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Topic: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] - page 13. (Read 155335 times)

legendary
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All this talk of shipping. When are we going to see a simple pic of a board with asic chips actually mining?

An image (or vid) of a box (or pcb) along with a display showing some numbers is not something which would impress _me_ a whole lot.

What would it take to make the suggested exercise be impressive to you?  Or have you put much thought into it?



There's really no reason for them to do this now.  They're not accepting any new orders for a while, and it's not like they have a credibility problem and need to post something to stop a wave of cancellations.

Personally, I want to be the first to post pics and vid of one, when I receive mine.
legendary
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All this talk of shipping. When are we going to see a simple pic of a board with asic chips actually mining?

An image (or vid) of a box (or pcb) along with a display showing some numbers is not something which would impress _me_ a whole lot.

What would it take to make the suggested exercise be impressive to you?  Or have you put much thought into it?

legendary
Activity: 966
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With less than a week to the proclaimed shipment date there is no reason not to show pictures of a PCB or chassis as Avalon's only competitor has done. Unless they don't have a PCB or chassis to show, which is entirely plausible.

I think some of your questions are reasonable.
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With less than a week left, we'll find out soon enough no matter what.
full member
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If we have 1 day for assembly, how long will it be in transit from the assemblers to the Avalon shipping facilities? If the assemblers are close then they could pick up the assembled product. 

They are located in BeiJing China. Arrange shipment is not difficult.


With less than a week to the proclaimed shipment date there is no reason not to show pictures of a PCB or chassis as Avalon's only competitor has done. Unless they don't have a PCB or chassis to show, which is entirely plausible.

I think some of your questions are reasonable.
legendary
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All this talk of shipping. When are we going to see a simple pic of a board with asic chips actually mining?

full member
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PS: everything is on schedule now, our target is to be the first.  Grin

I am not the first to raise this question but I still would like to ask it. I checked www.avalon-asics.com to see what the 'count down clock' said. At the time I checked it was a little over 6 days. So lets look a little closer. If we have 1 day for assembly, how long will it be in transit from the assemblers to the Avalon shipping facilities? If the assemblers are close then they could pick up the assembled product. Otherwise it will take 1 to 3 days, maybe longer, to ship to Avalon for final assembly and shipment to the customer. Now how long will the product burn in be, 24 hours?

So that leaves virtually no time for quality control testing not to mention SRRC certification but Chinese companies don't seam to comply with their own countries laws when shipping outside their boarders. It appears to me that the Avalon development team is relaying solely on computer simulations of their product to be 100% accurate. Computer simulations are never wrong, right? With only days to do full quality control testing of the hardware and software purchasers of Avalon's products can expect a high failure rate and a large warranty return rate. Not to mention long shipping delays from country to country and lack of replacement parts to fix warranty issues. At which time you will not be eligible for a refund and stuck with an inferior product. But what can I say, China is home to the inferior product.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94HTIueOuDQ

On Avalon's website they claim to have 10+ years ASIC experience. It's now time for Avalon to tell their customers and the community which Avalon employees have ASIC experience and how much each Avalon employee is claimed to have. But I suspect that full disclosure of claims made on their website will be an issue that will be avoided. I surmise they will claim that a Master's Degree is equivalent to 6 years experience. Or maybe if it takes someone 10 years to complete a 6 year program that could be counter as 10 years experience. Can one really claim taking a university class as experience? Not in my book and not on a job application. Could it be that someone is drinking their own Jonestown Kool Aid?

With less than a week to the proclaimed shipment date there is no reason not to show pictures of a PCB or chassis as Avalon's only competitor has done. Unless they don't have a PCB or chassis to show, which is entirely plausible.

Too bad that China's target is to be first (inferiority complex?), rather than America's where quality is job 1.

Now queuing 300 test dummies.


Edit below made by anonymous admin: note other edits might have been made by cowardly anonymous admins;
Now queuing 300 test dummies, a sacrifice to appease the gods I've angered by continuing to troll this thread... maybe they won't edit the hell out of this post as they promised to do.
hero member
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we discuss the whole process and working together. actually, i will use my previous experience for this project.

