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Topic: [ANN][LTC][Pool][PPLNS][STRATUM] - ltc.kattare.com - burnside's Mining Pool - page 32. (Read 118882 times)

newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
Hi, I'm kinda new to mining in general and hoping someone can explain an observation I've seen with using litecoin pools.

I've got 2xGTX 570's. Not ideal I know, but I settled on using cgminer for these. NVIDIA cards don't seem very well supported in the other mining software options.

The cards are nicely hashing along at a 200kh/s rate in cgminer. But when I look at the hash rate stats for my pool (any pool, not just burnside) the hash rate throughout the day is mostly much lower...say 50kh/s. I have seen the stats reporting 150kh/s from these cards occasionally but usually not for very long.

Can anyone explain why this is? My stale percentage is low <10%.

I'm puzzled.

Cgminer config is :
cgminer --scrypt -o http://ltc.kattare.com:9332/ -u XXX -p XXX - --shaders 480 --intensity 13 --worksize 128 -g 1

*I've also noticed that mining with the CPU via scryptminer GUI can often produce a higher hash rate in the stats than my GPU's, something is just not right.

I wish I could help, I have zero experience with mining on nvidia gear.   Undecided

I plan to switch to a couple of 6950's soon. Will be interesting to see if I have the same problems....

I'll try out that pooler miner too, thanks.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100


*I've also noticed that mining with the CPU via scryptminer GUI can often produce a higher hash rate in the stats than my GPU's, something is just not right.

You might wanna check out poolers cup miner,  depending on your cpu, many find it faster.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
From my experience cgminer will do that with in correct settings for your card.  I can get almost 100 kh/s more with some settings but then my work output will drop.  The website guesses your speed by the work you submit thus your low speed on the site.

For the guy above with the stale issues, what is your thread concurrency set at?  I might be able to help you.  I had that exact issue before.  For some reason it didn't pop up at other pools but did here.  However one I got things sorted, I make more here.  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
Hi, I'm kinda new to mining in general and hoping someone can explain an observation I've seen with using litecoin pools.

I've got 2xGTX 570's. Not ideal I know, but I settled on using cgminer for these. NVIDIA cards don't seem very well supported in the other mining software options.

The cards are nicely hashing along at a 200kh/s rate in cgminer. But when I look at the hash rate stats for my pool (any pool, not just burnside) the hash rate throughout the day is mostly much lower...say 50kh/s. I have seen the stats reporting 150kh/s from these cards occasionally but usually not for very long.

Can anyone explain why this is? My stale percentage is low <10%.

I'm puzzled.

Cgminer config is :
cgminer --scrypt -o http://ltc.kattare.com:9332/ -u XXX -p XXX - --shaders 480 --intensity 13 --worksize 128 -g 1

*I've also noticed that mining with the CPU via scryptminer GUI can often produce a higher hash rate in the stats than my GPU's, something is just not right.

I wish I could help, I have zero experience with mining on nvidia gear.   Undecided
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
Hi, I'm kinda new to mining in general and hoping someone can explain an observation I've seen with using litecoin pools.

I've got 2xGTX 570's. Not ideal I know, but I settled on using cgminer for these. NVIDIA cards don't seem very well supported in the other mining software options.

The cards are nicely hashing along at a 200kh/s rate in cgminer. But when I look at the hash rate stats for my pool (any pool, not just burnside) the hash rate throughout the day is mostly much lower...say 50kh/s. I have seen the stats reporting 150kh/s from these cards occasionally but usually not for very long.

Can anyone explain why this is? My stale percentage is low <10%.

I'm puzzled.

Cgminer config is :
cgminer --scrypt -o http://ltc.kattare.com:9332/ -u XXX -p XXX - --shaders 480 --intensity 13 --worksize 128 -g 1

*I've also noticed that mining with the CPU via scryptminer GUI can often produce a higher hash rate in the stats than my GPU's, something is just not right.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
HA i love the top stales board!

It's a nice addition for sure. Sux i ended up on that board... never had an issue with this pool before and now - BAM 65% stales out of nowhere...

You're not the only one that has reported this today.  I'm gonna try shifting some things around, see if I can't improve things.  I may end up having to pull the DDoS service out of the loop to see if things get better.   
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
HA i love the top stales board!

It's a nice addition for sure. Sux i ended up on that board... never had an issue with this pool before and now - BAM 65% stales out of nowhere...
hero member
Activity: 806
Merit: 1000
COINMIXER.NET
HA i love the top stales board!
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
Well really wondering what is going on here I'm getting 30% stale no matter what I set it too.  before I was getting 100%.  I thought I finally had it set right but I come back to my rig with tons of stales.  It seems when I first start up the miner I get really good 1% stale rate for about 40 minutes then suddenly I will get a message that the pool is rejecting then I get all these Stale shares in a row.  I have tried both cgminer and reaper with same results.

Are you monitoring the temp on the card?  Maybe the card runs cool for a while, then crashes when it hits a certain temp?

Cheers.

They are water cooled and undervolted, I'm accually using 0.025v more per card than I used for bitcoin just to make sure everything is stable its running at 0.975v at 900 Core (before you asked I tried 1.125v at 900 core and stock clocks as well).  But now I just tried a different pool for last few hours everything looks normal.  I only been mining litecoins for a few weeks I did a few hours solo and few hours on your pool.  I know my cards are stable because the other pool is working well.  I'm actually surprised that it worked just switching pools, I thought it was my settings.  So is there a setting I have on this pool that should be different.
Oh and temps of the cards haven't gone over 50c on one card with backplate.  The other two cards with no backplate haven't gone over 46c.

