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jr. member
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The same fudders are attacking deeponion so they clearly have a hatred for privacy coins, perhaps they work for the state police Cheesy

Speaking of privacy coins, if you look at the websites of the 3 tor based coins, don't you think the XSPEC website needs a better revamp i.e. more visuals?

https://spectreproject.io/
https://deeponion.org/
https://vergecurrency.com/

as far as I'm concerned I don't think so.
I like the clean look of the website.
All important informations are there.
in addition to it these visual elements can be possible security gaps.
hero member
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Coin Mage
Do we have an official roadmap for 2018?

Yes, it is on the project homepage. https://spectreproject.io/roadmap
newbie
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Do we have an official roadmap for 2018?
hero member
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Coin Mage
thanks for your answer and that interesting link about the pos v2 and pos v3.
but i really wonder why they have removed that "coin age factor" in pos v3.
what's the benefit from removing it and what else are the advantages of pos v3 compared to pos v2.
in the link you provided it is not explained in detail.

Come on man  Grin I said two times that the whitepaper is linked there: https://bravenewcoin.com/assets/Whitepapers/Blackcoin-POS-3.pdf

Do you want me to quote the reasons for removing the coin age factor from it, and other improvements??


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at least there should be some kind of factor which recognizes not accepted rewards and increases the chances to get a new reward some time earlier.

the "bad luck thing" with not accepted stake rewards is really not fair in my opinion.
what if someone has always bad luck with it?

Maybe you should design your own Proof of Stake algorithm then?  Wink Tongue  I don't feel like going into the details of PoS right now, read the other articles linked in the Proof-of-Stake intro I gave you earlier, try to understand what it does. It doesn't make sense to argue about something you don't fully understand. (No offense)
legendary
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@Islapdonkey - I don't think I've ever heard @jbg whine in the 10 months I've worked closely with him....lol....you guys come up with some funny stories.

Great that you own some SpectreCoin[xspec].....don't sell it, you're going to be glad you hodl.

When i said dev, i actually mean't founder. If you read my comment on accusation you would have deduced that. Anyway, glad he or she made an effort to defend the coin from a technical standpoint. Though, i still ascertain that the op accusation post is currently true, regardless of any post made afterwards by our dev, the current comments from the guy is currently true. However, if this gets the ball rolling, then i view it as a win for everybody.  As the "you guys" comment, i would say i am the only one who is a holder that is willing to accept the truth as stated, everyone else feels more comfortable screaming fud, so the "you guys" comment should apply to them.

Are you a bag-holder of XSPEC?
I invested some one year ago. It is still a profitable coin I have even invested.

I also read the accusation posts carefully. Also I have a bit worry about my investment.
Anyway, the cryptocoin is among the most risk things. Look forward to the future?
hero member
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Posted in our discord community late yesterday by @jbg .....pretty much speaks for itself.

"I have a short update regarding project structure. Even before I needed to take some time off, I had been discussing with a number of longstanding community members about expanding the core team and formalising some kind of "governance" over the project. Given that me taking 10 days off caused such a large disruption, it's clear that these changes need to happen quickly so that the project can keep its momentum even if one member needs to take time off. We now have an idea of what we'd like this to look like, and I'd like to share this with you all. First, we're going to officially grow the core team to include several more people, including at least one more developer but also people with project management and marketing skills. @Mandica is also back in good health and will be participating actively in the core team again. Second, we are introducing bounties to encourage much wider participation in the development of the project. This will be managed via GitHub Issues - anybody will be able to "claim" an issue and upon their successful completion of it, the bounty will be paid to them. This will be funded from the staking donations. I'm working on identifying the areas where I think bounties can be best applied and will create issues soon, but I'd also like to encourage anybody who has ideas for fixes or improvements to propose bounties. The core team will select the bounties that will be funded from staking donations, but anybody can fund a bounty if we don't select it and they want it to be worked on. We hope that these changes will "decentralise" development more effectively and also increase our rate of progress. A specific update about v1.4 will follow in the next days."

