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Topic: Announcment: Brand-new miner EMIC PowerModule - 5.65 TH/s - page 7. (Read 26333 times)

vip
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Being adventurous I decided to go check out the website. I decided to purchase one just to do it, Just to be the idiot that did it,, Its not allot of btc, and I like to gamble. So I selected one unit, put it in cart, filled out the info billing and shipping, and was asked to pay 1.8351 so in my haste and poor memory I sent 1.8542 minus a 3 cent transaction fee I actually overpaid by around 31 cents. by looking at the transaction in the blockchain they received exactly 1.8541 BTC from me. Not a big deal to me Im not concerned with the overpayment.
Here is what popped up:






And then it just stops there, No email confirmation of anything, No account status, No instruction on how to proceed, when I clicked the return to site button, It simply took me back to the order page as If I have never placed an order and still shows 1 unit in my cart and is prompting me to pay.

I tried the Chat, no ones home and it appears to be partially in Polish.

I emailed every available email on the site referencing the Order ID along with transaction ID and proof of payment.
And I have PM'D The OP of this thread with this issue.

Chances are I just threw away 1.8541 BTC, Im fine with that.

But now, without a doubt I will surely get to the bottom of it.
And for anyone here thats curious, I will post updates.



https://blockchain.info/address/1Q9QH1s92uhv3SawC8BLAsvZaHohkEFTPy

Now we can track it.

BTW, my bogus order number was 403.
hero member
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www.neutroncoin.com
vip
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http://emic.com.pl/pl/okres-swiat-bozego-narodzenia-nowego-roku/

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In addition to announce that during this period our office will be closed. 01/02/2015 back to work. Of course, our system normally takes orders at this time.

And, it's now the weekend, so see you Monday on the 5th. Meanwhile, our ordering system is fully operational. Oopsie! I just remembered that I'm part Chinese, and you'll never guess what holiday is coming up next. Go ahead, take a guess. Assuming you guessed correctly, never fear, for our ordering system will be...wait for it...fully operational.
vip
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http://emic.com.pl/pl/certyfikat-ssl/

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verification e-mail address for verification confirmation link that will be sent by the CA to the e-mail domain (eg .: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] or

If one is going to incorporate the practice of copy&paste into their business model, at the very least verify that any links attached are still active, i.e., http://twojadomena.pl/. This one looks like it's been dead for a while now: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://twojadomena.pl/. Then again, I didn't get the memo depicting that splattering pics of SSL certs on every webpage negates any dead links associated with SSL verbiage.
newbie
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scammmmmmmmmm
legendary
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Edge of my seat.
vip
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I assume you can trust us, because we are transparent about our company as much as possible.

Just theoretically, if something goes wrong and we will not provide our device nor money back, you can just go to the police and tell them: "they took my money". You have got all our data needed. In such case I'm not only need to give all the money back, but also i am going to jail.

This is not the same as: "I sent someone in Internet my money (in Bitcoins!!) and I dont know where this guy is, or how is his name, or anythig. Find him please!". This case in differerent , you know where to find us if somethig will go wrong.

But you are not a trusted supplier. This quote it to mislead visitors to your website. Show us some proof you are even working on a real bitcoin miner.

OK. I changed wording a bit. Is it now better?

P.S. I will review whole website and I will compose new content, according to all you suggestions, just to keep it less confusing and misleading.

Ok do you have any real proof you are working on a miner?

Yes, I can easly prove it, I will provide lot of data right ater new year.

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Name:   emic.com.pl
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Date Registered:   December 23, 2014, 12:34:09 PM
Last Active:   December 26, 2014, 07:54:54 PM

My guess is that this is goin' be some awesome data.
legendary
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I don't know about Colorado (is that minersource.net?), but MAT has a shill in PA (or is it MD? whatever), goes by the name lifeforcepools here. Shilled heavily for MAT, is now "reselling" Hashra hardware (another upstanding ASIC vendor), should definitely get in touch with EMIC.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lifeforcepools-383458
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9343485
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/breaking-news-hashra-100-mhs-scrypt-miner-450-600-watts-864057


lifeforcepools is also jjj0923 who was shilling hard for MAT, in fact was the starter of the MAT thread.

