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hero member
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Coin Mage
Someone posted the follow text in the speculation room and i wanted to get a answer by the telegram admins of xspec but i get banned.

"Take a look at the coin they copied, it has everything xspec has, it is xspec with a different name, xspec doesn't have 1 single feature this coin doesn't have, do you not understand the idea of taking a coin and rebranding it? I don't view TOR transactions as anything special either, a proper private chain eliminates the need for TOR, tell me if a seller gives you his true private wallet address, Monero as an example, why do you need TOR integration? just use your Monero wallet to send to his wallet rather than having to go through the TOR layer, it didn't do much for shadow cash's existence either.. and if we look at TOR based sales, Monero is the norm, good reason for this.
also xspec has a richlist, would I keep my private funds in a coin that shows my total amount by wallet address? how's that private?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!rich << very anonymous isn't it.

And you are just bringing up features now, features that shadow cash a coin with a 1.5 million cap had before xspec copied it's code and made not 1 improvement.

You either have no clue at all or you're just here to shill your shitty coin.

Back to my point though, it's a scam, copy + paste of shadow cash, nothing more, no known team, 1 developer, top 10% hold over 30% of xspec.. I know this due to a richlist Wink
Can any one tell me the spread on Monero?

Also for the record I hold 0 Monero or any other privacy coin, just calling out a scam project.

Also why did it go to $5 in December? coinbase made 43% of it's yearly revenue in December alone, tons of new traders, they go online looking for a good deal and find this, the #1 shilled coin online, seriously feel for these people.

If it was a good coin, being on the market for a whole year now, it's market cap would be far far higher than it is, people with money are not stupid, stupid people can't put in enough to drive it's price unless it's the likes of what we seen in December.

Also in 1 year, you would expect some new features in a fork, it's still just a mirror of shadow cash.

For every shitty shill reply you put up trying to convince new traders, I'll put up one which does far more damage to your shit coin.. so please keep going! dig that hole deeper.

Also you've got 2 posts on this forum as of now, 2 in this thread.. signing up to defend shit won't work."

The reason why that was deleted is that there are so many wrong assumptions here that it is very difficult to NOT see this as pointless FUD. But I will try to give you a small overview:

1. Tor is required to be resistant to censorship (preventing connections to the network), prosecution (in places where using such a currency might be illegal), IP/timing correlation attacks and DDoS.
2. A rich list itself does not tell you anything other than the distribution, if the transactions made are anonymous and impossible to correlate.
Private balances do not show up in the rich list, these are the balances that are used for private transactions.
3. ShadowCash is no longer actively developed, the Spectre network is running via Tor, the ring size selection has been improved, and our developers are currently working on a new intuitive and robust wallet, a new splitting/merging algorithm for stealth transactions, as well as stealth staking.
4. The distribution of the rich list is not unusual for a coin of this size.
5. The price did go up to $5 in December because of speculation. The price of cryptocurrencies is very volatile.

Hope that helps a little bit?
newbie
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so if the staking reward is totally random and the chances are the same everyday it basically means that in theory if you have always bad luck you could probably never ever get any (accepted) reward whilst someone else with the same staking amount and alot of luck could get many rewards every couple of days?
that's not really a fair system isn't it?

why does this coin have such a bad and shitty pos system?
i know other pos coins which have a more fair system in which your chances get higher to get a new reward if your last reward wasn't accepted.

i'm getting really upset because of this and it feels like i get ripped off in some way because i let my computer running day and night and have the costs for electricity.
i'm staking more than 500 spectre for several weeks now and didn't get anything yet.
twice it showed a staking reward of about 2 spectre each but both weren't accepted.

it's just not fair if it only depends on luck or bad luck (apart from staking amount).
some other factors should be included such as waiting time (i.e. by dynamic staking weight).

This is not unfair, and it is not "our" proof of stake system. It is called PoS v3, used by hundreds of coins. The coin age factor was removed compared to the previous version, PoS v2. For more info, see https://github.com/bitcoinx2/crypto-intro-guide/wiki/Proof-of-Stake

If you let your computer stake for one year, then you will receive about 5% of your balance in total, within a certain confidence interval. As you only have 500 coins, that would be 25 XSPEC. Each stake has a size of about 2 XSPEC, so you will get roughly 13 (accepted) stake rewards per year.
Which technical changing features of PoS v3 make this version different and better than the older version?
newbie
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Someone posted the follow text in the speculation room and i wanted to get a answer by the telegram admins of xspec but i get banned.