PS: everything is on schedule now, our target is to be the first.  Grin

I have full trust in NGZ the cooperation with him and the devices was allways 1+ so the GMP project looks forward for the tradein.

It would be great to have the dimensions and type of the coolingmount since 400W will produce a lot of heat Wink
hero member
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When will the second batch be available? And will the price be the same?
full member
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PS: everything is on schedule now, our target is to be the first.  Grin

No demo? ):
legendary
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I received the package after 9 days.
The second and third time it was 20 days.
why ist there so much different in shipping time (and why does it take so long time (20 days)?)

Regular First Class International Mail can vary a lot like that.  I think sometimes they wait for the pile of mail to get big enough before they send a batch over, so your mailpiece may arrive just as the pile gets full enough to be sent, or when it's still mostly empty and needs to wait.

The Avalons will all be dispatched by DHL Express (or EMS if the customer chooses), both of which should be consistently much faster than First Class Intl Mail.

If mine ships out by DHL on Monday the 21st, I expect I will have it in my hands here in the US on or before Friday the 25th.
legendary
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I received the package after 9 days.
The second and third time it was 20 days.
why ist there so much different in shipping time (and why does it take so long time (20 days)?)

I really don't why. Most of the items I order from China take 20+ days, so the first time was a real surprise.
legendary
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I received the package after 9 days.
The second and third time it was 20 days.
why ist there so much different in shipping time (and why does it take so long time (20 days)?)
hero member
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We will stand and fight.

I'm from Europe and I ordered several times boards from NGZ. I never experienced any problems.
The first time I received the package after 9 days.
The second and third time it was 20 days.

I trust NGZ and I think he knows what's best when it comes to shipping his products to the different parts of the world.

So for what it's worth.. only the best experiences on my part. Smiley

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I am very happy with NGZ as well. But this time he will not be involved in shipping invoices and so on....
BitSyncom will take care of that and he is our contact person.


we discuss the whole process and working together. actually, i will use my previous experience for this project.

PS: everything is on schedule now, our target is to be the first.  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000

I'm from Europe and I ordered several times boards from NGZ. I never experienced any problems.
The first time I received the package after 9 days.
The second and third time it was 20 days.

I trust NGZ and I think he knows what's best when it comes to shipping his products to the different parts of the world.

So for what it's worth.. only the best experiences on my part. Smiley

+1
I am very happy with NGZ as well. But this time he will not be involved in shipping invoices and so on....
BitSyncom will take care of that and he is our contact person.
legendary
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1 BTC =1 BTC
If it is not marked as an engineering sample or demo, you can have great problems on custom because of the missing CE mark!
Or i'm wrong?
there have been a few people in EU that have still bought FPGA's from this company. How have these done this? Perhaps they should share their experiences with this deals (shipping, custom, invoice etc.)...

I'm from Europe and I ordered several times boards from NGZ. I never experienced any problems.
The first time I received the package after 9 days.
The second and third time it was 20 days.

I trust NGZ and I think he knows what's best when it comes to shipping his products to the different parts of the world.

So for what it's worth.. only the best experiences on my part. Smiley
sr. member
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The address we should send questions (and shipping detail confirmations) to is "info[at]avalon-asic.com" , is that right?
sr. member
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BitSyncom,

It is very important for me to sort out the invoicing in advance before shipment happens. I mailed you twice and opened a ticket and still no response. Please reply me when you can.

10X
Best

Maybe the Billing Agreements can be used for this in the account   .
I`m checking every day for the news/response/tiket.

Regards
Thorvald

legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
BitSyncom,

It is very important for me to sort out the invoicing in advance before shipment happens. I mailed you twice and opened a ticket and still no response. Please reply me when you can.

10X
Best
sr. member
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Merit: 251
Avalon ASIC Team
Will tracking numbers be shown on the website order status page or be emailed to customers when they ship?

Well I hope so.

The day it's to arrive I plan to take off from work to receive it in case it requires a signature.

Yes of course, it'll be updated both on the site as well as emailed to you.
legendary
Activity: 966
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Will tracking numbers be shown on the website order status page or be emailed to customers when they ship?

Well I hope so.

The day it's to arrive I plan to take off from work to receive it in case it requires a signature.
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