Topic: [ANN][KARM] Karma / ₭ / X11 - page 112. (Read 583254 times)

Those are not facts. How to split profits is decided by the shareholders based on what they think is fair. I couldn't understand the rest of your post.

what does FACT mean? does a lie with backer mean a fact?

after the fact what is a karma shareholder mean. is a karma shareholder smart or was it not so smart?

theres like 10pages how to split profits, are these all facts?

karma shareholders can vote ,is this a fact, how do i research this?

when i came here lill was worth over 6million, then it was 2 million. i can research myself but at a loss to find any facts?

can anyone help me here with fact finding?

I truly wanta help. dont know what to say. way more bashers here than needs be. both sides. it seems split in two both claiming rightous

karma IS a good word... phrase "what have you done for karma"...that is a sin... online i guess i take it...in person to even say that is taboo.

one of the main lacks of this coin is FACTS.when folks ask for facts its all about insults always always

how can one help on such shakeee ground

these bad things should be addressed......why attack history


Im not a investor just a miner and trader wishin to help

im not into helpin the deval

The short answer was given: server costs were too high to keep it running (I think kos said 500$/month). The real question is what happens to Lill in the future. Will it reappear and development commence at some point (as a Karma related project)?

A lot of us grew attached to it over the months, but the thing is: Lill belongs to kosmost and he can do whatever he wants with it. If he wants to share his plans with us - great! If not its none of our business...

Ohh, now you see. It is not very good when somebody is trolling at you. Is it? And it is only me with one post. And you are doing nothing for Karma. Now sit down and try to understand how kosmost, easteagle and bitwho are feeling after hundreds of insulting and clearly stupid posts. And these posts come from people with not a single fact on the table.

P.S. I speak Serbian, Macedonian, Russian and Turkish. English is also not my birth language. Perhaps you should go and try to mess with somebody else.

Why should it be? Is lill some kind of your property? What gives you the right to pretend anything about it? On what basis are you demanding anything at all? Are you alone with yourself or you have somebody else in the head with you? Do you think that your doctor prescribed you a wrong recipe and this is why you can not come to yourself? Are those questions specific enough?

Why is Lill.com not online anymore?
I hope this question is specific enough.

to clarify your above statement, I consulted with both a lawyer and a tax attorney before the LLC was formed.

However, the rules of the game don't stay the same. Once the IRS guidance came out and there was additional attention brought to Bitcoin by the SEC we began to ask different kinds of questions.

It may be more productive to discuss things in Karma's future, so I won't be answering many questions about Karmashares that have already been answered before.

Lill was not sold. Market activity has/had nothing to do with Lill. Please get your 'facts' straight before relaying them to others. Should you have specific questions please let us know.

Please help us build some useful services for karma. It has to be a unified effort.

Trello is blackboard and is being used to organize task. no one is being brainwashed there. jesus man. did you even bother to sign up and read it?

[/quote]
+1

Everyone is more then welcomed to create content for karma. No one can stop you. And if the community find your project to be a value then they will have a saying in being added to the OP and other social media and become recognized as officials projects.

[/quote]

my intention was not to you questioning this. I actually appreciated your input and is the main purpose i liked reading your post. I wished more people would have ask such question. at that time i believed everything would have been answered and solved once we used some funds to consult in regards to the LLC. The LLC was created to help karma and be %100 regulated. Problem started arising once Kosmost went ahead and registered us as legal LLC. he did that to start moving forwards and make the LLC legitimized. I think the error was to not consult with a proper layer first. when SEC started going after Bitcoin IPOS then i think Kosmost got a personal lawyer and realized it was illegal and shut it down. Being under his name and all. This is my opinion. I dont know perfectly well as things happened so fast.



The dice game was not something i was referring to. It was how you portrait us not having clear goals and you as an outsider did not find anything appealing to become and investor. While that is true, it is something we haven't had a chance to work on yet. We are taking the time to allow more people to get involved before we make crucial decision. When you pointed this out you came off as mocking us for not trying to move forward and focusing on the wrong subjects.


[/quote]

again. i am not discouraging you from asking question , just make them actual question and not belittle our efforts. if we are doing things the slower way and you believe we can do them better and faster then show us how. All we are trying right now it to glue back the pieces we got left after this dark few weeks. We are not rushing to make statements that are not easily reached anymore. At this time we are slowly getting back the people who want to continue helping. last time our fault was that we thought we could do things with 13-15 people This time we are trying to get everyone on board. It will be a unified effort or else. We are still giving time for more people to get involved.

we are not declining collaboration we urge them. But we also need to see actions and not linger to people who only talk.

i will continue to say that your question , opinions and expertise are still welcomed. Not sure what kind of answer you need from me or anyone else to see that we are not trying to turn down anyone who is willing to help.