"once the core team is in place I want to hand control of incoming donations over to a designated person who will manage the bounties and make results-based payments to me and Bryce as well as fund anything else that needs funding. This designated person will be chosen by the core team collectively, in a public and transparent way, and will be some longstanding, well-known community member. I want to make this change for several reasons, (1) I think philosophically a clean separation of the funding and the development is a good idea, (2) the constant accusations directed at me are taking a significant toll on my wellbeing and my ability to work effectively, and hopefully this will help, (3) the designated person should be able to more clearly weigh the various needs for funding (marketing, core developers, bounties, maybe exchange listing fees, etc) rather than having it managed by a developer with a more narrow view of the project."

"I've now received messages from 8 promising developers, so the odds of expanding the development team are looking good."


Absolutely positive to the project. The price reflects the response of investors.
Stop dumping and keep watching.
Peoples expect to have a new change.
sr. member
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If i had a dollar for every "had i known"
@Islapdonkey - I don't think I've ever heard @jbg whine in the 10 months I've worked closely with him....lol....you guys come up with some funny stories.

Great that you own some SpectreCoin[xspec].....don't sell it, you're going to be glad you hodl.

When i said dev, i actually mean't founder. If you read my comment on accusation you would have deduced that. Anyway, glad he or she made an effort to defend the coin from a technical standpoint. Though, i still ascertain that the op accusation post is currently true, regardless of any post made afterwards by our dev, the current comments from the guy is currently true. However, if this gets the ball rolling, then i view it as a win for everybody.  As the "you guys" comment, i would say i am the only one who is a holder that is willing to accept the truth as stated, everyone else feels more comfortable screaming fud, so the "you guys" comment should apply to them.
legendary
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Spectreproject Community Manager
Posted in our discord community late yesterday by @jbg .....pretty much speaks for itself.

"I have a short update regarding project structure. Even before I needed to take some time off, I had been discussing with a number of longstanding community members about expanding the core team and formalising some kind of "governance" over the project. Given that me taking 10 days off caused such a large disruption, it's clear that these changes need to happen quickly so that the project can keep its momentum even if one member needs to take time off. We now have an idea of what we'd like this to look like, and I'd like to share this with you all. First, we're going to officially grow the core team to include several more people, including at least one more developer but also people with project management and marketing skills. @Mandica is also back in good health and will be participating actively in the core team again. Second, we are introducing bounties to encourage much wider participation in the development of the project. This will be managed via GitHub Issues - anybody will be able to "claim" an issue and upon their successful completion of it, the bounty will be paid to them. This will be funded from the staking donations. I'm working on identifying the areas where I think bounties can be best applied and will create issues soon, but I'd also like to encourage anybody who has ideas for fixes or improvements to propose bounties. The core team will select the bounties that will be funded from staking donations, but anybody can fund a bounty if we don't select it and they want it to be worked on. We hope that these changes will "decentralise" development more effectively and also increase our rate of progress. A specific update about v1.4 will follow in the next days."

"once the core team is in place I want to hand control of incoming donations over to a designated person who will manage the bounties and make results-based payments to me and Bryce as well as fund anything else that needs funding. This designated person will be chosen by the core team collectively, in a public and transparent way, and will be some longstanding, well-known community member. I want to make this change for several reasons, (1) I think philosophically a clean separation of the funding and the development is a good idea, (2) the constant accusations directed at me are taking a significant toll on my wellbeing and my ability to work effectively, and hopefully this will help, (3) the designated person should be able to more clearly weigh the various needs for funding (marketing, core developers, bounties, maybe exchange listing fees, etc) rather than having it managed by a developer with a more narrow view of the project."

"I've now received messages from 8 promising developers, so the odds of expanding the development team are looking good."
legendary
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Spectreproject Community Manager
@Islapdonkey - I don't think I've ever heard @jbg whine in the 10 months I've worked closely with him....lol....you guys come up with some funny stories.

