Announcement - ASIC mining processor by Butterfly Labs - page 9.

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Okey Dokey Lokey

Quote from: peasant on April 08, 2013, 02:31:45 PM

From the information available it looks like development started in March 2013. The rest of the time before that seems to consist of Marketing and developing those sexy cases. Cheesy

And conning everyone into investing without giving them SHIT FUCK ALL
Goddamned con artist on thier lead staff Nailed everyone

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From the information available it looks like development on the board and chips started in March 2013. The rest of the time before that seems to consist of marketing and developing those sexy cases. Cheesy

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Quote from: Gator-hex on April 08, 2013, 01:50:10 PM

Shipping always starts the last half of whatever the current month is...

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"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of October 2012."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of November 2012."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of December 2012."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of January 2013."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of February 2013."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of March 2013."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of April 2013."

FTFY.

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Really looking forward to all my BFL ASICs

This is an excellent exercise in patience.

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Okey Dokey Lokey

Quote from: Gator-hex on April 08, 2013, 01:50:10 PM

Quote from: Frizz23 on April 08, 2013, 01:12:52 PM

Would it be possible to get a new shipping estimate from an official BFL employee?

I didn't find up to date information on the BFL website.

Asking on the official BFL forums, I only got trolled & ridiculed, no valuable information was given to me.

Shipping always starts the last half of whatever the current month is...

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"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of January 2013."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of February 2013."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of March 2013."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of April 2013."

Also from the horses FAQ mouth.. Any orders made in April 2013 + 4-6 Months for delivery! Wink

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showwiki.php?title=FAQ:Real+Shipping+Estimate&do=article#post22854

Question:
How long before I receive my units?

Answer:
Could be 4-6 months if you ordered in early April!
This years april or next years? Butterfly labs is a Full YEAR behind schedual, They fucking conned everyone into investing without dividends or shares. FUCKING THIEVES.

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Quote from: Frizz23 on April 08, 2013, 01:12:52 PM

Would it be possible to get a new shipping estimate from an official BFL employee?

I didn't find up to date information on the BFL website.

Asking on the official BFL forums, I only got trolled & ridiculed, no valuable information was given to me.

Shipping always starts the last half of whatever the current month is...

Quote

"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of January 2013."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of February 2013."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of March 2013."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of April 2013."

Also from the horses FAQ mouth.. Any orders made in April 2013 + 4-6 Months for delivery! Wink

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showwiki.php?title=FAQ:Real+Shipping+Estimate&do=article#post22854

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Quote from: Frizz23 on April 08, 2013, 01:12:52 PM

Would it be possible to get a new shipping estimate from an official BFL employee?

I didn't find up to date information on the BFL website.

Asking on the official BFL forums, I only got trolled & ridiculed, no valuable information was given to me.

It's right on the order page.

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Pre-order Terms: Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of April 2013. Products are shipped according to placement in the order queue, and delivery may take 2 months or more after order. All sales are final.

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Quote from: creativex on April 08, 2013, 01:29:05 PM

Quote from: MXRider on April 08, 2013, 01:18:49 PM

Quote from: Frizz23 on April 08, 2013, 01:12:52 PM

Would it be possible to get a new shipping estimate from an official BFL employee?

I didn't find up to date information on the BFL website.

Asking on the official BFL forums, I only got trolled & ridiculed, no valuable information was given to me.

I wonder why.

They say in April.

Right. ...and in a couple weeks they'll say "May, maybe sooner, but expect shipping in May".

2014?

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Quote from: MXRider on April 08, 2013, 01:18:49 PM

Quote from: Frizz23 on April 08, 2013, 01:12:52 PM

Would it be possible to get a new shipping estimate from an official BFL employee?

I didn't find up to date information on the BFL website.

Asking on the official BFL forums, I only got trolled & ridiculed, no valuable information was given to me.

I wonder why.

They say in April.

Right. ...and in a couple weeks they'll say "May, maybe sooner, but expect shipping in May".

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Quote from: Frizz23 on April 08, 2013, 01:12:52 PM

Would it be possible to get a new shipping estimate from an official BFL employee?

I didn't find up to date information on the BFL website.

Asking on the official BFL forums, I only got trolled & ridiculed, no valuable information was given to me.

I wonder why.

They say in April.

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Quote from: Frizz23 on April 08, 2013, 01:12:52 PM

Would it be possible to get a new shipping estimate from an official BFL employee?

I didn't find up to date information on the BFL website.

