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there was no ample time to update for anyone, period., otherwise the coin would have been dead.
mcg
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keep it down then.

listen... the coin was dead... again... you wouldnt have made anything.

if middlecoin would have pushed hashrate to 22-25ghash and beyond.

diff would become 200-300. and all your miners would have left.

so your pool would have become an empty pool as well.

we had this set at block 21203. i wonder if you even would have updated by then.

we announced this all through twitter, facebook, irc channels, emails, did huge giveaways, wrote updatecheck bots

what pool are we talking about here.

these users were messaged btw

*"Del137", "coinmarket.io", "GREEDYJOHN", "Imperative", "Thecivico88"
*"ethought", "virtualdn", "f1ndm3h", "redmist", "destructor3"
*"f1ndm3h", "MoNxO", "def_ender", "userpacman", "SwagMiner"
*"DESUChANE6", "whoiis", "Fckbankscoin", "InCoinsWeTrust", "coincrow"
*"aaron_m", "hash.so", "chinbadboy", "rustylezaz", "sakkosekk"
*"ahnonamis", "roastbeef", "Jiyome", "bittick", "adam9317"
*"taken2", "btcltcdigger", "Ya", "ress", "Altcoinfaucet"
*"Danz0r77", "KeyserSozeMC", "LitcoinCollector", "Hepic", "patyjm"
*"xhash", "hashfun", "paulus51", "dasource", "GregH37"
*"djslick", "mysticcrypto", "cyrilbf", "Pattes", "cdoyle14"
*"yogg", "blaster51", "stas", "NJRiot", "rednalexa"
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ppl we wont refund anything.

thats that.

further.... the coin would be dead ( and you would have nothing at all ) if we didnt update this.

we invested more then 10! million coins to get

a) updates through
b) keep multipools off ( 2 million a day to send only 5ghash )
c) made upgrade rewards

not to speak of the time we invested.

if we didnt all do this... the coin would most certain be completely dead.

we did as asked by the community.

we warned that this could happen, multiple times.

anyways... the coin is now back alive again and is usable.

no more blocklengths of 15 minutes or more.

so if you think you lost something, we lost a whole lot more ( even own money )

it might increase in value soon when we have finished the projects.

there will be no more updates for a while.

also the multipools are still on this.



I'm not asking for refunds. I can repay all my users for like $30. Who gives a shit.

What I am worried about is reputation damage. It looks like we're the irresponsible pool owners, when in fact it was Leafcoin's shitty decisions that caused this mess. You released a coin without doing any research, then your coin goes to difficulty purgatory, and instead of giving pools ample time to update and just waiting it out (RonPaulCoin did this the right way), you got impatient and changed the fork block height THREE times!

I updated our daemon twice, and still got shafted here. Terribly irresponsible moves by the Leafcoin dev team. Not sure if I even want to open the pool back up.
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CoinMine.pw

Now in regards to upgrade and why its important.. please read the thread as there have been multiple posts on the subject..
Basically... the difficulty changes every block and within 3-5 blocks matches the current network so even if multipool joins in they will only find about 3-4 blocks before difficulty is to high for them to find it profitable. At that point they will leave the network and instead of us taking 2 days to resolve 240 blocks at a difficulty of 150 or so the network will automatically reduce difficulty every block to match the current network.. so that means if you are waiting for a difficulty of 25-30 its unlikely to happen as we have pretty much established a stable hash rate of around 3 gh/s which means difficulty dropping below 40 is unlikely.