Great that you own some SpectreCoin[xspec].....don't sell it, you're going to be glad you hodl.
hero member
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Am going to post something similar to what i posted on the accusation page but as much as i hate it, this guy laid out a claim filled with lots of verifiable proof and i have yet to see anyone defending the platform with info that could be verified. It's just ppl claiming/screaming fud cos they not happy that he took a shot at Xspec (i guess stating your opinions with verifiable proofs is now considered fud)

 I do understand that all codes might not be available on github but it doesn't negate the fact that the op accusation post is to the tee. No matter how much someone wants the sky to be yellow, it's not fud to state that the sky is blue. Simple as that. What he laid out is currently true.

 I should add that i own a sizeable amount of XSPEC and am not proud that i bought with zero research into the platform. I just took a gamble when deep onion (probably a shit coin too) was spiking and bought some cos i anticipated the growth will emulate each other. anyway, this is my first time really researching this coin and the guy is right.

 So we all should just admit that he is right and the dev can either respond with an improved tech or keep whinning/averting like a common shill


The Truth is Not fud just because You don't like it

Have a look at this:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31750202

I believe I have answered the 'senior software developer' in my post
sr. member
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If i had a dollar for every "had i known"
Am going to post something similar to what i posted on the accusation page but as much as i hate it, this guy laid out a claim filled with lots of verifiable proof and i have yet to see anyone defending the platform with info that could be verified. It's just ppl claiming/screaming fud cos they not happy that he took a shot at Xspec (i guess stating your opinions with verifiable proofs is now considered fud)

 I do understand that all codes might not be available on github but it doesn't negate the fact that the op accusation post is to the tee. No matter how much someone wants the sky to be yellow, it's not fud to state that the sky is blue. Simple as that. What he laid out is currently true.

 I should add that i own a sizeable amount of XSPEC and am not proud that i bought with zero research into the platform. I just took a gamble when deep onion (probably a shit coin too) was spiking and bought some cos i anticipated the growth will emulate each other. anyway, this is my first time really researching this coin and the guy is right.

 So we all should just admit that he is right and the dev can either respond with an improved tech or keep whinning/averting like a common shill


The Truth is Not fud just because You don't like it
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The same fudders are attacking deeponion so they clearly have a hatred for privacy coins, perhaps they work for the state police Cheesy

Speaking of privacy coins, if you look at the websites of the 3 tor based coins, don't you think the XSPEC website needs a better revamp i.e. more visuals?

https://spectreproject.io/
https://deeponion.org/
https://vergecurrency.com/
newbie
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I'm a new XSPEC Collector but i dont listen to fud. You can tell that this is a good hard working coin.
The developer should be proud.
Thanks
Im holding onto this one. +1
legendary
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Spectreproject Community Manager
If any of you had worked with JBG as closely as Gandalf86 and I had and knew him like we do......you wouldn't even be saying some of the horrible things I've heard here.

I do understand that it's crypto though....and the vast majority here are either fairly new or may have been burned by some project in the past. So they are quick to judge.

Please, how about just keeping your "observations" and "comments" to yourselves and watch a solid project
get stronger with the best privacy tech in the business.

You newer people will learn to be not so quick to judge and others will learn that they were wrong.....
just flat out wrong.

The professional "fudders", which seem to proliferate here on BtCT....
 will move on to something more entertaining for them.

There were around 500 projects when SpectreCoin was launched....over 1500 now.....and I'm sure
you can find another target for you venom.
jr. member
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so if the staking reward is totally random and the chances are the same everyday it basically means that in theory if you have always bad luck you could probably never ever get any (accepted) reward whilst someone else with the same staking amount and alot of luck could get many rewards every couple of days?
that's not really a fair system isn't it?

why does this coin have such a bad and shitty pos system?
i know other pos coins which have a more fair system in which your chances get higher to get a new reward if your last reward wasn't accepted.

i'm getting really upset because of this and it feels like i get ripped off in some way because i let my computer running day and night and have the costs for electricity.
i'm staking more than 500 spectre for several weeks now and didn't get anything yet.
twice it showed a staking reward of about 2 spectre each but both weren't accepted.

it's just not fair if it only depends on luck or bad luck (apart from staking amount).
some other factors should be included such as waiting time (i.e. by dynamic staking weight).