"Take a look at the coin they copied, it has everything xspec has, it is xspec with a different name, xspec doesn't have 1 single feature this coin doesn't have, do you not understand the idea of taking a coin and rebranding it? I don't view TOR transactions as anything special either, a proper private chain eliminates the need for TOR, tell me if a seller gives you his true private wallet address, Monero as an example, why do you need TOR integration? just use your Monero wallet to send to his wallet rather than having to go through the TOR layer, it didn't do much for shadow cash's existence either.. and if we look at TOR based sales, Monero is the norm, good reason for this.
also xspec has a richlist, would I keep my private funds in a coin that shows my total amount by wallet address? how's that private?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!rich << very anonymous isn't it.

And you are just bringing up features now, features that shadow cash a coin with a 1.5 million cap had before xspec copied it's code and made not 1 improvement.

You either have no clue at all or you're just here to shill your shitty coin.

Back to my point though, it's a scam, copy + paste of shadow cash, nothing more, no known team, 1 developer, top 10% hold over 30% of xspec.. I know this due to a richlist Wink
Can any one tell me the spread on Monero?

Also for the record I hold 0 Monero or any other privacy coin, just calling out a scam project.

Also why did it go to $5 in December? coinbase made 43% of it's yearly revenue in December alone, tons of new traders, they go online looking for a good deal and find this, the #1 shilled coin online, seriously feel for these people.

If it was a good coin, being on the market for a whole year now, it's market cap would be far far higher than it is, people with money are not stupid, stupid people can't put in enough to drive it's price unless it's the likes of what we seen in December.

Also in 1 year, you would expect some new features in a fork, it's still just a mirror of shadow cash.

For every shitty shill reply you put up trying to convince new traders, I'll put up one which does far more damage to your shit coin.. so please keep going! dig that hole deeper.

Also you've got 2 posts on this forum as of now, 2 in this thread.. signing up to defend shit won't work."
hero member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 515
Coin Mage
so if the staking reward is totally random and the chances are the same everyday it basically means that in theory if you have always bad luck you could probably never ever get any (accepted) reward whilst someone else with the same staking amount and alot of luck could get many rewards every couple of days?
that's not really a fair system isn't it?

why does this coin have such a bad and shitty pos system?
i know other pos coins which have a more fair system in which your chances get higher to get a new reward if your last reward wasn't accepted.

i'm getting really upset because of this and it feels like i get ripped off in some way because i let my computer running day and night and have the costs for electricity.
i'm staking more than 500 spectre for several weeks now and didn't get anything yet.
twice it showed a staking reward of about 2 spectre each but both weren't accepted.

it's just not fair if it only depends on luck or bad luck (apart from staking amount).
some other factors should be included such as waiting time (i.e. by dynamic staking weight).

This is not unfair, and it is not "our" proof of stake system. It is called PoS v3, used by hundreds of coins. The coin age factor was removed compared to the previous version, PoS v2. For more info, see https://github.com/bitcoinx2/crypto-intro-guide/wiki/Proof-of-Stake

If you let your computer stake for one year, then you will receive about 5% of your balance in total, within a certain confidence interval. As you only have 500 coins, that would be 25 XSPEC. Each stake has a size of about 2 XSPEC, so you will get roughly 13 (accepted) stake rewards per year.
jr. member
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Merit: 1
thanks for your answer.
what i meant with "whole time" is that i initially had to wait one month for the first reward which wasn't accepted unfortunately.
now is it possible that i have to wait for another month to get another reward (which is hopefully accepted then) or is the possibility bigger now to get something earlier?
i mean if the chances of getting a reward have increased because of that not accepted reward or got my chances "reset"?

No, your chances are the same every day, they only depend on the amount of coins you have.
so if the staking reward is totally random and the chances are the same everyday it basically means that in theory if you have always bad luck you could probably never ever get any (accepted) reward whilst someone else with the same staking amount and alot of luck could get many rewards every couple of days?
that's not really a fair system isn't it?

why does this coin have such a bad and shitty pos system?
i know other pos coins which have a more fair system in which your chances get higher to get a new reward if your last reward wasn't accepted.

i'm getting really upset because of this and it feels like i get ripped off in some way because i let my computer running day and night and have the costs for electricity.
i'm staking more than 500 spectre for several weeks now and didn't get anything yet.
twice it showed a staking reward of about 2 spectre each but both weren't accepted.

it's just not fair if it only depends on luck or bad luck (apart from staking amount).
some other factors should be included such as waiting time (i.e. by dynamic staking weight).
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1009
There is a new exchange launching June of 2018 named  https://coinpulse.io/

Please register your vote for SpectreCoin [xspec]

https://request.coinpulse.io/suggestions/5967/spectrecoin-xspec

Is it legit? Do you know about the manager team? Do they require KYC?
Any more information will be helpful?

Why to vote for a brand new exchange, but not a huge one?