Yeah, doesn't sound like a card issue.  I did some tweaking to the pushpoold balancing config this evening.  I discovered that it wasn't balancing the two daemons very evenly.  I'm not sure what else to do.  I hate having to run everything behind the DDoS service.  Sad

sr. member
Activity: 791
Merit: 273
This is personal
Well really wondering what is going on here I'm getting 30% stale no matter what I set it too.  before I was getting 100%.  I thought I finally had it set right but I come back to my rig with tons of stales.  It seems when I first start up the miner I get really good 1% stale rate for about 40 minutes then suddenly I will get a message that the pool is rejecting then I get all these Stale shares in a row.  I have tried both cgminer and reaper with same results.

Are you monitoring the temp on the card?  Maybe the card runs cool for a while, then crashes when it hits a certain temp?

Cheers.

They are water cooled and undervolted, I'm accually using 0.025v more per card than I used for bitcoin just to make sure everything is stable its running at 0.975v at 900 Core (before you asked I tried 1.125v at 900 core and stock clocks as well).  But now I just tried a different pool for last few hours everything looks normal.  I only been mining litecoins for a few weeks I did a few hours solo and few hours on your pool.  I know my cards are stable because the other pool is working well.  I'm actually surprised that it worked just switching pools, I thought it was my settings.  So is there a setting I have on this pool that should be different.
Oh and temps of the cards haven't gone over 50c on one card with backplate.  The other two cards with no backplate haven't gone over 46c.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
Well really wondering what is going on here I'm getting 30% stale no matter what I set it too.  before I was getting 100%.  I thought I finally had it set right but I come back to my rig with tons of stales.  It seems when I first start up the miner I get really good 1% stale rate for about 40 minutes then suddenly I will get a message that the pool is rejecting then I get all these Stale shares in a row.  I have tried both cgminer and reaper with same results.

Are you monitoring the temp on the card?  Maybe the card runs cool for a while, then crashes when it hits a certain temp?

Cheers.
sr. member
Activity: 791
Merit: 273
This is personal
Well really wondering what is going on here I'm getting 30% stale no matter what I set it too.  before I was getting 100%.  I thought I finally had it set right but I come back to my rig with tons of stales.  It seems when I first start up the miner I get really good 1% stale rate for about 40 minutes then suddenly I will get a message that the pool is rejecting then I get all these Stale shares in a row.  I have tried both cgminer and reaper with same results.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
I added a new section, "Top 6 Stales Today" ... if you make the list chances are pretty good that your miner is not configured properly and may in fact be DoS'ing the pool a bit.  Wink

The biggest issues are:

- forgetting to configure it for scrypt.  (instead of sha256)
- video card config settings need tweaked.  (the 7xxx series cards are notoriously hard to get right.)

Please visit this thread for config help: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/consolidated-litecoin-mining-guide-for-5xxx-6xxx-and-7xxx-gpus-117221

Cheers.

sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Could a culprit be the internet, because it has been exceedingly unreliable in the past week or so.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
What could be causing high stale most likely?
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
No problem, was flippin! Tongue

Going to get a few more 1,000khash going I hopes! See you fellas in the pool.

Don't forget to PM me your username for the unlock.  Wink

sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Been mining on this almost a week with 600khash or so since pool-x went down. Decided I liked it better, added 950 more khash, but while tinkering i found out I am now suddenly banned from Burnside. Says "Account banned".. yet I can sure still connect with my miner, mine, and you get money.

Why on earth was my account banned, why was there no notice, where is my LTC?

Apologies if this is something simple...

I fixed the wording on that error message too.  Now it will say "This account has been locked, too many failed attempts."

The banned message is how it was in the original simplecoin source.  Sorry about that.

Cheers.


No problem, was flippin! Tongue

Going to get a few more 1,000khash going I hopes! See you fellas in the pool.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
Been mining on this almost a week with 600khash or so since pool-x went down. Decided I liked it better, added 950 more khash, but while tinkering i found out I am now suddenly banned from Burnside. Says "Account banned".. yet I can sure still connect with my miner, mine, and you get money.

Why on earth was my account banned, why was there no notice, where is my LTC?

Apologies if this is something simple...

I fixed the wording on that error message too.  Now it will say "This account has been locked, too many failed attempts."

The banned message is how it was in the original simplecoin source.  Sorry about that.

Cheers.

legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
Been mining on this almost a week with 600khash or so since pool-x went down. Decided I liked it better, added 950 more khash, but while tinkering i found out I am now suddenly banned from Burnside. Says "Account banned".. yet I can sure still connect with my miner, mine, and you get money.

Why on earth was my account banned, why was there no notice, where is my LTC?

Apologies if this is something simple...

It means someone tried to log into your account and failed 5 times.  PM me your account username, I will reset the counter.

Cheers.



sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Been mining on this almost a week with 600khash or so since pool-x went down. Decided I liked it better, added 950 more khash, but while tinkering i found out I am now suddenly banned from Burnside. Says "Account banned".. yet I can sure still connect with my miner, mine, and you get money.

Why on earth was my account banned, why was there no notice, where is my LTC?

Apologies if this is something simple...
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