Topic: [ANN][KARM] Karma / ₭ / X11 - page 110. (Read 583113 times)

Of course, I was looking for a response from the team (as that is what the message says) not the community.

I can accept the Karmacoin.me website, I can maintain it and do necessary improvements.

We only need to get other people for other services from kosmost.

where does it say anywhere in this statement.. "Kosmost's private logo and trademark design contest" ?

this is how the community deals with our problems. you by now should be familiar with it.

you're not the only one asking questions to them. East recently asked them to donate for API services. He was able to find some one who will do it much cheaper. x10 times cheaper. yet there are few coins sent. by your analogy then East should scrap it off and stop asking them to help.

this is is our community. accept it. They will not respond in timely matter. Now the LLC you can say you feared the SECs knocking on you doors but these other services. How much are they worth the wait?

Is there a website for Strength in Numbers Foundation?

We will, of course, need to verify legitimacy of entity and interest but this shouldn't be an issue.

Thank you for putting this offer forward. It is sincerely appreciated.

I'd like to know what servers have been rented and from whom in regards to the $500/month pricetag on lill.com

There is no way that there would be a need for a $500/month bill with the current user-base. In case it was really necessary who-ever built it did not have any clue about scaling horizontally or vertically.

We can rebuild a karma-search site if someone can provide the details on what it looked like etc.

Again my question, please provide some feedback on the server-setup so that we know that you have actually done that and not just put it on a $10 VPS (because it would not require much more currently).

I am talkiing to whoever people were part of the lill.com thing.

Also just a note: has the admin of /r/karmashares really made it a private subreddit? and what is the purpose of that?



Easteagle: I'll open the karma.explorer.altcoin.dk blockchain explorer up for the public if that is what is needed for us to move forward, i'll also host a blockchain using the current software that socoban kindly set up.

I will also host the seednode, extra wallets and whatever is needed for the infrastructure.

+1 to this post

+1 to your post before this

+1 to the other post of yours before it.

"Gift" from someone means you are ending ownership of something, so are "donations". Those terms were used for IPOCOS too and one of them is lill.com and other "shelved" projects.

Why must we continue to respond to child-like statements? Because there are some people that will believe what you are saying.

Again, your statements have no legal (or logical) basis.

"...you can see people have a lot of passion for it" (except for you.. everyone knows that by now)

"They cannot make a company and sell karmacoin shares or trademark or copyright Karmacoin." (yes, in fact we can. It's legal and it's what our community wanted. Everything will be done as we said and promised. There is nothing nefarious going on. We try to make everything as transparent as possible.)

If it was a scam do you really think I would be telling people on this forum and the subreddit and make statements like this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Karmacoin/comments/23n0m7/should_i_get_in_on_the_karma_train/cgyqxmd

Have you ever done a giveaway of tens of millions, perhaps over a hundred million of the coins you mined? I doubt it, because you dumped them all most likely. Your statements are amusing, if not sad.

Your brand of logic is quite mysterious.. and harmful. I believe you have gone mad. But what you are doing is not in the spirit of Karmacoin.

The coin moves on without you.

edit: OMG.. you are so funny.. You changed the Official website link in the subreddit to "iKarmacoin.com".. but you shut it down,  remember? Dude.. please stop before you hurt yourself.

do you want more proof that the Karma logo was created by and for the Karma (aka Karmacoin) community?
just because you lead an open source project does not mean you own the rights to it... everybody participated in the logo competition, donations were even collected for it.
the fact that you went and trademarked the logo under your own name and are now trying to sell it to someone else is an insult to the community...

even the name change from Karmacoin to Karma was a community decision.



where does it say anywhere in this statement.. "Kosmost's private logo and trademark design contest" ?

Apologies, but you really don't know what you're talking about in the above post. Perhaps another post will be more accurate.

You are completely mistaken when you write, "...open source logo and the logo itself was produced by community member"

Go there now: https://99designs.com/logo-design/contests/bitcoin-logo-design-next-dogecoin-karmacoin-362189

Here's how it will work:

1) Contest started*
2) For the next 4 days, entries will be accepted from all designers
3) After that, several designs/designers will be selected for the final round
4) Final round lasts 3 days. This is when we approach the winning design. I will open up voting to the public (maximum of 8 designs that the public can vote on)
5) Winner chosen

The winning design of the contest does not mean that we will use this design for the Karmacoin logo. The contest is created to get a variety of logo ideas from different designers and bring us much closer to the final logo design. We will then need to survey potential future members/user of Karmacoin to get their feedback on all of our designs (those from the contest and those from the community). This will help us to weed out the weakest concepts. This way we can narrow down all of our designs to 2 or 3 good ones and then decide on the one that we will use. Hopefully, the survey results will indicate to us which designs our target market finds attractive and memorable, and which convey our intended message and best captures the personality of Karmacoin.

*If you'd like to donate to help cover the costs of this contest ($299 for 7 days; guaranteed to be a winner to attract more entries) you can send Karma to KBuE7G9Xf2JUgeUKPk6MkPkLNL6zXyznxz
Thanks!

Apologies, but you really don't know what you're talking about in the above post. Perhaps another post will be more accurate.

You are completely mistaken when you write, "...open source logo and the logo itself was produced by community member"

On March 17th I will announce 20 BTCs worth of bounties.

