Topic: [ANN][STACK] StackCoin - Get in Now - #Fast Decrease# [Launch 22/02/2014] - page 3. (Read 105540 times)

Yes, it may seem a bit disingenuous to invite scam victims to yet another IPO.. even if it wasn't meant to be so.

Hey guys, RealStackCoin is basically giving all IPO victims all their coins for free!  All you have to do is make a claim through eatrader.  He has volunteered his time to do all claim processing.. and I send out the coins accordingly.  This has worked very effectively, and we have reimbursed over 70% of original stakeholders.  No strings attached..

Head over to this thread if you haven't already made your claim: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annrsc-realstackcoin-reverse-scam-hard-fork-34015-kgw-patch-491255


Bringing this scammer to justice would be super... and if someone is on that, please catch him!    But we should move on and forward as we can as well.

Scammer is coming here for sure read and have more fun, and one of the poster is still him. I suspect %99.9. LEts make some deep analysis of this case.

He thinks he did so right and we all were stupids enough. He is still believing so. The thing he is not aware "he will eventually trapped by himself". The worst executioner is the man himself. Now welcome to the world "where he cant trust anyone" because he does not trust himself. The bill of this scam is a hell for him "you have tougher world full of scammers and you have to protect yourself always anymore." Go hide and get new fake identities. You lost you. Not only this time but forever... If there is tiny responsibility left in you. come and repair the shit you did.

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It's a freebie, mate... Cynical much?

Wow...found a premade list of victims all ready for you, eh?

Victims of stackcoin,

I am one of the team members of GreenCoin. I would like to offer you a free 0.02 BTC to be used towards our IPO. Please contact me if you are interesting in claiming this.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/greencoin-cancelled-please-claim-refunds-499080

now we have a real stackcoin！

move to this thread！
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annrsc-realstackcoin-reverse-scam-hard-fork-34015-kgw-patch-491255

REALSTACKCOIN

How to reverse a scam !

I supose you can not see the difference. I was reading bitcointalk for many months before i even made a account, when i saw a nice coin i wanted to help with. Then it seems there was a scammer behind it. So i decided to help save a coin (bring it back to life after a bad fork). I am working on a new coin with some people i met while saving this eToken. Why i never did it before? sometimes things have to fall in place.

But when we launch it we will use a special account for it. With a name that can be used as the official bitcointalk forum account and related easy to the coin. Does not make us scammers but also not trustworthy. Its not about the account name but the people behind it. And with the anonymous of the web that is difficult to find out.

Please go through a list of a dozen recent coin starts.
Many were done by a new nickname, I would actually say - most of them.


The probability that a "real" newbie ("real newbie" = someone who was e.g. an astronaut before,
and since three weeks has looked into crypto) launches a successful coin ... is minuscule.

It can only mean one thing:

Long standing members of this community ... do not stand up with their own nickname,
but instead hide behind a new nickname, when they launch something new.

Understandable, too.

How can I distinguish between a supertrustworthy rock-of-a-dev
with "25 years of cryptocoin experience but who won't tell you his
name because of the neighbours who then think he is a millionaire soon"
(joke)    - and a scammer who opens a newbie account?


I want to know how to know the difference, really.

When reading through this thread, your posting touched me.

First thing I did was sending you some maxcoins. Easy.
I encourage everyone who has had a GOOD MONTH ( = plus ), to send some, too.
His addresses are in the signature of his original posting, linked below.

Then I started to write an answer, a long one.
You really inspired me a lot. Now I know, I am on to something with my text - but it will need a lot of editing, so another time.
This posting here is the third attempt to answer now, because I think you deserve some answer.

Thank you very much for your honesty, for your sharing, your courage to show weakness, and the ability to describe what's going on inside you. I wish you healing, above all.



Forgiveness is the key. There is a whole "day out of time" each year, and it's about forgiveness.

The lesson is to trust even stronger. Trust has protected me so many times in my life. Carefulness did a good job, too. Both!!

