Topic: ♦♦♦♦♦♦[ANN]♦♦MTR♦♦MasterTraderCoin♦♦10.4m♦♦TOSHIDESK LLC♦♦ETNA Partnership♦♦♦♦♦♦ - page 37. (Read 229761 times)

Hey Crysx!

Wondering what happened to you.

Sorry to hear you are having problems with your BCT account.

I'm pretty sure you will get things worked out with that.

Have you heard anything back yet?

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

tanx crazywack ...

but still nothing from them for about a week and a half now ...

i posted because a LOT of members still think i have access to the profile - and continue to send pms and communication that way ... i dont get ANY of them ...

so for the time being - im using this newbie ( ie - VERY limited account ) to get back on to bct and communicate ...

but i do appreciate the positive backup here - as its become a debilitating issue - not being able to communicate as effectively as i used to ...

anyway ... i see things here have been progressing - albeit slowly - but progressing nonetheless ... all good things take time - and i think that this project will be a bomb exploding when its fully functional ...

ive now taken over ozziecoin as well as having granite - so i would luv to have these two coins as part of the toshidesk project when it comes to light ... ill be back full time on the grn and ozc and dbm projects within a couple of weeks anyway - so a many changes will be happening soon - and if there is anything i can bring here - i will ...

tanx again ...

#crysx

Sorry for the headache crysx... That sucks after being such an active member of this community. I have no doubt that Theymos will work with you and get your account squared away.

Good luck
Crazy

a week or so late - but posted here nonetheless ...

i hope you dont mind mt777 ...

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hi all ...

chrysophylax here ...

im messaging from this 'newbie' account 'crysx' because i have tried to log in to bct from the new premises - and failed miserably ...

due to my computer being a linux machine AND being fully encrypted AND having a password wallet that is fully encrypted - i only ever really need to know a few passwrds ( 16 in all ) ... one of the passwords ( and details as i later found out - due to the questions that bct ask for verification ) i did not alott to memory were those conatined in the personal encrypted wallet ... one of those was bitcointalk password and details ...

yesterday - i tried to log in unsucessfully with the wrong password ... the password is 3 years old - which as long as ive had the chrysophylax profile ... it also has made more than 3000posts and is a hero member - about to go to legendary in the coming weeks / months ... now before any of you carryo on about changing passwords regularly and all that - i agree and am totally devoted to changing 'simplistic' passwords ... not ones that require brute force with decryption algorithms and a farm of hash to crack the passwords ... so to move on with the story ...

more than all that - the chrysophylax profile is also is the authority profile for the granite thread AND the dbm thread ( the two projects i currenty have ) and was about to take control of the other coin we have just adopted - ozziecoin ...

when the unsuccessful attempt to log in was tried three times - i attempted to change passwords via email ...

the email was sent from bct to my email address - and i followed the instructions to the 'change password' link - only to have them as a private question - which i have forgotten the answer to also ...

i didnt think that was much of an issue - except that as soon as the submit button was clicked - i receieved the following message ...


now this shows three things ...

1 - the security measures that bct have in place are brief and not very descriptive ...
2 - the security measures that bct have in place are active ...
3 - the security measures that bct have in place work ...

now i proceeded to send an email to the above email address to theymos - and will see what happens in the following couple of days ... being an easter weekend - i would assume this may take a little more time so ill leave it till mid to end of next week ...

if i havent received a response by then - ill message mprep and see what suggestion he / she will advise of what can be done ...

a three year hero profile like mine should NEVER be allowed to go to waste ( as i know many of you have had profiles lost that are much older than that again ) - and there should be various countermeasures to allow the official owner of the account to prove themselves ( like knowing or remebering the last private messages before the lockout - which in my case was the 23rd march 2016 ) ...

but again - we will see what happens with the responses i get ...

i will keep you all informed of what happnes with this through this profile ive now started ( which is the short version of my name anyway ) ...

as for the update so far ...

