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I have no problem with the coin.  I have some serious questions about the rather misguided direction and decisions that its apparent "leaders" are taking now.  It's almost like one hand is trying to apply a bandage to a wound while the other is trying to stab itself in the eye.  But hey, who cares about that... OOOH SHINY!

Kheg, you need to take it down a level, mate.  You crapped on the fix I made, you crapped on the people adopting it, and now you're crapping on the leadership of the coin.  Over what?  Creating an official pool?  Let them create an official pool.  If your pool, hell even my pool, is as good as we pride ourselves on making it, then what worries should we have if an "official" pool goes live?  We all get our chunk, and we all contribute.

However, since the fork, the only thing I've seen you contribute is FUD and snide remarks.  If you don't want to be a part of the community, and a productive part of the community at that, then go away.  Shut down your KDC pool and let the community work on strengthening the coin network, and in turn the coin's future.  Stop belittling the effort of others to make something of the coin, and in turn themselves.

-Fuse

I've contributed input since well before even you came along my friend.  Since well before this fork happened, and will continue to do so.  If you don't like it, I'm sure you can find an ignore button somewhere.

All I've seen so far is a decimation of the original vision of KDC for the sake of short term profits (which haven't happened yet by the way - and all of a sudden everyone is preaching patience ironically).  I've seen the total network hashrate get slashed by about two-thirds from what it was on a normal daily basis prior to the fork announcement.  And I've seen a coin that was once actually consistently valuable on the marketplace for both miners AND speculators turn into a middle of the pack also-ran that has no more useful value than even Litecoin.  And every time we turn around we have yet another questionable decision being made for exactly what purpose?  

I'm sorry - why exactly do we need an official pool with 0% fees (and thank god the block reward is being reconsidered...) several months AFTER the coin has already been launched with many already active pools?  I thought you said something about strengthening the network.  You know - nevermind.  It doesn't really matter.

I've wanted to see KDC succeed from day 1.  I've put forward my input on it after watching many coins fail miserably.  I see some good going on with KDC (some of the services are a good start), but I see a lot of bad (alienating miners and gutting the network).  I sincerely hope it works out for the better, but I really don't see KDC sustaining a large network at reasonably profitable levels for mining especially with these changes.

I'm not going to apologize for my opinion on the matter, and I am not going to be silent on the matter.  The devs apparently invited the community to be involved with KDC, but you all only want to hear one side of it.  Sorry... but get over it - that's not how it works.

I do sincerely and always have wished KDC the best of luck in the market.  It's my favorite coin.  I've held every single one I've mined since day 1.  Though these days I'm starting to question exactly why.
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Not that I'm taking sides, but a pool 'owner' 'fixing' a block chain in the absence of the dev team then telling people to join your fork regardless of your intentions raised every security hair on my neck the other night.

Just like any healthy market this community needs people who have a contrarian view to things especially if they jeopardize the coins value or security. 

Don't hate us embrace us!

I was here, the guys that normally take care of the coin code were not. It was very easy to see the changes made on github and i checked through them and had no issues with them. It wasn't like it happened without anyone about.
legendary
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HODL for life.
Not that I'm taking sides, but a pool 'owner' 'fixing' a block chain in the absence of the dev team then telling people to join your fork regardless of your intentions raised every security hair on my neck the other night.

Just like any healthy market this community needs people who have a contrarian view to things especially if they jeopardize the coins value or security. 

Don't hate us embrace us!

I can understand your skepticism of my fix.  The beauty of using github as a code repository though is that you can see what I changed.  I've been around long enough to see these things happen in the past.  Hell it just happened with TAG, and I did the same fix for my pool.  If you look at the code, all it did was limit who could connect to you.  You can do this manually with IPtables in linux, or you can code it in the client.  I coded it in the client as I was almost 100% sure that the issue was older clients submitting erroneous blocks to the chain.

I just want to clear up something though... it wasn't "my fork".  I resynced the wallet numerous times until I got on the fork with the highest block height(which I was told was the highest block height by the community).  I just pushed a fork along.  At that point really, any fork would have worked.  It's just best practice to try to push the furthest chain if it is valid.

I agree with the point on contrary views comment you made.  It's good to hear the other side.  Hell, in the last week, I called out the owner/dev of Tagcoin.  I've put 4 months into that coin, and I ran one of the largest pools for it.  But the owner was ready to walk away from this forum.  So I spoke up.  That being said, the devs and a community leader made a pool.  Sure the block bonus was definitely questionable, but the devs/leaders corrected that.  That's good leadership.  No need for Kheg to knock them on that.  They are trying, just like the rest of us.