-Who

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568529.5700

trello is just a divide and conquer-move. kindly stay on bitcointalk and maybe consider meeting up on irc.

a note for everyone:

there really is no one who "owns" karmacoin nor karma. there can be many teams. no one needs anyone's blessing to create content for karma(coin).

If you think calling into question the legal position surrounding the solicitation of an unregistered security viz Kosmost / Karmashares is "mocking" -- then I think I'm trying to help the wrong crowd.  If anything he was unable to satisfy the legal nature of the venture and in all likelihood shut it down.

If you think ask if a "dice game" is our Karma wants to be known as?  Is that the "mocking" you speak of?


I'm only comparing Karmacoin go forward needs to what ANY small business owner knows.  This is why having a neutral third party is in your better interests...


YES and if you cannot handle people "questioning" then you're clearly not cut out for collaboration.

Trust me when I say that I don't take ANYTHING here personally.  For me this is about finding and growing pro-social crypto projects that have the potential to add value and improve things globally.

Best of luck to all of you!

-dvd

i don't think he did this because he dis-credits your opinion. I think he just followed the rules he set up for trello. Everyone in there will be there because they want to get involved with Karma. I don't agree with him booting you out but i do agree that if you really wanted to help you would start advising instead of mocking or validating our current path.

As you can see, we are picking up the pieces from those who abandoned us. We are in no shape to glow and say here are our goals so of course it is not helpful when you make post pointing this out. We know this. there is no need to compare and contrast us with Top 500 companies.

you're more then welcome to help us. If you can share your experience and give us some pointers. the community is not booting you. East just removed access to trello just like he is doing to other who joined and are not helping but questioning, complaining or downplaying our intentions. Trello is not a cult group, but it will be treated harsher then how we did it before. We allowed anyone to join and not do anything.

If you want to help you should stick around here and share your thoughts on how we can do stuff. perhaps even show us how to do them.

You are also more them welcome to do what you wanted with karma as your side project. you never shared your thoughts but i think you wanted to push for karma as a donation project. nothing is stopping you to pursue this as a side project.

Clearly at this time karma lost few dedicated members and gained some trolls. i am sure we all agree that you brought some positive thinking and would love to see you staying active here.

hope you understand that trello move , while harsh was only made to keep things focused. when you show you are getting involved i am sure east will add you promptly to the board. ( he chosed you in his group selections before)

Facira, I'm sorry, maybe you missed posts of the person responsible for that. But we cannot point you to the karmashares forum now. (shutdown already), I hope you can find clues on the BTT posts though.

Thanks for the kind words for us (me & who)...I hope that you're not so angry out there reading posts you don't like. What you have to do is come back as fast as you can, and help us out here. You should take those services.

You did not even invite us crock. 

Lil was sold , several dumps  occurred too, goodbye cruel world, Tahiti here I come !

I am on impossible place, so I will make this quick, cause I don`t know when the con will drop. LoL  

bassieflup, what?!? Google translate doesn`t work for you very well, does it... We are all done with so many threads about different coins produced by dumb suckers like you and their employers. I am doing the same as you - sell at the peak of the price and buy slow when the price is down. And now is perfect time to rebuild Karma wallet. If you were smart, you would know it. But I am not jerking around and spreading FUD. These times are over in crypto. There are smarter people here now. So, good bye, you jerk!

TheLittleDuke - I see you like quotes, so this is especially for you. IF YOU DON`T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AND WHERE TO GO, COME TO YOURSELF. Do you know how many heavy guys like you came here to give advise on this and that, and at the end somebody else did the job. If you think you are capable to maintain a community like Karma, you are way over your head. Maybe you should change your dealer, cause what you take is seriously damaging your brain. I hope kosmost will not make the mistake to give the coin to somebody as slow as you. Cause if he do it, Karma will succeed. In 30 years..... Meanwhile you can continue to do nothing here and pretending for many things, without giving anything and just waiting to take advantage of the situation.

I hope also kosmost will not make the mistake to give Karma to mroyusa. At the first moment I thought that he is good entry point, but now I see he is only exit point. We must be crazy to expect dedication from somebody, who is involved with God knows how many coins. So this is the time to again give all credits to kosmost, who is always open minded and doesn`t take his decisions based on intuition. The way he think is so cold and efficient that is beyond comprehension. If it was up to me, I would gave Karma until now to some of these 2 guys. But Kos is doing it again the proper way. This is why few or even no one can understand him at all the time.

For only a week I see that East and bitwho reorganized and did so many things (I don`t know exactly how many, cause I am not capable to read all). They are amazing and I don`t find no one else being capable as them. I admire them and I am ashamed that I can`t help them.

Nothing changed for Karma since yesterday. It is still the single greatest coin out there. Time to buy again! I am sorry for all who don`t understand it. Actually, I petty them. You should continue to work in grocery. Crypto investments are not for you.