This is not unfair, and it is not "our" proof of stake system. It is called PoS v3, used by hundreds of coins. The coin age factor was removed compared to the previous version, PoS v2. For more info, see https://github.com/bitcoinx2/crypto-intro-guide/wiki/Proof-of-Stake

If you let your computer stake for one year, then you will receive about 5% of your balance in total, within a certain confidence interval. As you only have 500 coins, that would be 25 XSPEC. Each stake has a size of about 2 XSPEC, so you will get roughly 13 (accepted) stake rewards per year.
thanks for your answer and that interesting link about the pos v2 and pos v3.
but i really wonder why they have removed that "coin age factor" in pos v3.
what's the benefit from removing it and what else are the advantages of pos v3 compared to pos v2.
in the link you provided it is not explained in detail.

at least there should be some kind of factor which recognizes not accepted rewards and increases the chances to get a new reward some time earlier.

the "bad luck thing" with not accepted stake rewards is really not fair in my opinion.
what if someone has always bad luck with it?

(sorry i don't wanna annoy you with this issue.)
sr. member
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This does not mean anything; it has gained 30% in 24 hours but has lost almost 80% in the last month, so it could be a simple rebound, before going down again.

We all hope that jbg is telling the truth and all the accusations raised this last month are just a skillful attempt by Fud to get the coin down.

If jbg is right and shows all that then Xspec can become a hen from golden eggs for those who buy now, otherwise it risks slowly dying like so many other shit.
jr. member
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Up 31% in the last 24h according to coinmarketcap. The underlying technology will always prevail over any coordinated attempts at FUD.
hero member
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Sad to say but it looks like the fudders are winning right now with former investors dumping like crazy. All alts are down but this is even downer. Can we estimate when something solid will be released to quieten these fudsters? Days / weeks / months?

That's the bloody truth. My estimation is NEVER or sometime later. If still having hope, there should be at least months. The price will go downward to the deepest bottom, even lower than 1000 satoshi.
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Persistence turnsfailure into xemplary achievement
Sad to day but it looks like the fudders are winning right now with former investors dumping like crazy. All alts are down but this is even downer. Can we estimate when something solid will be released to quieten these fudsters? Days / weeks / months?

Definitely not months. Jbg commented on this today, he is recovering from this loss of a family member, and will continue working on 1.4 now. The original release was maybe a week late on the original plan (end of February), plus we have one week delay because of his loss, so think about 2 weeks maybe? There is no hurry, everyone who is still in the game now doesn't even care if it will be delayed.

Former investors sell, new investors get in ... that's the market guys. If you want to make an investment decision, watch the fundamentals and then draw your own conclusions.

In the meanwhile we are also talking to developers who could be interested in joining as an additional core developer, and make plans to get the wider developer community involved as well. It's all getting better!  Smiley

Absolutely:
two crucial rules anyone involved in this crypto game must follow to avoid heartache and pain.

1: Always do as much research as you can before you get involved in a project.

2:invest only what you are happy and comfortable to let go of.

That's why I say it's fantastically healthy for Xspec to have come under such scrutiny at this stage.

The project is here to stay. This should allow those who need to cash out to do so.

But many are innit for the long term. Many of us have already made our decision. Internal wrinkles will be ironed out, the project will move forward. Xspec does have a loyal and committed following which believes in its future.
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Coin Mage
Sad to day but it looks like the fudders are winning right now with former investors dumping like crazy. All alts are down but this is even downer. Can we estimate when something solid will be released to quieten these fudsters? Days / weeks / months?

Definitely not months. Jbg commented on this today, he is recovering from this loss of a family member, and will continue working on 1.4 now. The original release was maybe a week late on the original plan (end of February), plus we have one week delay because of his loss, so think about 2 weeks maybe? There is no hurry, everyone who is still in the game now doesn't even care if it will be delayed.

Former investors sell, new investors get in ... that's the market guys. If you want to make an investment decision, watch the fundamentals and then draw your own conclusions.

In the meanwhile we are also talking to developers who could be interested in joining as an additional core developer, and make plans to get the wider developer community involved as well. It's all getting better!  Smiley
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