+1 to your comments, but just two things... I'm not the 'owner' of a pool.  I'm the owner of the pool.  And my 'fix' was the fix.

I'm here for the long haul... until the wheels fall off.  I'll embrace anything that looks like a positive attempt to better the coin.

-Fuse
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KlondikeCoin - Get Real Gold !
If you have ideas or suggestions for marketing, please let me/us know.
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I have no problem with the coin.  I have some serious questions about the rather misguided direction and decisions that its apparent "leaders" are taking now.  It's almost like one hand is trying to apply a bandage to a wound while the other is trying to stab itself in the eye.  But hey, who cares about that... OOOH SHINY!

Kheg, you need to take it down a level, mate.  You crapped on the fix I made, you crapped on the people adopting it, and now you're crapping on the leadership of the coin.  Over what?  Creating an official pool?  Let them create an official pool.  If your pool, hell even my pool, is as good as we pride ourselves on making it, then what worries should we have if an "official" pool goes live?  We all get our chunk, and we all contribute.

However, since the fork, the only thing I've seen you contribute is FUD and snide remarks.  If you don't want to be a part of the community, and a productive part of the community at that, then go away.  Shut down your KDC pool and let the community work on strengthening the coin network, and in turn the coin's future.  Stop belittling the effort of others to make something of the coin, and in turn themselves.

-Fuse

Not that I'm taking sides, but a pool 'owner' 'fixing' a block chain in the absence of the dev team then telling people to join your fork regardless of your intentions raised every security hair on my neck the other night.

Just like any healthy market this community needs people who have a contrarian view to things especially if they jeopardize the coins value or security. 

Don't hate us embrace us!
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The reward reduction will not improve price, only deter net hash.
The absence of sellers dries up liquidity and reduces the efficiency of speculation dollars further driving down price.

And to all of you who think the coin is so cheap please buy some.  I have some standing orders around .00006 I'd like to get filled at that price Smiley

Well this seems a bit contradictory to me. You are telling us the price will go down, maybe to zero and you put your sell orders at .00006. If you were so persuaded to be right, you should sell them quick before the price goes down, wouldn't you?
I've got sell orders from .00004999 to .00008 and buy orders under .00004.  You see I help this coin by doing what needs to be done, before the fork that was providing hash rate and making a market.

I am no longer being fairly paid to provide hash rate so I don't, but I'm still making a market.

If you suspend you passion for this or any other alt coin for a second perhaps you would begin to see the relationship of reward / net hash rate, the markets the coins compete in with each other, and the market of the individual coin itself.

The kiss of death for KDC is the drop in block reward, this reward does not sustain a large enough hash rate.  You can't hoard a coin creating an illiquid market and expect someone buy it.  If you think the coin is undervalued get on CoinedUp and put in some BIDS!

Liquid markets with tight BID/ASK spreads inspire more confidence than anything else.  It's a universal market truth.
legendary
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Guy, still one important thing to achieve by end of the week.

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HODL for life.
I have no problem with the coin.  I have some serious questions about the rather misguided direction and decisions that its apparent "leaders" are taking now.  It's almost like one hand is trying to apply a bandage to a wound while the other is trying to stab itself in the eye.  But hey, who cares about that... OOOH SHINY!

Kheg, you need to take it down a level, mate.  You crapped on the fix I made, you crapped on the people adopting it, and now you're crapping on the leadership of the coin.  Over what?  Creating an official pool?  Let them create an official pool.  If your pool, hell even my pool, is as good as we pride ourselves on making it, then what worries should we have if an "official" pool goes live?  We all get our chunk, and we all contribute.

However, since the fork, the only thing I've seen you contribute is FUD and snide remarks.  If you don't want to be a part of the community, and a productive part of the community at that, then go away.  Shut down your KDC pool and let the community work on strengthening the coin network, and in turn the coin's future.  Stop belittling the effort of others to make something of the coin, and in turn themselves.

-Fuse
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And to all of you who think the coin is so cheap please buy some.  I have some standing orders around .00006 I'd like to get filled at that price Smiley
I would... but I've bought KDC with all the BTC I had. So now I have no more BTC!
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OFFICIAL KLONDIKE POOL IS UP!
0% fee, 10mhps hashrate right now, found four blocks so far
http://pool.klonchain.info
Bonus block reward for blocks finders when pool has 50mhps hashrate. Start mining gold at the official pool too!



Some problems with mail delivery?!
Check junk folder Smiley
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OFFICIAL KLONDIKE POOL IS UP!
0% fee, 10mhps hashrate right now, found four blocks so far
http://pool.klonchain.info
Bonus block reward for blocks finders when pool has 50mhps hashrate. Start mining gold at the official pool too!



