[ANN][LTC][Pool][PPLNS][STRATUM] - ltc.kattare.com - burnside's Mining Pool - page 29.

Zedster

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Quote from: burnside on February 20, 2013, 03:59:44 AM

By output do you mean hashrate? Or shares? Shares can vary widely from pool to pool depending on how difficult their shares are.

If you're talking hashrate, it may be an issue with the DDoS they've been dealing with or something. Not really sure...

Nah i think attack has subsided. But the hash rates seem the same and for the most part the shares seem about the but actual payout is about 1/3. I just switched it from PPS to RBPPS could that have been it? I realize this not your problem or even pertaining to you pool completely but I do appreciate any insight. Really just trying to understand mining a bit better.

burnside

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Quote from: Zedster on February 20, 2013, 03:01:37 AM

burnside maybe you can explain something to a newb? I am using reaper on your site to mine LTC. I get back what I consider a good pay off for my measly set up (very new here still using Nvidia, radeons on the way). But when i take basically the same set up over coinotron and fire it up for NVC I get about 1/5 the output.

I was under the impression that both coins were running about the same difficulty. What is this newb missing? Thanks for any help. And yes in the long haul I will be using your pool for LTC

By output do you mean hashrate? Or shares? Shares can vary widely from pool to pool depending on how difficult their shares are.

If you're talking hashrate, it may be an issue with the DDoS they've been dealing with or something. Not really sure...

Zedster

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burnside maybe you can explain something to a newb? I am using reaper on your site to mine LTC. I get back what I consider a good pay off for my measly set up (very new here still using Nvidia, radeons on the way). But when i take basically the same set up over coinotron and fire it up for NVC I get about 1/5 the output.

I was under the impression that both coins were running about the same difficulty. What is this newb missing? Thanks for any help. And yes in the long haul I will be using your pool for LTC

Zedster

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Quote from: burnside on February 20, 2013, 02:52:08 AM

Quote from: Zedster on February 20, 2013, 02:21:31 AM

No plans to implement NVC? I seem to get a good output with your pool on LTC if I move to coinotron for NVC I get about 1/10 the output. I am probably doing something wrong but I was just curious if you planned to offer NVC soon?

LTC is the one true alt-coin.

Wink

LOL oh don't get me wrong I agree. But NVC is much more pump and dump friendly atm. That is the sad truth.

burnside

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Quote from: Zedster on February 20, 2013, 02:21:31 AM

No plans to implement NVC? I seem to get a good output with your pool on LTC if I move to coinotron for NVC I get about 1/10 the output. I am probably doing something wrong but I was just curious if you planned to offer NVC soon?

LTC is the one true alt-coin.

Wink

Zedster

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Activity: 182

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No plans to implement NVC? I seem to get a good output with your pool on LTC if I move to coinotron for NVC I get about 1/10 the output. I am probably doing something wrong but I was just curious if you planned to offer NVC soon?

Giddeon

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Quote from: burnside on February 19, 2013, 06:05:24 PM

Quote from: Giddeon on February 19, 2013, 05:13:01 PM

Hi,

I'm having trouble connecting to the server with cpu miner 2.2.2, I'm getting 403 error when i use my browser.

Can you help?

403 error just means you're not authenticated. So to see that in the browser is good, it means your network connection to the pool is fine.

Are you sure you're on cpuminer 2.2.2? The latest 2.2.3 build for windows 64-bit had a bad bug in it. Go back a few posts for details.

Cheers.

Oh you're here haha..

Yeap, just ran the --version command, definitely 2.2.2

burnside

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Quote from: Giddeon on February 19, 2013, 05:13:01 PM

Hi,

I'm having trouble connecting to the server with cpu miner 2.2.2, I'm getting 403 error when i use my browser.

Can you help?

403 error just means you're not authenticated. So to see that in the browser is good, it means your network connection to the pool is fine.

Are you sure you're on cpuminer 2.2.2? The latest 2.2.3 build for windows 64-bit had a bad bug in it. Go back a few posts for details.

Cheers.

Giddeon

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Hi,

I'm having trouble connecting to the server with cpu miner 2.2.2, I'm getting 403 error when i use my browser.