Whoa... 20 BTCs?
Yes, that's right. But we need your help  

I personally with be donating about 5.5 BTCs for bounties. I will ask for the community's help funding the remainder. You can either 1) sponsor a bounty in your own name and I will add you to the post on Reddit; or 2) we'll find a way to aggregate your contribution with others.

If #1 is your option then you can choose to offer KARM or BTC.

Why are we doing this?
One of the strongest ideas of Karmacoin, I think, is the ability to provide incentive for people to do go and reward those who have done something good.

But before we get there, we need to provide our own incentives. We need Karmacoin services right now. What better way to find out how our own system will work than to use something like it in our development to foster a sense of community and to get things done at the same time?

Here is a partial list of projects for which bounties can be offered:

• YouTube/Google+ tipbot
• web wallet for the casual user
• QT wallet UI redesign
• QT wallet programming to incorporate redesign
• online wallet generator
• web donation widget for any website
• functional android wallet
• subreddit header with dynamic price and volume, like Vertcoin or Potcoin
• start 1-page Wiki of at least 500 words on the subreddit
• a good game

Bounties will only be paid upon the successful completion of the project. This means whoever finishes it first gets the bounty. Each task is worth something different. Some may have a small bounty (like the 1-page wiki), just to get it started and done quickly so that people know we're serious.

What do you need from me now?
Just your ideas. Then on March 17th you can start donating for the bounties or sponsoring a bounty of your own. I'll post the same to the r/karmacoinproject thread so those that have access to it can help to spec out some of the requirements for tasks.

Why BTC and not Karmacoin?
If we offer BTC then we're opening up the contest to everyone. Many developers don't want to work for a coin for only payment in that coin.  Having the prize in BTC opens up the contest to more claimaints and provides a seemingly predictable bounty value.

It's too much!
Let's think about this from an economic perspective. Let's say you really believe in Karmacoin and have accumulated about 1 BTC's worth of it over the past few weeks. You can sit and watch it hover somewhere under 5 satoshis for a while, if we don't continue developing Karmacoin. But, if you add, say 0.1 BTC to the bounties and we end up with enough to do lots of great things your coins will be worth a whole lot more.

If we do the above for ~20 BTCs, the value of your coins could increase 10-20x over the next 2 months because Karmacoin is becoming tremendously awesome and useful. Your 0.1 BTC donation has helped to increase the value of your coins, now worth 10-20 BTC each. A good investment, indeed.

Think about it for a few days and then you'll know how much to donate/sponsor.

Why don't we get community talent to do it?
When people have incentive to do something then it is done with greater attention, and much faster than if they had only recognition for their work. It would be better if that wasn't the world we live in but I suppose we've been conditioned that way. We all need a little push sometimes. Even developed coin communities have trouble finishing a software task in good time. We can pool our resources together in order to substantially increase the value of our community and coin and get more things done in less time. But if a community member is the first to finish the task, then they can claim the bounty.

Thanks for your patience regarding these questions. PoC is designed to provide coin-holders with a share of profits while also providing a means to get to the point where we're making profits.

If I understand your question, we are not selling coins. We are allowing users to become owners of the business by either exchanging coins or keeping a certain number of coins in their wallet for 30 days or more.

This helps to "secure the economy" of Karmacoin so that we can do bigger and better things. A strong economy makes everything else stronger, including the network.


If the coin value goes down you still would have the same % of ownership.

The value of the coin is not tied to the value of Karmashares. It would also not affect your profit percentage.

More than likely, the value of Karmacoin would go up because we are making the economy stronger, building a real business, limiting the number of coins for sale on the market, and making the coin more desirable. And that's just a start.


You will exchange coins for points, and that number will not change. The number of points you have will determine what percentage of the company you will get (and percentage of profits).

The best time to exchange coins is now, during this week (Quantum period 1). This is because you will get the most points for your coins, at a 10x multiple. Next week it will be 5x.

However, your share of the company will be determined on May 11 after the "bonus" (or, Quantum) period ends. So your share of the company will change as more points are claimed by others.


If you are an owner in Karmashares you are not expected to participate. (It is common for only 1-2% of a community to be active.) However, these people will still own a percentage and have a claim on profits.

If you invest and then do nothing it is fine.

I hope my answers to your questions are ok. Please let me know if there's something else that can be clarified and I will try my best to respond. I'll also post your questions to the subreddit so other people can benefit from your good questions. Thanks for asking!

Did I miss the post where a member of the team responded to my first call for a member of the team to take over the Karma services under my control?

How about the second post?

Maybe the third?

No..  Those posts were all willingly ignored. Not a single peep, even though we continued to read them and decided not to respond.

That's the thing. By the time people feel bad about ignoring something so important, it's too late.

It is my responsibility to take care of the things I have myself bought and paid for in service of Karma. I will continue to be in service to Karma by doing what I feel is right. (Not by listening to a couple of outspoken posters who probably don't give a rat's bottom about Karma when it comes down to brass tacks, and somehow think they are speaking for the 99% of the community that doesn't post)

We cannot say that I do not listen when I have already put out more than 1 request for a response. Anyone visiting these threads can see it plainly. I have nothing else to say about the matter.

Feel bad about not responding, after the fact? Please, build a time machine.

You are welcome to continue with Trello or whatever else you've set up. No one is stopping you, and it may benefit Karma in some way. It's good to have balance. But please don't be upset because I 1) decided to take action back then, when no one else would; and 2) I am deciding to take action now, when no one else will