the move is being finalized on the 28th march 2016 ( a couple of days away ) which means i will be on and offline here for the next few days - only to be completely offline for a few days while i set up house in the new premises ... this means that i will be only messaging when necessary - and any of those of you that needed my attention before this happened via pm ( there were about 7 pms in all - i only got to answer one ) will need to send a pm to this current profile - until i can resolve this issue with theymos ( and mprep if possible ) - to get back into my official profile ...

thefarm will be down and will not be back in to production until another residence for it can be found - and am currently in the process of looking for a small warehouse for its growth and redesign and development ... that will happen end of next week when i have personally settled into my ( partner and i ) new residence ...

i will be posting this message in all three forums that are granite based - AND - the mining forums i usually frequent ( like spmod and tpruvot thread ) ...

much appreciated for all your support thus far - and hope to be back online soon with my proper profile ...

#crysx

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i still havent heard from the people at bct - so im working with this account until i can get my other account back ...

mt777 - would luv to catch up on skype again ... im a little more settled with the move and now looking for a new place to 'home' thefarm ( and thegrid ) ...

tanx ...

#crysx

You must be kidding, a cryptocurrency without official block explorer?

Many users (including me) use headless Linux client (Mastertraderd) which DOES NOT HAVE a block explorer built-in.

Also in many cases built-in block explorer (which use local block chain instance) is useless as its output cannot be compared to anything.

All those facts should be obvious for anyone being here for at least a year, but I see they are a mystery.

Any idea what had happened to the block explorer? Is there any working one?

The catastrophe is not "waiting to happen", it has already happened. And it's perpetuated every day with the absurdity that is the 10% a month staking rate. What a waste.

DC, I know this seemed easy, familiar territory, but your efforts deserve so much better...

The nicest thing about the world we live in, and especially about btctalk, is we all are given the opportunity to judge things as we see fit. You see catastrophe waiting to happen, I see potential. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it all plays out.

And quite honestly, I'm glad you are sharing your concerns, because that's the best purpose of this forum. It gives people all of the information they need to make decisions about what to invest in. I'll continue to work and share my progress and you can continue to push us to improve our offering. Maybe we'll all win.

Oh I can tell you EXACTLY why: you are responding because you think you have a good, positive answer to one of my criticisms. The 90% premine. "If he touches it, i'll retire my code immediately ". Now isn't that just peachy? So instead of one individual controlling over 90% it will be TWO individuals.  Both bent on bein 100% honest and not to cover their expenses and get a bit of compensation for their work, right? oh and by the way, Rich, by hos own admissions, has already "touched the premine" to "help with the expenses... even as t these levels of non-volume.

But since you make the best possible argument AGAINST the project, lets dig a bit: your main interest, concern, etc. Is the application, toshi desk which you hope will be adopted and subscribed to I n big numbers. Well, most of what td offers was already on your website. For free. How many subs did you have? That would be as good starting point... but lets be real generous and assume that people will buy the white platform and in an epic act of belief, that they would accept the use of MTR as the only form of payment (you cannot really believe that, can you? Really? Why?). That would put a lot of MTR out there, right? Wonderful! Lots of demand, right? Well sorry but no, WRONG. Because the more MTR out there, the WORSE actually because many many more coins would be staking at the absurd 10% monthly rate (which you forgot conveniently to mention), therefore flooding the market with many more coins than will be necessary to cover the most optimist need imaginable. And that's being deliriously optimistic because, really, why would anyone want to purchase toshi desk to begin with and, much less, a copy/paste hackjob of a coin like MTR, that brings absolutely nothing to the table, doesnt add -and subtracts a lot- any value to toshi desk?  Oh wait, later on you will code into it some kind of "smart contract" that would make all the difference, right? Not enough of those already there, right?

Look DC, I know you mean well. And I know it's only human to be enticed seeing those coins Rich pays you grow exponentially month to month. But I  know you are intelligent enough to see by now that this is a catastrophe already happened with no possible way to any progress as long as those fundamental absurdities -the premine and the 10% monthly- remain in place.