The main question here. How long peples will mine it with difficulty 100 - 200 if it's not profitable... Will see.
mcg
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ppl we wont refund anything.

thats that.

further.... the coin would be dead ( and you would have nothing at all ) if we didnt update this.

we invested more then 10! million coins to get

a) updates through
b) keep multipools off ( 2 million a day to send only 5ghash )
c) made upgrade rewards

not to speak of the time we invested.

if we didnt all do this... the coin would most certain be completely dead since middlecoin would have pointed 22ghash at us.. pushing diff to 200-300 and then leave ( then you would be in here that you cannot send transactions and coin is unusable ).

we did as asked by the community.

we warned that this could happen, multiple times.

anyways... the coin is now back alive again and is usable.

no more blocklengths of 15 minutes or more.

so if you think you lost something, we lost a whole lot more ( even own money )

it might increase in value soon when we have finished the projects.

there will be no more updates for a while.

also the multipools are still on this.

you should have monitored the news.... you should have been deeper involved... this is cryptoworld

there were more then 10 pages on this subject in this thread
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It changes diff very quick in the both ways. Too quick for multipools.

I have mine several block in my CoinMine.PW when difficulty was 18-25 and now it's 150. I have stop mining it. What to do next?
If difficulty becomes 20 again I'll mine it next block and stop mining next block if difficulty becomes low... I don't understand Idea.

I have updated several days ago to protocol version 80006 and don't wait what it will be updated several days later to 80007.
Usually it takes minimum month...
Now you have 3 block chains and almost all pool at wrong chain. Nice.
This mean "The Devs seemed to have done everything possible to inform Exchanges/Pools/Miners"...

May be some one return to me my lost 428 769 LEAFs to fQEBsNnzqwB1UYwAinxPDsUgGxiMqe3ELp ?..

You can add CoinMine.PW to the Pools list. It have right block chain now
It's not only multipool. You can mine only LEAFs if you want.

ok the fault here is yours.. as there was basically a drive to upgrade to the 3rd wallet.. i also think all the pools had already upgraded their wallet to the right chain as they and the exchanges were the first to be notified. Can you tell me what is your hashrate?


Sure it's my fault and I'll pay for this from my pocket to users.
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Hey LEAFCOIN thread, looking for a place to mine LEAF? Join us at Chunky Pool!

You a at wrong chain. Congratulations. Smiley

No shit. We updated the daemon 3 days ago. Not very responsible of the devs to release 3 times in a week, moving the fork closer and closer. I was told it would be a week before the fork hit anyway.
Ya
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do I need to redownload the blockchain once I have updated?
Yes.
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CoinMine.pw
Hey LEAFCOIN thread, looking for a place to mine LEAF? Join us at Chunky Pool!

You a at wrong chain. Congratulations. Smiley
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Has the LEAF blockchain forked? I have a miner in my pool whose wallet is not showing his deposit. His wallet is synced up, and the blockexplorer @ cryptexplorer.com shows the correct deposit. I can't think of anything else besides a forked blockchain.
Yes, because of update, since block 18818. This is correct chain: http://explorer.leafco.in/chain/LeafCoin
http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/LeafCoin was not yet updated and is on wrong fork.

Hmm, looks like my pool is on the wrong fork. We just updated on Feb 7th! What the fuck!

In order to correct this issue, do I need to redownload the blockchain once I have updated?
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CoinMine.pw
yes. I have already deleted all chain
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434996.0
It changes diff very quick in the both ways. Too quick for multipools.

I have mine several block in my CoinMine.PW when difficulty was 18-25 and now it's 150. I have stop mining it. What to do next?
If difficulty becomes 20 again I'll mine it next block and stop mining next block if difficulty becomes low... I don't understand Idea.

I have updated several days ago to protocol version 80006 and don't wait what it will be updated several days later to 80007.
Usually it takes minimum month...
Now you have 3 block chains and almost all pool at wrong chain. Nice.
This mean "The Devs seemed to have done everything possible to inform Exchanges/Pools/Miners"...

May be some one return to me my lost 428 769 LEAFs to fQEBsNnzqwB1UYwAinxPDsUgGxiMqe3ELp ?..

You can add CoinMine.PW to the Pools list. It have right block chain now
It's not only multipool. You can mine only LEAFs if you want.

ok the fault here is yours.. as there was basically a drive to upgrade to the 3rd wallet.. i also think all the pools had already upgraded their wallet to the right chain as they and the exchanges were the first to be notified. Can you tell me what is your hashrate?

