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Topic: Announcement - ASIC mining processor by Butterfly Labs - page 10. (Read 227503 times)

legendary
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If the photo of the BFL ASIC unit running at 25gh is real, Then there is a Major issue with the unit
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=755&d=1364793240
122 Hardware Faults in 43minutes is NOT a good sign
43 minutes of 25GH/s = ~15,017 1diff shares
122 = ~0.8%
Yes that's high - but, well, when you use the wrong software, who knows what problems you'll find Tongue
That software bricks Avalons, who knows what it does to BFL SC's Tongue
legendary
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If the photo of the BFL ASIC unit running at 25gh is real, Then there is a Major issue with the unit

122 Hardware Faults in 43minutes is NOT a good sign
sr. member
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So who actually decides the winner? When is this gonna get sorted out?
legendary
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Not worth anything. BFL has not delivered its product. The bet is WON. "Butterfly Labs will not ship" before April 1.
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I'm wondering if BFL had/has a vetted interested in said bet with the way they're acting, i.e. going out of their way to post within a certain time frame. Remember, this occurred at the midnight hour, KC local time, and clearly at the KC facility on the same workbench as shown in the YT video. They could've easily called it a night early being Easter Sunday, resuming the task Monday morning. Odd!

~Bruno K~

I think it's rather obvious that Josh has bet a good sum on delivering before april Smiley
legendary
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I'm wondering if BFL had/has a vetted interested in said bet with the way they're acting, i.e. going out of their way to post within a certain time frame. Remember, this occurred at the midnight hour, KC local time, and clearly at the KC facility on the same workbench as shown in the YT video. They could've easily called it a night early being Easter Sunday, resuming the task Monday morning. Odd!

~Bruno K~
legendary
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My 2 satoshi  on the bet:   Butterfly has not shipped, the product is not complete, they didn't win the bet.

However. I do think there is enough 'slimy gray area' in the terms of the bet that they I can dishonestly and sneakily say that they did fulfill it.

But the bets aside, the question for me (as a Ava. batch 3 preorder dude) is how far they actually are from shipping now.

It's tough to say exactly how much, but it does seem BFL is making progress now, and near the end goal.  I'm going to say they are actually going to be really done and really shipping in the first week of May. Having what they have is still a ways off of having the working production model and being able to build en masse.

Thank god I have no money in BTL or the bet. It's been amusing for me. If I had money in the BFL pot I'd probably be going absolute ape-shit insane!

legendary
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By this same reasoning I could say that Avalon shipped earlier than January 20th.

I simply had Yifu hold it for me as he tested and transported it to his shipping department where it was "hosted" on the "test bench". Good for me, I later decided I wanted it to be shipped to my residence in another nation.


....Yes....that is right. Avalon shipped way before January 20th.
legendary
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Picture was posted at 1:36 AM EST.  96 minutes too late.

Reported hashrate is below 75% of the advertised hashrate, if Luke ordered a Big Single.

Supposedly the pictured device has not, in fact, been shipped to Luke, and is actually still at BFL, with the picture having been taken by Josh.

In the 2 actual terms of the bet a time zone was not specified.  You cannot add specifics to a bet after the fact.

Luke ordered a little single and even stated quite a few times that this is a little single.
25/30 > 75%

The unit shipped from BFL to Josh's hosting facility where Luke is in full control of the unit.   A company can hand deliver an item and it still counts as shipped.





To make that argument you would have to show that the finished product is viable and useful.

Otherwise, you could slap a blank PCB on the table in front of contracted labor who purchased a unit and claim that this product is "shipped".

Claiming "it works" and it is finished and shipped is just....dumb.

It is incomplete, unstable, "shipped" at BFL's facility or those run by a BFL employee while the person "receiving it" (Luke) is in another nation and claims it has yet to be shipped "to him" via a courier to the nation of his residence.

donator
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Picture was posted at 1:36 AM EST.  96 minutes too late.

Reported hashrate is below 75% of the advertised hashrate, if Luke ordered a Big Single.

Supposedly the pictured device has not, in fact, been shipped to Luke, and is actually still at BFL, with the picture having been taken by Josh.

In the 2 actual terms of the bet a time zone was not specified.  You cannot add specifics to a bet after the fact.