Asking on the official BFL forums, I only got trolled & ridiculed, no valuable information was given to me.

There is an algorithm for calculating the current estimated shipping date for BFL ASICs.

Today + 1 month = ETA.

You can use that equation at any moment in time to find out exactly when BFL is going to ship.

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Would it be possible to get a new shipping estimate from an official BFL employee?

I didn't find up to date information on the BFL website.

Asking on the official BFL forums, I only got trolled & ridiculed, no valuable information was given to me.

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Quote from: Littleshop on April 02, 2013, 10:36:37 PM

Quote from: Zotia on April 02, 2013, 09:36:16 PM

Quote from: ziomik on April 01, 2013, 04:03:57 PM

Not worth anything. BFL has not delivered its product. The bet is WON. "Butterfly Labs will not ship" before April 1.

I agree, but betsofbitco.in said it was a draw!

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=701

WTF??

I have no money in this. Clearly by the bet rules BFL did not ship. I can not see how betsofbitco.in maintains credibility with this decision.

The primary reason is the title of the bet itself and the word SHIP. Nothing has shipped. Case closed. Beyond that:

"Before April 1st 2013, at least one BFL customer with a bitcointalk.org forum account established prior to the bet's opening date shall post detailed and credible photos of the device on the forum, including photos of it operating, and report its hashrate. This customer cannot be a BFL employee. "

I fail to understand how betsofbitcoin can claim both that titles DO count in bets, and that this one was a draw. Clearly BFL did not ship anything. Total loss of credibility.

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Quote from: Zotia on April 02, 2013, 09:36:16 PM

Quote from: ziomik on April 01, 2013, 04:03:57 PM

Not worth anything. BFL has not delivered its product. The bet is WON. "Butterfly Labs will not ship" before April 1.

I agree, but betsofbitco.in said it was a draw!

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=701

WTF??

I have no money in this. Clearly by the bet rules BFL did not ship. I can not see how betsofbitco.in maintains credibility with this decision.

The primary reason is the title of the bet itself and the word SHIP. Nothing has shipped. Case closed. Beyond that:

"Before April 1st 2013, at least one BFL customer with a bitcointalk.org forum account established prior to the bet's opening date shall post detailed and credible photos of the device on the forum, including photos of it operating, and report its hashrate. This customer cannot be a BFL employee. "

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Quote from: ziomik on April 01, 2013, 04:03:57 PM

Not worth anything. BFL has not delivered its product. The bet is WON. "Butterfly Labs will not ship" before April 1.

I agree, but betsofbitco.in said it was a draw!

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=701

WTF??

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this seems to show they had a fan propped up next to it (at least during this video):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C4bgho5JSI

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Quote from: gyverlb on April 02, 2013, 09:47:38 AM

[...]
Surprisingly the board seems to be running fine for quite some time (at least according to the graph on eligius for the mining address used I saw earlier, can't find it again).

Here we go: http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1CdcYVP4T4hjHwt353pEnGHrigeDLvuvZL

Probably better to have it in more than one thread I suppose.

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Quote from: ShadesOfMarble on April 02, 2013, 08:50:17 AM

How do you dissipate 180 W with such a small heatsink w/o active cooling (fan)?
That's not possible. Or the chips are running @ 150+ °C, so they will die within a few days. Or hours.

According to Luke-Jr there is a fan not shown on the picture, but I agree :

there is no forced airflow through the fins (the fan can only be on the side as it isn't on the picture)
the heatsink fins are tightly spaced (optimized for high airflow)

So even if there is a fan it can't be very effective. I can't imagine the heatsink being anywhere good enough to keep chips generating 100+W cool. If you ever had a 100W CPU crunching data with a fan failure even with a case fan just next to the CPU you know this can't last long.

180W in this space is just a fire hazard. Surprisingly the board seems to be running fine for quite some time (at least according to the graph on eligius for the mining address used I saw earlier, can't find it again).
So either something is missing or a large part of the power is dissipated in the power brick (someone should check how hot it is).

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How do you dissipate 180 W with such a small heatsink w/o active cooling (fan)?
That's not possible. Or the chips are running @ 150+ °C, so they will die within a few days. Or hours.

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With no fans on there, I'm assuming the heatsink is doing its job. Maybe it really is just the board itself drawing too much power. I'm not sure why they went with an aluminum finned sink when the idea is compactness. I guess with the original power estimates it would have been plenty and much lighter.

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