Actually, for Binance, bittrex, we can exchange without KYC. Only the daily withdraw is limited.
legendary
Activity: 1019
Merit: 1001
Spectreproject Community Manager
There is a new exchange launching June of 2018 named  https://coinpulse.io/

Please register your vote for SpectreCoin [xspec]

https://request.coinpulse.io/suggestions/5967/spectrecoin-xspec
legendary
Activity: 1019
Merit: 1001
Spectreproject Community Manager
Funny thing is a few weeks ago wuzza was happy....https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30234450
member
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1.4 should be out soon, the aim is end of Feb/start of march, so will be this week or next hopefully.
member
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now that you mention it, there hasn't been any development done in a month. Extended vacation?
member
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as you can see stopped the altcoin hype at end of january : https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#dominance-percentage

and as you can see here the same time devs stopped with their fake developement: https://github.com/XSPECOfficial

this coin is dead. we got scammed

Another attempt to spread FUD? Nothing fake about this, and nobody is getting scammed. You seem to mistake a strategic pause in focused marketing for a stopped project. If you cared to look at the Discord channel discussions, you would notice that this project is very much alive and kicking.



Please forgive the noobs.  Grin Grin
What all they can do is to scare themselves with the wrong information. Then loss and kicked out.

Yeah, you might be right. I can somehow make sense out of the fact that noobs get sometimes scared when the price does not just go up, or if there are no massive, world-shattering revelations every few days. What I don't understand is that they then present completely unfounded opinions as facts or use other "scare tactics" ... if they are in any way invested in the coin they are FUDing, then they shoot themselves in the foot by talking the coin down. And if they are not invested, then why do they care ?  (Unless it's just about bad mouthing a competitor)
X4s
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Wow xspec is bleeding a lot.
Not really.....like back in late 2017 when it dipped briefly to 2000 sats...it was followed by a spike to 36000 sats.
Xspec is hovering at its latest new floor of 10000 sats as we wait on the next version 1.4...and the more important v2.0.

So enjoy the buying potential....2018 will be a great year for SpectreCoin

Yes, a good time to buy, but I bought weeks ago, more expensive, if I had conditions I would buy more now ..
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1009
as you can see stopped the altcoin hype at end of january : https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#dominance-percentage

and as you can see here the same time devs stopped with their fake developement: https://github.com/XSPECOfficial

this coin is dead. we got scammed

Another attempt to spread FUD? Nothing fake about this, and nobody is getting scammed. You seem to mistake a strategic pause in focused marketing for a stopped project. If you cared to look at the Discord channel discussions, you would notice that this project is very much alive and kicking.



Please forgive the noobs.  Grin Grin
What all they can do is to scare themselves with the wrong information. Then loss and kicked out.
member
Activity: 252
Merit: 47
Hosting for this Blockchain has Expired!

what's going on?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/


Nothing. Only the account on cryptoid has expired. The stats and flows provided there were anyway highly inaccurate and misleading. Furthermore, very soon such a Blockchain view will be completely useless once private accounts and transactions are the default in XSPEC.
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
Hosting for this Blockchain has Expired!

what's going on?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/
member
Activity: 252
Merit: 47
as you can see stopped the altcoin hype at end of january : https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#dominance-percentage

and as you can see here the same time devs stopped with their fake developement: https://github.com/XSPECOfficial

this coin is dead. we got scammed

Another attempt to spread FUD? Nothing fake about this, and nobody is getting scammed. You seem to mistake a strategic pause in focused marketing for a stopped project. If you cared to look at the Discord channel discussions, you would notice that this project is very much alive and kicking.

sr. member
Activity: 285
Merit: 251
as you can see stopped the altcoin hype at end of january : https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#dominance-percentage

and as you can see here the same time devs stopped with their fake developement: https://github.com/XSPECOfficial

this coin is dead. we got scammed

Sell ​​your coins and go crying elsewhere.
full member
Activity: 142
Merit: 100
as you can see stopped the altcoin hype at end of january : https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#dominance-percentage

and as you can see here the same time devs stopped with their fake developement: https://github.com/XSPECOfficial

this coin is dead. we got scammed
member
Activity: 161
Merit: 10
Wow xspec is bleeding a lot.
Not really.....like back in late 2017 when it dipped briefly to 2000 sats...it was followed by a spike to 36000 sats.
Xspec is hovering at its latest new floor of 10000 sats as we wait on the next version 1.4...and the more important v2.0.

So enjoy the buying potential....2018 will be a great year for SpectreCoin

I agree with you. The last chance to buy at a low price.

Yep. Just bought a whole lot more. A great buying opportunity!  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 285
Merit: 251
Wow xspec is bleeding a lot.
Not really.....like back in late 2017 when it dipped briefly to 2000 sats...it was followed by a spike to 36000 sats.
Xspec is hovering at its latest new floor of 10000 sats as we wait on the next version 1.4...and the more important v2.0.

So enjoy the buying potential....2018 will be a great year for SpectreCoin

I agree with you. The last chance to buy at a low price.
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