Oh and not only I dont have anything against Rich, I actually like his wavering -yes, wavering- determination.  It is just that this whole idea, sadly, is simply terrible. And the plan followed so far, beyond terrible; it's an abomination.

Hey DcGirl,

Thanks for giving this valuable respons. So far I was kind of skeptical towards the development team of MTR, but the way you answered these accusations gives me confidence. You speak professional and clear. Keep up the good work, I'll patiently await the results.

Absolutely Rich.

I am watching the bleedout of Crypto slow; The pairing of BTC and Ethereum; their divergence patterns and the general health of Crypto starting to get a pulse.
Waiting for the Jul30 buildup and late year traction.

I do want everything to be in place though for Toshidesk ... so migration of moneys, coins and interest can pass through toshidesk.

The hope for that is surely there since the capability of being a true platform is still superior.
We get a narrow shot though if we want to take and hold pole position in the arena.

Remember the larger the wealth migration then the larger the deals and tools and VC come in.
So Toshi must take pole position early for a buyout or a posture if the Crypto market follows suit of the currencies markets and other markets before it.

I have been through several of these migrations - so I am well versed on what will happen and what to do.

I suspect this one will be narrower and have the SEC in it faster than the previous ones. (I think we are less than 18 Mos before stricter rules set in)
So a "keep it clean" and don't miss the "wild west" of deals both must be adhered to.

Thank you so much DC Girl for your reply.

I have respected you for years and hope to be of some service here since I am well vested.

DC - “In my mind the value of MTR will be dependent on the success of ToshiDesk as as platform that people pay for, as MTR will be the only currency accepted for memberships. So the real key, to me, is "how are we going to attract a large enough audience for ToshiDesk?" (MTR is also the currency used for tipping, but I think memberships is the main revenue source)

Catallaxy - I completely understand and see the issue -  But want more demand side econ and velocity of money in MTR via some strategic method and perhaps value pairing.

DC – “Most cryptocurrencies/coins travel the same path - they generate interest, then focus on "usage" - primarily trying to find places where people can spend the coins. Almost none of them have succeeded, as the real "usage" is - how can I trade this for as much BTC as possible? Even Ethereum (which I love from a technical perspective) has made little progress in being used for anything other than speculation. So I think we're on the right path with designing and delivering something that our coin can be used for.”

Catallaxy – Indeed. Usage is the golden chalice of Crypto. And that usage is built into Toshidesk to absorbe MTR. However I want to see an economy.

Catallaxy -
Just last night I was talking with a dear friend (David Z) about creating an economy inside of another coin. WE worked through a rough in less than ½ hour on how to do that. It will take some time but once you create an economy and can change a coin from simple migratory wealth to product and usage … then you can create demand and velocity of money. I would love to share my ideas.

Catallaxy -
I am waiting to see the build-up of Crypro towards Jul30 and the Late year traction to see where any of these things are going.

DC - This is a very important discussion and would love to hear your thoughts, concerns and suggestions.

Catallaxy – It really is … I wonder if a pegging algorithm might not work … It would take some explaining and we might already be doing it in another coin … so it is new stuff and exciting … I’ll throw a line to Rich and see what we can figure out.

Awesome! You have confirmed your e-mail address!! COOL!!!!!! THANK YOU FOR AMAZING SCREENSHOT 

Community,

www.MasterTraderCoin.com should be back up soon!



Read more about why it went down for a bit.

https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx/9305/5/new-icann-whois-validation-process

When I updated the hosting package, because it was a "change" - I had to verify my contacts once again.

This has been done, and www.MasterTraderCoin.com should be back up soon.

Will be updating the content on there as some of it is outdated.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

George,


DcGirl knocked it right on the head here.

We spoke months back about our plan to market with your ideas.

We also spoke about how you would be compensated.

Lets continue where we left off.

I will be on Skype later if you wish to catch up.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

Not sure why I'm responding, but anyway...