Can you help?

burnside

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Quote from: ilich on February 18, 2013, 06:36:03 PM

I get the exact same thing, right after a new block EVERY time (prevhash-stale and unknown-work). My average stales around 5-7%. Add the donation into account and loosing coins on this pool. I'm moving back to another pool.

If I understand it correctly, every pool has stales after a new block. The only way to reduce that is to shorten the window a bit by using smaller shares. (smaller work size) I can't do that though because that causes higher load on the box. I'll explore reducing it when we have the newer box in production.

The other thing to keep in mind is that the pool efficiency is essentially an inverted number of everyone's overall stales, so when I see this like I do right now:

Pool Hash Rate 86.485 MH/s
Pool Efficiency 98.22%

That means the pool right now has 1.78% stales. If you balance that with the higher stales around new block time, I think for most it averages out to 2% - 3% per round. (in my case, right now, 2.6%)

I could hide the new-block efficiency drops by calculating over a longer time period, or more shares, such that they'd get lost in the averages, but I actually prefer it like it is where we can see the swings more clearly.

Cheers.

Tranz

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May the force bit with you.

Hi, new here and to mining, but so far I like your site! Can't say much for the stales, as I am still pretty slow compared to the power users. But hopefully I get can things moving faster here in the future. Still learning and having fun!

Thanks and happy mining!

ilich

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I get the exact same thing, right after a new block EVERY time (prevhash-stale and unknown-work). My average stales around 5-7%. Add the donation into account and loosing coins on this pool. I'm moving back to another pool.

burnside

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Quote from: Devious on February 18, 2013, 09:35:08 AM

The stale and unknowns are WAY too high, what's going on? I thought this was being addressed? 19% stale is not on my end, I've got 50MB fibre with a 32ms ping time, and I keep getting pool not providing work fast enough. If this can't be addressed it makes no sense to stay.

[2013-02-18 08:32:44] LONGPOLL from pool 0 detected new block
[2013-02-18 08:32:47] Rejected 006bb902 Diff 608/31 GPU 0 (prevhash-stale)
[2013-02-18 08:32:47] Rejected 0445a806 Diff 59/31 GPU 1 (prevhash-stale)
[2013-02-18 08:33:02] Rejected 01f4d841 Diff 130/31 GPU 0 (unknown-work)
[2013-02-18 08:33:03] Rejected 062b5f13 Diff 41/31 GPU 1 (unknown-work)
[2013-02-18 08:33:05] Rejected 01e16d7e Diff 136/31 GPU 1 (unknown-work)
[2013-02-18 08:33:08] Rejected 037ed51c Diff 73/31 GPU 0 (unknown-work)
[2013-02-18 08:33:09] Rejected 048fa180 Diff 56/31 GPU 0 (unknown-work)
[2013-02-18 08:33:10] Rejected 025d4668 Diff 108/31 GPU 1 (unknown-work)
[2013-02-18 08:33:19] Rejected 03c5e4c7 Diff 67/31 GPU 1 (unknown-work)

We do have some new hardware in the works. It'll be a week or two before it's deployed.

This is what I see on the site right now:

Pool Hash Rate   80.716 MH/s
Pool Efficiency   96.20%

Few mins later, reloaded the pool stats page, looks like this right now:

Pool Hash Rate   81.845 MH/s
Pool Efficiency   98.05%

Seems pretty good.

A few minutes later:

Pool Hash Rate   81.492 MH/s
Pool Efficiency   80.57%

Ugh... but... Ah! We also found the last block just a minute ago. Maybe the drops are happening on the round boundaries. That would explain the spikes in unknown-work? If you're submitting work for a block that was just solved? Your log seems to confirm that theory. LP new block found, then all work rejected for a minute after that?

Cheers.

Devious

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The stale and unknowns are WAY too high, what's going on? I thought this was being addressed? 19% stale is not on my end, I've got 50MB fibre with a 32ms ping time, and I keep getting pool not providing work fast enough. If this can't be addressed it makes no sense to stay.