"Is this the society we want?" is an amazing question. One of the most empowering questions there are for a conscience. Society is constructed. It IS us who decide what kind of society we want.  Call me names, but I think, parts of this crypto scene are building a new framework for mankind, it's a planetary elite task. So there will be moments, in which decisions can be taken. And those decisions go all the way to your beautiful question.

And in my opinion, criminals and criminal offenses should also be tried to be understood - but treated specially by a community. Making profit is not the same like openly betraying people.


There is a lot to learn in here.

Please do not misunderstand me, and where I am unclear, please ask. I just give short points for now. I am underslept, so I am using too many words :-)


* Please dare to continue to trust in humanity. You are a jewel if you can - many people never got to that point. Thanks to your parents!

* Do not let the popcorn munching grinning audience who NOW shouts "greed dumm naivety" let anywhere near you. They might have objective arguments that ARE useful to analyze the reasons for the loss in a critical way. But emotionally, and socially, I feel as if I am reading sociopaths. They are burnt badly, and have probably long lost THEIR trust in the human race, or never got to that level of consciousness.

* The "you should have known" is so anti-risk, it doesn't make sense at all.  Not here.

* If you are not balancing high earnings with high risk - you are scamming.
  (Or you are raping nature = scamming future generations).

* So, if someone has high earnings for a low risk, either the person is intentionally breaking the rules (like our confetti millionaire), or the rules of the game put him into such a powerful situation (e.g. banks) that ... we all should exit the game before it even starts!  

* Long story short:  It's a noble thing to play high risk, high gain. That's actually our offer to the world. THE thing that traders are really useful for.

* it's not "nowadays", it has never been "nowadays".

* I read somewhere, if you play in dangerous high risk investments (let's be honest, for us beginners most games look high risk ...), a safer way is to risk only 1/20 of what you have, and play many games. Some loose some win. As long as you win more than loose, all is good.  1/20 sounds a bit boring, but the general idea has protected me. Then one coin which is suddenly 13 fold in value - wow.  Overall, I slowly start to multiply big time since my start here (with a few dollars).

* Start again - even only with a few dollars! Let's donate him some starting capital!

* You are almost broke now, after two robberies - so you invested A LOT into something which did not guarantee a 95% safety net.

* Even if I see a clear winning, it's still always about the future - until all my initial money is back in my wallet, it's not 100% sure that I will ever see it again.

* What you have learnt now, this week, will help you in your next game. Get over the loss, don't forget the lecture!
* I like it, that you are expressing your sadness. Own your emotion. Very good. Work yourself through it - you don't want unresolved issues to play a role next time you need a clear head!

* Be extra careful when you think "whew, let's go all in".  That might mean, you either have fully understood the game, and cannot loose it - or you are tricking yourself into believing something which is too good to be true.  And as it is about the future ... beforehand it IS impossible to know.
* Unless you have a mathematical proof.

* Once I invested 1/3 of what I had, but that was like one of those "mathematical proof" games. And afterwards it was clear: I could have gone "all in"!  Damn!  Still, BEFORE it was fucking risky. The over-dev could have just run off, with actually by the way the same amount of money like it was lost here.  That dev is not a weakling, so he didn't run.  

* The weakling. I am trying to provoke him, and his secret fans, of which there might be a few here. Some very disturbed and lonely people seem to be able to sympathize with him a lot. And not at all with the more naive, but honest victims. Too many Hollywood inspired gangster admirers?  I am not a psychologist - isn't it sociopathic to identify with the scammer?  

* To leave the basic assumptions of truthful communication ... is so unpractical for our situation here, in an online forum - that we need to address it as a community. It is a problem.
* It is only one out of 1000 people or less who is outright criminal in healthier and fairer societies (scroll to the bottom of the chart)   - unless  of course, you introduce drug prohibition, handguns to everyone, an inhumane wealth distribution, and a commercialized prison system in need of daily new "customers".  
* But still - That many people got robbed now, shows that it's not the individual who can solve it. There will always be newbies.  
* BTW: Religions call a lie a sin. An action against yourself.

