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newbie
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Yeah I too am getting crushed by stales after found blocks.  Is there anything I can do from my side?

EDIT: Switching from cgminer to Reaper seemed to help immensely

Has anyone else experienced less stales running Reaper instead of CGminer?

I have always been able to match Reaper hash rates running CGminer and I have fully debugged my setup using CGminer.

Reaper looks like a whole new learning curve and it doesn't look like reaper handles overclocking internally, so I will have to get software and figure some way to script the overclocking...

Anybody have a quick and dirty GUI front end for reaper they suggest?

Planman
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Yeah I too am getting crushed by stales after found blocks.  Is there anything I can do from my side?

EDIT: Switching from cgminer to Reaper seemed to help immensely

Hey Zedster,

Thank you for the tip... what version of Reaper are you running?

Planman
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Yeah I too am getting crushed by stales after found blocks.  Is there anything I can do from my side?

EDIT: Switching from cgminer to Reaper seemed to help immensely
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Every pool has the "stale period" when there's a new block on the network, so no it wouldn't help. It's not too bad in stratum, but looking back at it .. it's terrible on getwork (it's where most of the rounds stales come from)

Ok Nickasa! Thanks for pointing that out. It makes sense when you explain it that way.

I just edited my batch files and am back to --failover-only mode. This should climb me from 1869 khash to around 2300 khash since work won't be bleeding to my backup pool anymore. If nothing else, this should bump up my share of the pool.

Next question: Are we running stratum here in Burnside's pool?

If no, who do we tip?  Grin

Smiley  I'll get it going soon as I can.  Then if you want to tip, you can plug in a higher donation percentage.  Wink


HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh? Higher donation percentage? Uh, oh...

I was planning cocaine and hookers... but if all it takes to make you happy is a few more litecoins...

 Grin
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
Every pool has the "stale period" when there's a new block on the network, so no it wouldn't help. It's not too bad in stratum, but looking back at it .. it's terrible on getwork (it's where most of the rounds stales come from)

Ok Nickasa! Thanks for pointing that out. It makes sense when you explain it that way.

I just edited my batch files and am back to --failover-only mode. This should climb me from 1869 khash to around 2300 khash since work won't be bleeding to my backup pool anymore. If nothing else, this should bump up my share of the pool.

Next question: Are we running stratum here in Burnside's pool?

If no, who do we tip?  Grin

Smiley  I'll get it going soon as I can.  Then if you want to tip, you can plug in a higher donation percentage.  Wink
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Every pool has the "stale period" when there's a new block on the network, so no it wouldn't help. It's not too bad in stratum, but looking back at it .. it's terrible on getwork (it's where most of the rounds stales come from)

Ok Nickasa! Thanks for pointing that out. It makes sense when you explain it that way.

I just edited my batch files and am back to --failover-only mode. This should climb me from 1869 khash to around 2300 khash since work won't be bleeding to my backup pool anymore. If nothing else, this should bump up my share of the pool.

Next question: Are we running stratum here in Burnside's pool?

If no, who do we tip?  Grin

legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
Hello burnside, first off as a fellow Oregonian, its good to see a local pool!, been lovin it so far  Smiley

Ack, "burnside". Why didn't I catch that before this!?!

PDX representing!

Haha, awesome!

Dare I say it? .... Go Beavs!   Grin
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
The Assman: CEO of Vandelay Import/Export, Inc.
Hello burnside, first off as a fellow Oregonian, its good to see a local pool!, been lovin it so far  Smiley

Ack, "burnside". Why didn't I catch that before this!?!

PDX representing!
sr. member
Activity: 288
Merit: 250
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0

I hate to say it, but I have zero experience with cgminer.  I need to play with it soon to get some stratum support going though!

I do wonder... if the stales are mostly from the block boundaries, would failing over to another pool be helpful?  Or would they also be seeing dips around the same block boundaries?



I think the stales are most from block boundaries. I run stratum and when I check my stats, I am usually near the low end of stales when compared to the overall pool population.

Failing over to another pool when CGminer determines ltc.kattare.com to be running slow or failing is netting me about 15% of my daily take on ltc.kattare.com. The pool I am failing over too either doesn't get the same dips.... or maybe they are paying for stales?

I will keep you posted if I feel I learn something actionable while I work on this.

Planman
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0

Don't know if that could be even remotely related but isn't 4gb ram low for 2mh/s scrypt?
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Great question! I doubled the amount of RAM to 8Gb, ran 24 hours, and the hash rate didn't vary more than 1%

So... I went back to 4 and plugged the extra 4GB into my next miner....
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
hero member
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Merit: 500
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Hello Burnside,

Love your pool to death! Trying to do my best on this end to deliver optimize my rigs.