[2013-02-18 08:32:44] LONGPOLL from pool 0 detected new block
[2013-02-18 08:32:47] Rejected 006bb902 Diff 608/31 GPU 0 (prevhash-stale)
[2013-02-18 08:32:47] Rejected 0445a806 Diff 59/31 GPU 1 (prevhash-stale)
[2013-02-18 08:33:02] Rejected 01f4d841 Diff 130/31 GPU 0 (unknown-work)
[2013-02-18 08:33:03] Rejected 062b5f13 Diff 41/31 GPU 1 (unknown-work)
[2013-02-18 08:33:05] Rejected 01e16d7e Diff 136/31 GPU 1 (unknown-work)
[2013-02-18 08:33:08] Rejected 037ed51c Diff 73/31 GPU 0 (unknown-work)
[2013-02-18 08:33:09] Rejected 048fa180 Diff 56/31 GPU 0 (unknown-work)
[2013-02-18 08:33:10] Rejected 025d4668 Diff 108/31 GPU 1 (unknown-work)
[2013-02-18 08:33:19] Rejected 03c5e4c7 Diff 67/31 GPU 1 (unknown-work)

burnside

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Quote from: matauc12 on February 17, 2013, 07:12:40 PM

Hey buddy, nice pool. Been on 24hours now because Pool-X crashed for 16hours which is somewhat unacceptable for me although I understand shit happens. 2% stale for now and everything is smooth on my end.

Now, I leave for a week so don't change the IP when im gone :p haha.

heh, we'll try to hold down the fort while you're gone.

matauc12

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Hey buddy, nice pool. Been on 24hours now because Pool-X crashed for 16hours which is somewhat unacceptable for me although I understand shit happens. 2% stale for now and everything is smooth on my end.

Now, I leave for a week so don't change the IP when im gone :p haha.

burnside

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Quote from: tacotime on February 16, 2013, 01:26:06 PM

Do you plan to get stratum? I'll bring my 2mhs back to your pool if you do

I honestly haven't had much time to look at it, but yeah, I do plan on looking into it soon.

tacotime

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Do you plan to get stratum? I'll bring my 2mhs back to your pool if you do

burnside

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Pooler is now aware of the issue. Turns out it wasn't tampered with by anyone nefarious, he just accidentally posted a binary he uses internally.

He'll probably post a new one soon.

Cheers.

burnside

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Quote from: g2x3k on February 16, 2013, 01:35:06 AM

where did you download it i just checked github source + bins please post some links

I've tried to get that answer from the second guy, with no success.

I did get this though:

Quote

Okay, it seems that whenever I do

--user=user
--pass=pass

it gives me that problem, command line or json file.

when i do
--userpass=user:pass

it works. Only tested on command line however. May be a bug?

I don't think it's likely to be a bug though. Seems likely there are creds getting built into the .exe.

I will note that the first guy said he got it from the link on our site, which goes to: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/an-even-more-optimized-version-of-cpuminer-poolers-cpuminer-cpu-only-55038

If I download the 64-bit windows binary there, unzip it, and run strings on it I get:

Code:

~/tmp$ strings minerd.exe | grep Ether
TheEther.1:1

And if I 'strings minerd.exe | less' I can see:

Code:

cpuminer 2.2.3
Usage: minerd [OPTIONS]
Options:
  -a, --algo=ALGO specify the algorithm to use
   scrypt scrypt(1024, 1, 1) (default)
   sha256d SHA-256d
  -o, --url=URL URL of mining server (default: http://141.165.227.52:9332/)
  -O, --userpass=U:P username:password pair for mining server
  -u, --user=USERNAME username for mining server
  -p, --pass=PASSWORD password for mining server
  -x, --proxy=[PROTOCOL://]HOST[:PORT] connect through a proxy
  -t, --threads=N number of miner threads (default: number of processors)
  -r, --retries=N number of times to retry if a network call fails
   (default: retry indefinitely)
  -R, --retry-pause=N time to pause between retries, in seconds (default: 30)
  -T, --timeout=N network timeout, in seconds (default: 270)
  -s, --scantime=N upper bound on time spent scanning current work when
   long polling is unavailable, in seconds (default: 5)
   --no-longpoll disable X-Long-Polling support
  -q, --quiet disable per-thread hashmeter output
  -D, --debug enable debug output
  -P, --protocol-dump verbose dump of protocol-level activities
   --benchmark run in offline benchmark mode
  -c, --config=FILE load a JSON-format configuration file
  -V, --version display version information and exit
  -h, --help display this help text and exit
algo
http://141.165.227.52:9332/
TheEther.1:1

So clearly the windows 64 binary has been tampered with.

Cheers.

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