I feel bad for anyone who fell for the MAT scam but we were all in there at the begining warning people to stay away.

Same with this one
legendary
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https://bpip.org
M.A.T. just declared bankruptcy: http://www.wijlimburg.nl/nieuws-overzicht/bitcoinbedrijf-maastricht-bouwbedrijf-van-den-heuvel-landgraaf-en-hanssen-electro-hoensbroek-failliet/
Of course Marc Coumans must have known about and planned for this for a long time. Proving him to be the liar and thief everyone suspected him to be.
The contact of the bureau dealing with this bankruptcy case is: curator mr. C.F.M.P. Spreksel, Wilhelminasingel 63, 6221 BG Maastricht tel. 043-3432859

Happy new year!

/nam

Michal Krawczyszyn is such a marketing genius, he now has the word bankruptcy to go along with the word scam when people search for EMIC while he finds it prudent to not address concerns in a proper light.

Care to guess which entity has/had more transparency, EMIC or MAT? Speaking of MAT, I know of this reseller in Colorado that could visit EMIC's Polish facility, then report back to the community his findings so that he, too, can take money-back guarantee orders. I'm sure this dude I have in mind still has some black arrows in his quiver to shoot EMIC some orders.

I don't know about Colorado (is that minersource.net?), but MAT has a shill in PA (or is it MD? whatever), goes by the name lifeforcepools here. Shilled heavily for MAT, is now "reselling" Hashra hardware (another upstanding ASIC vendor), should definitely get in touch with EMIC.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lifeforcepools-383458
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9343485
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/breaking-news-hashra-100-mhs-scrypt-miner-450-600-watts-864057
vip
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M.A.T. just declared bankruptcy: http://www.wijlimburg.nl/nieuws-overzicht/bitcoinbedrijf-maastricht-bouwbedrijf-van-den-heuvel-landgraaf-en-hanssen-electro-hoensbroek-failliet/
Of course Marc Coumans must have known about and planned for this for a long time. Proving him to be the liar and thief everyone suspected him to be.
The contact of the bureau dealing with this bankruptcy case is: curator mr. C.F.M.P. Spreksel, Wilhelminasingel 63, 6221 BG Maastricht tel. 043-3432859

Happy new year!

/nam

Michal Krawczyszyn is such a marketing genius, he now has the word bankruptcy to go along with the word scam when people search for EMIC while he finds it prudent to not address concerns in a proper light.

Care to guess which entity has/had more transparency, EMIC or MAT? Speaking of MAT, I know of this reseller in Colorado that could visit EMIC's Polish facility, then report back to the community his findings so that he, too, can take money-back guarantee orders. I'm sure this dude I have in mind still has some black arrows in his quiver to shoot EMIC some orders.
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
(pre-review because real and pro review for hardware is "dogie class" one Wink )

My ego likes that this is a thing. It also appreciates scratches and bacon bits.
sr. member
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EOSABC
Lots of people visited BFL...

Yes, and what they see during visit? Josh? No technology, no chips, no miners. (According to first BFL visit - Kano, if I remember correctly).
(I'm not familiar with other manufacture visit.)

We wan't meet Michał and see some technology, samples, chips, production or tap out declaration (some specific information).
I don't want to give them reputation by visit them, but give information to community and future customers that they can decide by them self.
That's all we (local community members) can do for community.

Everyone need's to achieve reputation by them self.
hero member
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Lots of people visited BFL... HashFast... BlackArrow... Bitmine... and where did that leave investors? Given what it takes to be semi reputable here a visit to this outfit won't change much.