* No ESCROW for an IPO? = Do not trust! Is what I took from this.  I don't understand why escrow and IPO have until now not gotten "automatically" connected yet - but what do I know, I am still young - perhaps IPOs are new here at all?  Or perhaps there is a big technical or social argument against escrow?  Or is it against the role of conduct in this community to demand escrow?  Aren't there any technical solutions to safely prefinance product development - instead of the "shut up and take my money" IPOs ? There is a discussion about "lockable coins", could they help?  Problems like this can be a beautiful niche for clever programmers to develop a new product!


* Myself, I had about three and a half losses :-) in the past weeks. As I invested only 1/20 to 1/10 that was sad, but did not kill my game completely.

* Powerlessness. I trusted one of the biggest altcoin exchanges, and got ****ed by incompetence, overload - or scamming? I still don't know which one. Sad because powerless.  Very similiar to the feelings towards the confetti weakling, I guess. I trusted a big company. You trusted a dev, because he is a dev, and you are just a small participant in a larger game. How can you not trust him, if all the others do. In 99 out of 100 cases it would have gone through without total loss.
* It's a very difficult situation. Shall I really base all my my life decisions on those 1 out of 100 cases? Almost always, trust is successful.

* Long term promise: The more you learn here, the better your intuition will get, the more techniques you will have. It gets harder and harder to game you totally.

* Another problem - for me: My ideology what "should" be.  I had heard about the 377000% gains of the NXT "IPO-scam", and thought - yeah! Me too!!! So I bought into another IPO which crushed all profits within a blink of an eye; only the ruthless dumpers got out alive - and very happy.  If I had just coldly calculated the situation, instead of supposing what in my idealistic concepts "everyone should do" ... then I would have dumped myself.  But I am still too "young" as a trader to be that cool-minded.

* I avoided quite a few losses, by the way, because I am in touch with my intuition. You will find answers in yourself.

* And YEAH: Now to the happy stories, because I also want to cheer you up. For 6 or 8 weeks, I could not land a huge win. It was superinteresting to learn about this whole new industry, but I did not understand how everyone is making money here. I tried a lotl Nothing really worked. Alright, continue the learning. And then, around week ten, the rewards were coming in, quite suddenly. Since then, I am ... swimming :-)

* I still don't believe all this too be true.  I am reminding myself to go slow.

* And stay ethical. I can be betrayed. But I hope I can not be driven to betray.

* I suggest a thingy right now - In every game I ask the same question: If I win, which group is likely to pay for that?  


I hope you are better again. Thanks for sharing, you inspired a soul over here.

May you soon be swimming, too.  Good luck to you, and your father.

:-)


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EDIT: lots of edits, still. Sorry. Not easy.

Most important add-on:  I am a newbie, myself, second level newbie perhaps? Anyways, I am also new here, came in with the last exchange rate peak. There is so incredibly much that I do not know yet about all this here. Be careful with what I say. Do not follow my advise. Do not follow anyone's advise!  

i will not send you any btc but i invesyed in this stack pyramid scheme and i would love some stake thanks. p.s i hope the stack creator sucks a nut and chokes on eternal pubage

I suggest Americans invest in 'next generation' scrypt ASIC hardware also.

Americans

What happened? Wasn't this the next NXT? The difference between this and NXT? This one went away, NXT sold his virtual coins to Americans for $s and is now a millionare coder.

Great idea. Well done!


blackoakcomputers.com is a VPN service.

So what would be a next step now?

Curious.

To all original investors / victims of the scam, you can make a claim in the just launched "RealStackCoin". I will handle any possible disputes by requiring signed messages or some other verifiable proof of ownership.

Pay a lot of attention don't you?  

Are you high or something? There are no stackcoins available, it was a scam

hes an idiot anyways use coin creator to create a coin with his specific stuff block halfing ect then take the 69btc hes stolen pay o.75 for a coin and release it. simples
but noooooo he just fucks off!!! wanker. i invested 10btc to him.<------i didnt but i feel like i have