[Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] - page 12.

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Quote from: Spekulatius on January 14, 2013, 10:51:26 AM

Since they are both "official", which date is right?

Your OP in this thread:

Quote from: BitSyncom on October 24, 2012, 03:58:10 AM

While the competition promised early delivery dates but kept pushing them back. Avalon instead gave an very conservative estimate but now is scheduled to ship even earlier at Jan. 14th 2013.

Or your count down on http://www.avalon-asics.com/? (Monday, 21st of January 2013)

You didn't finish reading, the second post on the front page as more information...

It has now been fixed. a small oversight. Unlike somebody, the difference in shipping date is only a few days and not a few months.

It has been changed to 18-20th, the countdown timer ends on 12:00:00am 21th.

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Quote from: Syke on January 14, 2013, 11:04:47 AM

Nice trolling.

Avalon facts are this:

http://forum.bitsyn.com/viewtopic.php?id=5

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SCHEDULE:

Sample Batch ( about 10 units ) at the end of December, 2012
- video demonstration of final product in operation can be seen at this time.

Did they ever provide the video in december that is mentioned on the bitsyn forum? If that was missed i would think that would be significant.. especially to those with large investments into the preorders..

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Quote from: Inaba on January 14, 2013, 11:02:07 AM

You're right... they haven't provided any evidence they have a product other than some documentation.

Also sounds very familiar....

In the end I hope most vendors make good on their promises ! Better for Bitcoin !

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This is crazy! How is one supposed to keep oversight with that many "official" dates?

Clean up Avalon, because It's a mess!™

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Quote from: Inaba on January 14, 2013, 10:52:58 AM

Huh... 14th, then the 19th, now it's the 21st?

Interesting...

Nice trolling.

Avalon facts are this:

http://forum.bitsyn.com/viewtopic.php?id=5

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Shipping will start from February 2013 following the order sequence.

Their initial shipping date was February. The fact that they are slipping on their early delivery is nothing like BFL:

~~October~~ missed
~~November~~ missed
~~December~~ missed
~~January~~ missed
February still to be missed

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You're right... they haven't provided any evidence they have a product other than some documentation.

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Quote from: Inaba on January 14, 2013, 10:52:58 AM

Huh... 14th, then the 19th, now it's the 21st?

Interesting...

Sounds a lot like October, then November, then December, then January, now it's February.... yet it is so different in soooooo many ways Wink

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Huh... 14th, then the 19th, now it's the 21st?

Interesting...

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Since they are both "official", which date is right?

Your OP in this thread:

Quote from: BitSyncom on October 24, 2012, 03:58:10 AM

While the competition promised early delivery dates but kept pushing them back. Avalon instead gave an very conservative estimate but now is scheduled to ship even earlier at Jan. 14th 2013.

Or your count down on http://www.avalon-asics.com/? (Monday, 21st of January 2013)

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from where are you shipping? Beijing? Can I come and pick them up?

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I also noticed in my order 200000504:

That my address was doubled in the registration. I corrected it in my account settings but do not know if you guys will process them from the website or some kind of paper work that was generated a while back. Please check on this and let me know if the address line isn't doubled in the paperwork for shipping.

Good luck on being the first to release!

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Quote from: BitSyncom on January 14, 2013, 01:22:38 AM

Quote from: anti76 on January 14, 2013, 01:15:38 AM

I used to send scanned documents to pay warrants 200,000,846.
Status of the order has not changed, the letters from the scans or who did not reply, sent to the address: [email protected], yifu.guo @ avalon-asic.com

Order # Date Ship To Order Total Status
200000846 11/24/12 --------- $8,159.94 Pending Wire View Order

The wire came in on the 11th of this month, a month plus late... I'm aware of this order, but due to it's nature being two wire transfers it did not complete automatically. This matter will be addressed.

@ Yifu

Could you add --> [email protected], yifu.guo @ avalon-asic.com <--- these contact addresses to your signature?

It would make it easier to know who and how to contact.

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Second, I know you aren't going to look at a gift horse in the mouth. But why is this guys wire so damn late? This month it was recieved?

Are you sure he didn't make a "ghost order" and then paid for it after all the ASIC drama was said and done? I thought there was a definite time limit to wire transfers being accepted?

You should look into this issue as there are probably folks right now who are going to send in wire transfers this late and claim order numbers which they never actually intended to pay for before the deadline in early October 2012.

If you don't look into it you might find out you'll get more than 300 orders to fulfill.

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Quote from: BitSyncom on January 14, 2013, 01:22:38 AM

Quote from: anti76 on January 14, 2013, 01:15:38 AM

I used to send scanned documents to pay warrants 200,000,846.
Status of the order has not changed, the letters from the scans or who did not reply, sent to the address: [email protected], yifu.guo @ avalon-asic.com

Order # Date Ship To Order Total Status
200000846 11/24/12 --------- $8,159.94 Pending Wire View Order

The wire came in on the 11th of this month, a month plus late... I'm aware of this order, but due to it's nature being two wire transfers it did not complete automatically. This matter will be addressed.

that is, now it will be paid to the status?
and on what email send letters to meet me?