Don't forget AMT. Same deal there.
hero member
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Lots of people visited BFL... HashFast... BlackArrow... Bitmine... and where did that leave investors? Given what it takes to be semi reputable here a visit to this outfit won't change much.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Sounds like you two have given this some thought  Grin

Don't forget to buy some hero forum accounts with +trust and a domain registered a reasonable time ago.



Note below is a solid scam setup >  I am not going to sell any of my accounts >  BTW I have been offered money for both my ebay and my account here.


Yeah I will sell my legendary account along with my 11 year seller  ebay account  same user name(has 1200 plus perfect feedback with a history of asic sales).

 Lastly buy my 6 year old  buyer's account on ebay. Listed to my wife that kept her maiden name.

You could list  a few on  the seller's ebay account.  Have the dummy ebay account buy a piece or 2 give good reviews for the unit.

So to the highest bidder what do you think those 3 accounts are worth?

  Just a way to be fucked so be careful 
legendary
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Dex I know You, and You know Me Wink I will contact EMIC by phone after new year holiday and talk about review.
We can go on meeting with Michał together (we also have some our stuff to talk about Wink )
...

Sure, why not...
sr. member
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EOSABC
Ok, lets cut the crap with this troll feeding "It's SCAM" posts.

I'm also from Poland, and since now my company FPITM are one and only Polish producer and seller of ASIC mining hardware here (Not mention Tytus BIB - because they produce only for own closed mining operation).
I'm also a Chairman of Polish Bitcoin Association so i know most of Polish Bitcoin community members personally, especially from mining site (rest of them from internet).

I don't know Michał Krawczyszyn, even from internet (not mention about personally).
I and any of my colleague from Polish community don't know EMIC company.
I can't find any information about EMIC on Polish Bitcoin Forum or Michał him self on FB group "Bitcoin Polska".

(Where You want to allocate Your product, when You don't advertise Your product on mother market?!?!)


Beside this Michał or his company strange "hiding behavior" there many unknown facts about hardware:

- ASICs: what chips will be used and why You don't want to share this information (or know) 2 month before mentioned delivery?
- Price: 600 USD? Where? How?

I really know what mean to produce hardware in "Polish condition", only financial side of operation are very less possible to be acquire, with this kind of final price of product for Feb 2015 according to market.
I don't even mention about technological site.

And preorders? Michał how You can even expect some preorders with lack of basic information about technology, that You give to future customers?!?!

All that is the best way to show community You are don't know Bitcoin hardware market at all.
So how You can expect community will believe Your ASIC and hardware production knowledge, and place preorder?


I live near (Warsaw), may I visit you and see a miner in action? Also you may consider to put one unit into Bitcoin Embassy in Warsaw (Krucza street), they will make an review and then you may gain some legitimacy...

In Bitcoin Embassy Warsaw Ltd. are no one who can proper review any hardware...

Dex I know You, and You know Me Wink I will contact EMIC by phone after new year holiday and talk about review.
We can go on meeting with Michał together (we also have some our stuff to talk about Wink )

I think it will be fastest, proper pre-review for community Smiley

(pre-review because real and pro review for hardware is "dogie class" one Wink )


hero member
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Seems logical to have your "super reliable asic chip" displayed and possibly a video of it hashing.
Why post now without anything to show.  Pre orders from new, unknown companies here will
always be discounted.  Please send someone a miner if your legit.
hero member
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http://fuk.io - check it out!
since im in PL i will check this guys out and let you know if this is for real or not.

sent them message already.
vip
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Watch the video and learn how to earn up to 400% ROI per module. The more modules you buy, the greater the return.

He even asks the question as to why the remaining 8 million bitcoins can't be yours.

In the same video, when you order from EMIC you're guaranteed 100% money back from the day you ordered it to 30 days after you receive your miner.

And, to think Michal considers up idiot for questioning his venture.

One more thing. Where is PowerModuleTM registered?
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