It's obvious you have a problem with Rich, and a problem with the distribution of MTR, and nothing I say will change that, so I won't even try. But, the rest of your argument - why only MTR, for example. Let's make that a wider example and ask that about every coin. Why would anyone want to use any coin to purchase anything? And if there's no reason anyone would, well, why are we all here?

Is there any value in an "in-house" currency anywhere? Like an in-house currency for platforms like Twitch or Minecraft? That all depends on the size of the audience. Now, I don't ever expect ToshiDesk to have an audience that's more than a tiny fraction of those, as the crypto world is small. But suppose it does gain wider use, by branching into a white-label situation where it is embedded into multiple sites (the first of which we are currently negotiating). And suppose we decide we want to continue to have MTR be the in-house currency for it. All that does is grows the market for the coin. And  I would imagine it has the potential to grow the interest in speculation for the coin as well.

I don't expect that any of this will "convince" you of anything as your agenda is pretty clear, but the rest of the community might be interested in what I say. I didn't join this project because of MTR, I joined it because I saw and still see potential in the application. But I do see potential for MTR to grow along with it, and have "dreams" of where MTR can go - technically - to use more advanced blockchain technologies that will also expand its value. That's a discussion for the future, though.

As far as the "he controls 90%" argument - yes, he does control the keys to that, and yes, he could dump at any time. But I control the source code for the application. I'll pull that in a minute if he doesn't do what he agreed when I first agreed to work on this - to use the premine only for purposes that would grow the value of the coin.  We may never find that necessary to do, and could destroy the premine, or we could just keep it sitting on the sideline. But it's not something I expect to change any time soon.

I do not agree.

Once again: everything in this abomination is at the whim of Territo or whatever his name is. Only MTR accepted? Why? Why not BTC or, indeed, fiat. If people were to see any value at all -which they will not- like everything else out there you can pay for it with plastic, with fiat in cash or with digital currency. Why would a platform that has always been conceived as a subscription based tool be any different.  There's no real marriage here and the only binding tie is the whim of Territo who, if it were to have any success -and it will not, because it is a terrible idea-, would logically want to at least get his investment back and some profits to show for many many months of efforts... MTR is a copy/paste clone, a joke really at 90% Territo owned and sraking at 10% a month. With nothing whatsoever behind it.
Worthless.

I'm sure Rich wants to respond to this, but so do I as I feel its a critical question. In my mind the value of MTR will be dependent on the success of ToshiDesk as as platform that people pay for, as MTR will be the only currency accepted for memberships. So the real key, to me, is "how are we going to attract a large enough audience for ToshiDesk?" (MTR is also the currency used for tipping, but I think memberships is the main revenue source)

The platform itself is important - do we have the features that will attract customers? I think we're close as we've made major strides. But more important is whether we have the partnerships we need. We have a few already - Etna is a big one and they plan to promote us, so that's a step in the right direction. We are also negotiating for another partnership right now that will really step things up if we can pull it off. We hope to be able to announce that soon.

Most cryptocurrencies/coins travel the same path - they generate interest, then focus on "usage" - primarily trying to find places where people can spend the coins. Almost none of them have succeeded, as the real "usage" is - how can I trade this for as much BTC as possible? Even Ethereum (which I love from a technical perspective) has made little progress in being used for anything other than speculation. So I think we're on the right path with designing and delivering something that our coin can be used for.

This is a very important discussion and would love to hear your thoughts, concerns and suggestions.

Been away for a while. Still awaiting the bleedout of the altmarket to slow and stop b4 promotional efforts therein.
What steps have been made to marry value of MTR to Toshidesk?

If no real steps to pair their value then Toshidesk news is not relevant. (Fee based services cannot create an economy in MTR worth a shoit.)

What else is in the works to pair their value ... MTR and Toshidesk ?

If nothing then MTR can only die. What a waste too since pairing value could be great leverage.


Just curious ... because without a paired value then I don't care about Toshidesk; since I would gain nothing by it's success.
(Except the platform itself)


Catallaxy - George