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Quote from: anti76 on January 14, 2013, 01:15:38 AM

I used to send scanned documents to pay warrants 200,000,846.
Status of the order has not changed, the letters from the scans or who did not reply, sent to the address: [email protected], yifu.guo @ avalon-asic.com

Order # Date Ship To Order Total Status
200000846 11/24/12 --------- $8,159.94 Pending Wire View Order

The wire came in on the 11th of this month, a month plus late... I'm aware of this order, but due to it's nature being two wire transfers it did not complete automatically. This matter will be addressed.

anti76

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I used to send scanned documents to pay warrants 200,000,846.
Status of the order has not changed, the letters from the scans or who did not reply, sent to the address: [email protected], yifu.guo @ avalon-asic.com

Order # Date Ship To Order Total Status
200000846 11/24/12 --------- $8,159.94 Pending Wire View Order

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Quote from: cedivad on January 14, 2013, 12:45:52 AM

You are right, it takes 5 minutes to take a reflex plugin the sd card and upload the pictures.
2 minutes using an iPhone.

That's a lot of time to waste.

I will buy BFL. Do someone want to bet against me that Avalon will not ship on time? 100BTC ready here.

Huh. Another BFL groupie who is impressed by some picture of numbers on a display. Who'd have imagined?

You may give Sonny and Josh some of your money but I am less confident that you will actually buy anything in the common sense of the term. Maybe a sore a-hole.

As for betting about Avalon, why should I? I've no idea whether they even have an ASIC much less whether they will ship it on time. They do seem vastly more credible to me than did bASIC and do BFL.

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Quote from: tvbcof on January 13, 2013, 10:47:46 PM

Quote from: 420 on January 13, 2013, 10:14:07 PM

As other's have probably said, if they're just working on theory i.e. never had a working prototype, they won't have a demo model until 24hrs before they're going to ship some

if, which is what they should have done, is run a prototype model of one

of course they should do this and then have much testing etc. before mass producing so maybe up to a week minimum before shipping a batch they should have a working product; why not show it off?

Perhaps because, as I mentioned above, it would show nothing. It would, in fact, be mainly a waste of time and Avalon may not have a compelling interest in impressing the segment of the community who would be be impressed by such a feat.

Again though, it would not be big effort or waste much time, so why not? An ominous reason could be that it would be admissible, incontrovertible, and documented evidence that they were running a scam if that happens to be the case.

You are right, it takes 5 minutes to take a reflex plugin the sd card and upload the pictures.
2 minutes using an iPhone.

That's a lot of time to waste.

I will buy BFL. Do someone want to bet against me that Avalon will not ship on time? 100BTC ready here.

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Quote from: 420 on January 13, 2013, 10:14:07 PM

As other's have probably said, if they're just working on theory i.e. never had a working prototype, they won't have a demo model until 24hrs before they're going to ship some

if, which is what they should have done, is run a prototype model of one

of course they should do this and then have much testing etc. before mass producing so maybe up to a week minimum before shipping a batch they should have a working product; why not show it off?

Perhaps because, as I mentioned above, it would show nothing. It would, in fact, be mainly a waste of time and Avalon may not have a compelling interest in impressing the segment of the community who would be be impressed by such a feat.

Again though, it would not be big effort or waste much time, so why not? An ominous reason could be that it would be admissible, incontrovertible, and documented evidence that they were running a scam if that happens to be the case.

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As other's have probably said, if they're just working on theory i.e. never had a working prototype, they won't have a demo model until 24hrs before they're going to ship some

if, which is what they should have done, is run a prototype model of one

of course they should do this and then have much testing etc. before mass producing so maybe up to a week minimum before shipping a batch they should have a working product; why not show it off?

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Quote from: Bogart on January 13, 2013, 08:12:21 PM

Quote from: tvbcof on January 13, 2013, 08:05:32 PM

Quote from: fcmatt on January 13, 2013, 07:14:22 PM

All this talk of shipping. When are we going to see a simple pic of a board with asic chips actually mining?

An image (or vid) of a box (or pcb) along with a display showing some numbers is not something which would impress _me_ a whole lot.

What would it take to make the suggested exercise be impressive to you? Or have you put much thought into it?

There's really no reason for them to do this now. They're not accepting any new orders for a while, and it's not like they have a credibility problem and need to post something to stop a wave of cancellations.

Personally, I want to be the first to post pics and vid of one, when I receive mine.

There is not much reason for them not to do it either.

But anyway, my point is that it would take a barely competent script monkey about 5 minutes to hack out a mock which would display anything they choose.

A better solution would be to publish a set of nonces shortly after a new piece of data came into existence. Even here, though, someone who was intent on conning people could hook up a collection of lesser gear to work on the problem and pretend that it was their new little ASIC which had produced the results.

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