usd each would be an interesting gamble since if they ever start production and pay dividends, it would be a very good investment. But as i said, i gamble, since there will probably never be any production and dividends what so ever.

wwzsocki

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This is surprising to see such a price spike in the actual Envion situation with court cases and fraud committed by both sides founders and CEO.I was sure we will be looking at slow down movement to 0, not a spike 100% in one day. Who is buying this token? Everybody is saying that this tokens bought on the exchange are worth nothing. Am I missing something here?

vince212

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anyone here who bought using their credit card? did you receive your tokens already?

oneidentity

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We need clear laws in this area, and it will be practically impossible to prove anything. Every movement of investors must be confirmed with paper. I do not get tired of wondering how they managed to get in trust.

oapieNL

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But still illegal tokens in circulation. Maybe the founders made this pump by buying everything before they came up with news. After all, they have earned enough money by selling tokens that needed to be burned, so they could now buy enough in this dip.

pumz

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I also was surprised to see this quick increase which most probably was looking exit pump. Here I saw this shared article which tells next court schedule is 21st of this month. I have read in very carefully the whole material but still don't understand with what this can help to those who bought from exchanges. This still are not cleared that what the outcome can be from all this.

AlloM

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Quote from: Anthony1985 on June 07, 2018, 02:31:24 PM

Quote from: Joona on June 07, 2018, 02:25:46 PM

For those who are not fluent in German...https://envion-founders.org/envions-ceo-matthias-woestmann-and-associates-lose-millions-of-investor-money-berlin-court-intervenes-and-grants-preliminary-injunction/

This is a great news for all of us who invested on Envion! That's why it's up by 80 % today

Good for those who bought dip but early investors are still into big lose even after this 80% too. We need a solid solution and want to see price get stored to the ICO's than it will give real relief to all community.

Anthony1985

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Quote from: Joona on June 07, 2018, 02:25:46 PM

For those who are not fluent in German...https://envion-founders.org/envions-ceo-matthias-woestmann-and-associates-lose-millions-of-investor-money-berlin-court-intervenes-and-grants-preliminary-injunction/

This is a great news for all of us who invested on Envion! That's why it's up by 80 % today

Joona

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For those who are not fluent in German...https://envion-founders.org/envions-ceo-matthias-woestmann-and-associates-lose-millions-of-investor-money-berlin-court-intervenes-and-grants-preliminary-injunction/

Roidz92

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Here the ones that makes real money are the ones who act earlier than the mass. If the price pumps +60% in couple hours, surely it is not just a pump and dump Wink

Who wants to understand, understand Cheesy

Whales move earlier and then they sell to the masses and the normal people.

Daper

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LOL, ya'll fool dipshits, now crying about this project. The beginning pages of the thread, all you dumb pseudo experts babbling how it's a good project, has lots of potential, blah blah and now towards the end of the thread, 'oh its a fuckin' scam, it was all lies, dev team is nowhere to be seen' thread after thread, it is the same story for almost all coins.

Listen you fucktards, cryptos has no real future except as tools for speculative investment. That's it. If you think one day cryptos will replace current financial models, you need to go and jump into a river, world is already overflowing with dumbtards like you.

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Quote from: Foerster on June 07, 2018, 08:05:04 AM

Quote from: Anthony1985 on June 07, 2018, 07:53:02 AM

Does anyone know what's causing the price spike?

Court prohibits any further sale of shares and assets by the Envion's malicious CEO and his small entourage.
Seems like the founding members (who seemed to have been scammed by him as well) had success in court for now.

https://www.presseportal.de/pm/82125/3963759

The founders kept silent about the problems, in fact pretended to be building MMUs, while things went awry as soon as the ICO was finished. They are complicit. I still don't see a future for this 'company'.

Tuareg

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it is very unpleasant to watch this project as a liar. as a result of these judicial actions, only lawyers will win. and investors who spent their money on the tokens of this project can relax and watch the show from the side.

Daydream 61

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This is going to be a dirty fight. and the investors will be the losers. Next court date is on 21 June 2018 in Berlin. and then there will definitely be another 10 dates in the next few years Wink

ArthCoin

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the project was a Scam . I was banned in their telegrams channel for timing issues . They couldn't collect the capitalization . All operations are not transparent . it was a huge waste of time ...

dr.cheema

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Well now we can see the big pump in envion price even that i have not see any negative/positive news about envion.
Envion project right now in critical situation. Envion start an chat room on telegram EnvionFounders.
This project still have chance to stand up in near future but it will take some time and it's time to fill up bag with EVN at very cheap price.

Foerster

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Quote from: Anthony1985 on June 07, 2018, 07:53:02 AM

Does anyone know what's causing the price spike?

Court prohibits any further sale of shares and assets by the Envion's malicious CEO and his small entourage.
Seems like the founding members (who seemed to have been scammed by him as well) had success in court for now.

https://www.presseportal.de/pm/82125/3963759

torry28

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Quote from: Anthony1985 on June 07, 2018, 07:53:02 AM

Does anyone know what's causing the price spike?

Probably another pump from whales. I don't find any good news recently about envion.
Rather than that, is there any update with bounty distribution and KYC process?

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