Some problems with mail delivery?!
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Btw, I deleted my post since I misread Kheg's comment. Sorry for that.

Please remove the quotes too Smiley
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Dear Kheg, what is your problem with Klondike Coin?

Sincerely, everybody who is getting annoyed by your bullshit twentyfour-seven

I have no problem with the coin.  I have some serious questions about the rather misguided direction and decisions that its apparent "leaders" are taking now.  It's almost like one hand is trying to apply a bandage to a wound while the other is trying to stab itself in the eye.  But hey, who cares about that... OOOH SHINY!
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Activity: 84
Merit: 10
OFFICIAL KLONDIKE POOL IS UP!
0% fee, 10mhps hashrate right now, found four blocks so far
http://pool.klonchain.info
Bonus block reward for blocks finders when pool has 50mhps hashrate. Start mining gold at the official pool too!


Official according to whom, exactly?
According to ME and the developers. Since I am a community leader I have a direct communication with developers and since I'm the one who donated the coins to them they told me I could decide what to do with them. Smiley

Just want to make it clear... There is a Klondike coin pool created to spread the network hashrate over several pools. IT IS NOT THE PLAN to take away miners from other pools. We believe that with the marketing in place that we will get more and more miners and that we also need to spread the hashrate more and more.

I just want to make this point clear!!!


Yes on this note i have asked that we scrap the block finder bonus - i wasn't aware of this plan and don't believe it is of any benefit to the coin.

It will just pull hashes away from other pools which we don't want
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OFFICIAL KLONDIKE POOL IS UP!
0% fee, 10mhps hashrate right now, found four blocks so far
http://pool.klonchain.info
Bonus block reward for blocks finders when pool has 50mhps hashrate. Start mining gold at the official pool too!


Official according to whom, exactly?
According to ME and the developers. Since I am a community leader I have a direct communication with developers and since I'm the one who donated the coins to them they told me I could decide what to do with them. Smiley

Just want to make it clear... There is a Klondike coin pool created to spread the network hashrate over several pools. IT IS NOT THE PLAN to take away miners from other pools. We believe that with the marketing in place that we will get more and more miners and that we also need to spread the hashrate more and more.

I just want to make this point clear!!!


In relation to this i am going to be writing a beginners mining guide over the next couple of days to be published on our site that can then be spread around through articles and posts on other sites (reddit etc).
newbie
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OFFICIAL KLONDIKE POOL IS UP!
0% fee, 10mhps hashrate right now, found four blocks so far
http://pool.klonchain.info
Bonus block reward for blocks finders when pool has 50mhps hashrate. Start mining gold at the official pool too!


Official according to whom, exactly?
According to ME and the developers. Since I am a community leader I have a direct communication with developers and since I'm the one who donated the coins to them they told me I could decide what to do with them. Smiley

Good that we have official klondike pool. :-) Now we should organize some 100 000 KDC give away when the official pool hit 1 GH/s. I am willing contribute up 5 000 KDC (10% my KDC savings) to this event :-)
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Dear Kheg, what is your problem with Klondike Coin?

Sincerely, everybody who is getting annoyed by your bullshit twentyfour-seven
legendary
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OFFICIAL KLONDIKE POOL IS UP!
0% fee, 10mhps hashrate right now, found four blocks so far
http://pool.klonchain.info
Bonus block reward for blocks finders when pool has 50mhps hashrate. Start mining gold at the official pool too!


Official according to whom, exactly?
According to ME and the developers. Since I am a community leader I have a direct communication with developers and since I'm the one who donated the coins to them they told me I could decide what to do with them. Smiley

Just want to make it clear... There is a Klondike coin pool created to spread the network hashrate over several pools. IT IS NOT THE PLAN to take away miners from other pools. We believe that with the marketing in place that we will get more and more miners and that we also need to spread the hashrate more and more.

I just want to make this point clear!!!



member
Activity: 196
Merit: 10
OFFICIAL KLONDIKE POOL IS UP!
0% fee, 10mhps hashrate right now, found four blocks so far
http://pool.klonchain.info

Bonus block reward for blocks finders when pool has 50mhps hashrate. Start mining gold at the official pool too!


Official according to whom, exactly?

Official according to us Smiley

Lovely.  The hits just keep coming.  Roll Eyes
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OFFICIAL KLONDIKE POOL IS UP!
0% fee, 10mhps hashrate right now, found four blocks so far
http://pool.klonchain.info

Bonus block reward for blocks finders when pool has 50mhps hashrate. Start mining gold at the official pool too!


Official according to whom, exactly?

Official according to us Smiley
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