I have a question about the best way to run cgminer 2.10.5. Specifically I am trying to determine if I should run failover-only or the default failover setting.

My setup is

4 x 5850's running about 1.4 Mhash
1 x 5850   running about 380 Khash
1 x 5870   running about 410 Khash

All of the above equipment is running Windows 7 - 64bit, 4GB ram, and cooled to <72. My hardware is totally stable and runs non-stop.

The problem I am trying to solve: High stales and a lack fault tolerance (your pool is highly available, no slight intended. I just want to be sure my gear keeps running!)

I tried running cgminer with the -load-balance setting but it sent about 50% of the work to the other pool I use. So I stopped doing that.

Then I set cgminer to run with -failover-only. In this mode 99%+ of my hashing went to your pool.

The Litecoin yield was great but I also had very high stales. I hit refresh a few times and saw the stales rate change, so I think the high stales might have been related to one of your background processes starting up and bogging down the server for a few seconds.

In an effort to reduce the stales I changed cgminer to run the default failover mode. In the default failover mode, about 20% of my hashing bleeds over to the failover pool. I have a hard time accepting that so much of my hashing is best sent to the backup pool, but then again the settings in cgminer have proved very reliable in my other applications. If this was best, the yield from the backup pool should be 25% of the daily burnsides pool yield. The yield is only about 15% of the Burnside yield, so I think that tells me something.

What should I do to optimize my setup?

I wondered maybe I should download your Stratum proxy and run that locally for my group of three machines. I thought that might be a small improvement.

Should i just run cgminer as -failover-only and stop worrying about the stales? Or should I run in the default failover mode and let CGminer bleed over some of my work to pool 2 because there really are times the Burnside pool cannot supply enough work.

Thank you in advance for taking a few minutes to read over my questions and thank you for the well implemented pool!

Planman

legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
Hello burnside, first off as a fellow Oregonian, its good to see a local pool!, been lovin it so far  Smiley

and a question, is there a way to turn off the payment notifications? not that big of a deal, was just curious

Thanks!

Hey there!  Small world.  Wink

There's not currently a way to turn off the email payment notifications.  Maybe we could implement it down the road?  Wouldn't be hard if there's a set of users that want it.

newbie
Activity: 53
Merit: 0
Hello burnside, first off as a fellow Oregonian, its good to see a local pool!, been lovin it so far  Smiley

and a question, is there a way to turn off the payment notifications? not that big of a deal, was just curious

Thanks!
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1060
May the force bit with you.

It justs looks like currently (assuming identical hash rates), it's more profitable to mine LTC and trade for BTC. No?



This will never happen. BTC uses sha256 LTC uses -scrypt. Totally different algos. The speeds for mining btc vs ltc is very different.
sr. member
Activity: 288
Merit: 250
I just joined the burnside pool. I'm currently mining BTC @ ~12,000 Mh/s on other pools and am considering switching to LTC. I'm testing the waters with one PC and, while cgminer reports 535.3 kh/s, burnside pool reports ~65 kH/s.

Is there any advice you can give me about mining for LTC more efficiently on the burnside pool. Alternatively, if you think this is a horrible idea (as compared to mining for BTC) that'd be good to know, too.

It justs looks like currently (assuming identical hash rates), it's more profitable to mine LTC and trade for BTC. No?

**I should note, I've tried a few other LTC pools and see the same thing, so I'm sure it's something on my end (either unrealistic expectation or incorrect setting).
Considering your using all the same cards and settings, once you've got your config right use a calculator like the one on notroll.in and enter the BTC & LTC hashrate you get on the card and see if you gain anything by mining ltc.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1005
The pool gives the average for the past hour or so if I remember right.  Also make sure your LTC settings are correct and you aren't throwing huge amounts of HW errors (see thread in my sig).
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
The Assman: CEO of Vandelay Import/Export, Inc.
I just joined the burnside pool. I'm currently mining BTC @ ~12,000 Mh/s on other pools and am considering switching to LTC. I'm testing the waters with one PC and, while cgminer reports 535.3 kh/s, burnside pool reports ~65 kH/s.

Is there any advice you can give me about mining for LTC more efficiently on the burnside pool. Alternatively, if you think this is a horrible idea (as compared to mining for BTC) that'd be good to know, too.

It justs looks like currently (assuming identical hash rates), it's more profitable to mine LTC and trade for BTC. No?

**I should note, I've tried a few other LTC pools and see the same thing, so I'm sure it's something on my end (either unrealistic expectation or incorrect setting).
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