Now in regards to upgrade and why its important.. please read the thread as there have been multiple posts on the subject..
Basically... the difficulty changes every block and within 3-5 blocks matches the current network so even if multipool joins in they will only find about 3-4 blocks before difficulty is to high for them to find it profitable. At that point they will leave the network and instead of us taking 2 days to resolve 240 blocks at a difficulty of 150 or so the network will automatically reduce difficulty every block to match the current network.. so that means if you are waiting for a difficulty of 25-30 its unlikely to happen as we have pretty much established a stable hash rate of around 3 gh/s which means difficulty dropping below 40 is unlikely.

Without update what would have happened was that the multipool takes about 85% of the 240 blocks @difficulty 20-30 in like  40 minutes then difficulty goes to 150-200 and then the community spends 3-4 days trying to find the blocks at the high difficulty at which point we lose network hashrate and still have a high difficulty ... your jumping in at 20-30 and out at 150 wont happen now.. because if difficulty hits 150 and is sustained.. then it means prices have reached that same corresponding level as well. otherwise you would literally have to monitor each and every block to figure out when you were needed to get in and out

by the way as you did not update your wallet in time.. you will need to delete all your blockchain data except your wallet.dat and resync.. otherwise even if you did get the new wallet... it will still read information of the wrong chain..

edit* i might be wrong but as its likely your on wallet is on the wrong blockchain... the above..delete and resync should show your correct balance.. including ur missing LEAF..

unless of course the pool themselves are on the wrong chain.. which is unlikely as those operators were already informed of the same
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Pls give me some address node. My wallet have prolem.It can not update balance.

try this... go to %appdata% your Roaming Folder.. delete peer.dat

Restart wallet..
It work , Thanks
Ya
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Has the LEAF blockchain forked? I have a miner in my pool whose wallet is not showing his deposit. His wallet is synced up, and the blockexplorer @ cryptexplorer.com shows the correct deposit. I can't think of anything else besides a forked blockchain.
Yes, because of update, since block 18818. This is correct chain: http://explorer.leafco.in/chain/LeafCoin
http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/LeafCoin was not yet updated and is on wrong fork.
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Has the LEAF blockchain forked? I have a miner in my pool whose wallet is not showing his deposit. His wallet is synced up, and the blockexplorer @ cryptexplorer.com shows the correct deposit. I can't think of anything else besides a forked blockchain.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434996.0
yep looks to be that way.. 1hr 5 minutes... and nothing.. oh well not in a rush... usually with a support ticket.. i get credited within 30 minutes

its funny if the new system to make a deposit at cryptsy is to send your money and then send them a support ticket informing them about it... if you dont... its theirs..

well it seems to be a support ticket will be needed.. 8 hours 20 minutes and still now showing in pending.
I am curious enough to see what cryptsy will do when it comes to the missing deposit if i don't open a support ticket
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434996.0
Pls give me some address node. My wallet have prolem.It can not update balance.

try this... go to %appdata% your Roaming Folder.. delete peer.dat

Restart wallet..
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please add http://p2p.bingepool.net to op?..   Lips sealed

Updating the leaf coin wallet now..
Ya
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It changes diff very quick in the both ways. Too quick for multipools.
I have updated several days ago to protocol version 80006 and don't wait what it will be updated several days later to 80007.
Usually it takes minimum month...
Now you have 3 block chains and almost all pool at wrong chain. Nice.
This mean "The Devs seemed to have done everything possible to inform Exchanges/Pools/Miners"...

May be some one return to me my lost 428 769 LEAFs to fQEBsNnzqwB1UYwAinxPDsUgGxiMqe3ELp ?..
It was unpleasantly for those who did not update in time, but it maybe was the only possibility to save the coin from totally stuck without miners on high difficulty blocks. Thats why we say that it was done in a very right way and just in time. Some time later - and it might be too late, and then "428 769 LEAFs" could cost nothing.
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