Luke ordered a little single and even stated quite a few times that this is a little single.
25/30 > 75%

The unit shipped from BFL to Josh's hosting facility where Luke is in full control of the unit.   A company can hand deliver an item and it still counts as shipped.




donator
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Kim's BFL ASIC just arrived:



that's Kim Jong-un & not Kim Dotcom btw, here's his though:

sr. member
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Picture was posted at 1:36 AM EST.  96 minutes too late.

Reported hashrate is below 75% of the advertised hashrate, if Luke ordered a Big Single.

Supposedly the pictured device has not, in fact, been shipped to Luke, and is actually still at BFL, with the picture having been taken by Josh.

Not only that.. this is NOT shipping ! Shipping means customers getting ordered retail units. I don't get whats there to debate about this.

What we saw is, if real, a working prototype in near final stage. A huge step nonetheless.
legendary
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Butterfly Labs will not ship ASIC-based Bitforce SC products before April 2013

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Picture was posted at 1:36 AM EST.  96 minutes too late.

Reported hashrate is below 75% of the advertised hashrate, if Luke ordered a Big Single.

Supposedly the pictured device has not, in fact, been shipped to Luke, and is actually still at BFL, with the picture having been taken by Josh.

is an April Fool's joke that post.  Cool Undecided
legendary
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Picture was posted at 1:36 AM EST.  96 minutes too late.

Reported hashrate is below 75% of the advertised hashrate, if Luke ordered a Big Single.

Supposedly the pictured device has not, in fact, been shipped to Luke, and is actually still at BFL, with the picture having been taken by Josh.
legendary
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Butterfly Labs will not ship ASIC-based Bitforce SC products before April 2013

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It says: "The device must achieve at least 75% of its advertised hashrate."

So the result of this bet will be: No

I bought a BFL SC, but I bet on NO, even as far back as October.
I would rather lose.
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It says: "The device must achieve at least 75% of its advertised hashrate."

So the result of this bet will be: No
legendary
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legendary
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My sister works for an outfit (Rassah knows which one) that ships products to convenience stores like 7-11. She recently got promoted from being on the floor to an office-type position scheduling the fleet of drivers. I asked her how many emails she handles a day in that capacity. She said 2-3 hundred, of which she said she could handle more, for she's bored shitless and prefers to be back on the floor where it's more challenging, albeit pays less.

I asked her how she does it, and she said it's easy. I answer all that I know the answer to, and the ones I don't, I know which person should know the answer and pass the email to them. She also said a couple times she's sent to an incorrect person, but they relayed the email to correct department to make sure the concern is addressed properly.

And my sister's an idiot! Not in the derogatory sense, but knowing her command of the English language, making the classical mistakes we've all seen here (allot, their/there/they're, etc.). Yet, she handles the position well enough, allowing the system to function properly. Out of the pool of people wanting the position, she was the most qualified.

Now, if I'm not mistaken, there's no less than 6 people doing customer service at BFL. 500 emails a day divided by 6 people is... Divide that by 8 hours, and you have...

Again, not a diss, and did not take the time to proofread this post.

~Bruno K~

You can also write a generic email for certain types of common queries and mail merge it - so you can literally reply to 100s of emails with the same type of query at the same time (the program fills in user-specific data).  This allows you plenty of time to write individual responses to the few emails which actually need them.

I just asked my sister if she uses generic responses, and she asked me...wait for it...what are generic responses? I told you! (see main post above) After I briefly explained to her what they were, she seemed to agree that that could work, but most the time the questions and concerns consist of unique situations, therefore she's forced to respond to them personally. BTW, she does this task while using the phone when talking to drivers and vendors. And she's still bored shitless. She's planning on taking some craft project to work with her so she can work on it during the free time.

Apologies for the aside above, and now the following. She asked a co-worker if there's anything else she could do in the office. The co-worker who does half the amount of work and gets paid more than my sister (assumed, due to position) told her no and to keep her mouth shut.
legendary
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Avalon "SHIPPED" 4.5 weeks ago!  Only 2 (maybe 3?) still delivered.
Actually that should be at least 4 units, you underestimate by 50%...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/my-impression-of-avalon-machine-cooling-info-updated-145885

More to arrive in mainland China soon I guess. As for international deliveries crossing customs borders, yes, nothing
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Better bet is...

I don't think I could bet on any of em right now.

*sighs*
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