thx, and POS block have the same reward - 100 coin as POW ?
Yes. Block rewards are same for PoW and PoS, both 100 TZC.
A difference is that the TTF (time-to-find) targeting is about 1.5 minutes for PoW vs 3 minutes for PoS.
Topic: [ANN][TZC] TrezarCoin Super-Secure-PoW/PoS - page 21. (Read 156623 times)
Yes. Block rewards are same for PoW and PoS, both 100 TZC.
A difference is that the TTF (time-to-find) targeting is about 1.5 minutes for PoW vs 3 minutes for PoS.
The first, sorry for my noob question. But which PoS profit and how regularly payments may I expect for stack of 10k coins ?
Almost nothing... I got 2 POS block in more than 1 month... with the same amount of you...
thx, and POS block have the same reward - 100 coin as POW ?
The first, sorry for my noob question. But which PoS profit and how regularly payments may I expect for stack of 10k coins ?
Almost nothing... I got 2 POS block in more than 1 month... with the same amount of you...
The first, sorry for my noob question. But which PoS profit and how regularly payments may I expect for stack of 10k coins ?
As mentioned in the quoted text above, the min/ave/max is simply a very simplified way of eyeballing input age dispersion in a really basic way, like looking at everything through the lens of "low", "medium", "high". Based on how your inputs are divvied up and their respective ages, 72 hours may not show much change in the allocation across min/ave/max. So I'm not sure what the issue is with whether they changed or not in the time frame you used.
Sorting coins by arbitrary and undocumented age ranges does not simplify anything, it just makes the data even more inscrutable. Now that a few more days have elapsed the total number of inputs is the same - 148 - but they are now sorted as 28 min, 24 avg, 96 max age. Weight in coin-days is now 11798, so at the rate its increasing I ought to be finding a block via staking any day now...
So an update that slightly clarifies matters: After 8 days since the last incoming mining payment I still had 4 inputs in the minimum age bucket. At some point over the next 12 hours - not a full day - those inputs moved to the average age bucket. So it seems that the minimum age extends to somewhat more than 8 days, which is odd to say the least.
Also, weight in coin-days is now up to 13223, for a gain of 1425 in 4 days.
Just passing along an update from the TZC Team, courtesy of claudeloup1 on the Slack over the weekend:
1Minor edits for clarity.
Quote from: claudeloup
Yesterday and over the last few days, we've been reading your comments regarding TZC marketing.
Please be advised that we are building TZC marketing step-by-step. Before advertising, our priority is branding.
We are working to make TZC more attractive on our owned media. This is the first step.
Capturing people's attention is difficult and expensive. Consequently when you succeed, you need first to be strong, clear, and engaging on the channels you control.
In fact, visiting a project's channels is the first thing an investor will usually do. If he doesn't understand or if we don't gain his interest on TZC's channels, he will move on and it will be a complete waste of time and money.
Plus at the moment the whole market is uncertain, Cryptopia is experiencing technical issues, etc.--it's not an optimal time to highlight TZC.
Consequently, during the next weeks, our marketing efforts will focus on:
- Building a narrative to make TZC even more attractive and easy to understand for all investors (junior or senior)
- Redesign the website to introduce and showcase this narrative
- Create a motion design to export TZC's narrative on social media and earned media.
Please know that we are very grateful to the community members who are creating promotional materials for TZC.
We recommend such contributors use and follow the TZC style guidelines included in the LogoManual file.
You can find this document in the Slack files section.
Finally, any promotional material using the TZC logo or brand needs to be shared with the community for approval and/or improvements.
I’m at everyone’s disposal in [Slack] private message for any questions or recommendations.
Thank you very much!
Please be advised that we are building TZC marketing step-by-step. Before advertising, our priority is branding.
We are working to make TZC more attractive on our owned media. This is the first step.
Capturing people's attention is difficult and expensive. Consequently when you succeed, you need first to be strong, clear, and engaging on the channels you control.
In fact, visiting a project's channels is the first thing an investor will usually do. If he doesn't understand or if we don't gain his interest on TZC's channels, he will move on and it will be a complete waste of time and money.
Plus at the moment the whole market is uncertain, Cryptopia is experiencing technical issues, etc.--it's not an optimal time to highlight TZC.
Consequently, during the next weeks, our marketing efforts will focus on:
- Building a narrative to make TZC even more attractive and easy to understand for all investors (junior or senior)
- Redesign the website to introduce and showcase this narrative
- Create a motion design to export TZC's narrative on social media and earned media.
Please know that we are very grateful to the community members who are creating promotional materials for TZC.
We recommend such contributors use and follow the TZC style guidelines included in the LogoManual file.
You can find this document in the Slack files section.
Finally, any promotional material using the TZC logo or brand needs to be shared with the community for approval and/or improvements.
I’m at everyone’s disposal in [Slack] private message for any questions or recommendations.
Thank you very much!
1Minor edits for clarity.
Guys,
Where are you trading TZC? I used to trade on Coinsmarkets (of which I've lost close to 2000 TZC thanks to those A-holes) but I haven't found a new place to trade. LTC/TZC is shut down at Cryptopia and the sending fees for BTC are still stupid.
Where are you trading TZC? I used to trade on Coinsmarkets (of which I've lost close to 2000 TZC thanks to those A-holes) but I haven't found a new place to trade. LTC/TZC is shut down at Cryptopia and the sending fees for BTC are still stupid.
I know some people trade LTC (or some other coins) in to an exchange, use that exchange to trade LTCBTC and then trade the alts--to avoid those BTC fees and slowness. Also, TZC should be listed on Stocks.Exchange and Nova, in addition to Coinsmarkets and Cryptopia. Volume/liquidity may be lower there though.
Good luck with your trading!
Thats' exactly what I'm currently doing. I checked Nova and there's no volume but looks like hope on Stocks Exchange. Thanks!
Guys,
Where are you trading TZC? I used to trade on Coinsmarkets (of which I've lost close to 2000 TZC thanks to those A-holes) but I haven't found a new place to trade. LTC/TZC is shut down at Cryptopia and the sending fees for BTC are still stupid.
Where are you trading TZC? I used to trade on Coinsmarkets (of which I've lost close to 2000 TZC thanks to those A-holes) but I haven't found a new place to trade. LTC/TZC is shut down at Cryptopia and the sending fees for BTC are still stupid.
I know some people trade LTC (or some other coins) in to an exchange, use that exchange to trade LTCBTC and then trade the alts--to avoid those BTC fees and slowness. Also, TZC should be listed on Stocks.Exchange and Nova, in addition to Coinsmarkets and Cryptopia. Volume/liquidity may be lower there though.
Good luck with your trading!
Guys,
Where are you trading TZC? I used to trade on Coinsmarkets (of which I've lost close to 2000 TZC thanks to those A-holes) but I haven't found a new place to trade. LTC/TZC is shut down at Cryptopia and the sending fees for BTC are still stupid.
Where are you trading TZC? I used to trade on Coinsmarkets (of which I've lost close to 2000 TZC thanks to those A-holes) but I haven't found a new place to trade. LTC/TZC is shut down at Cryptopia and the sending fees for BTC are still stupid.
Hi guys,
there's a new multipool with Trezarcoin coin.
Try it: https://www.joinmycrypto.tk
Pimp it with your hashrate!
Regards
there's a new multipool with Trezarcoin coin.
Try it: https://www.joinmycrypto.tk
Pimp it with your hashrate!
Regards
As mentioned in the quoted text above, the min/ave/max is simply a very simplified way of eyeballing input age dispersion in a really basic way, like looking at everything through the lens of "low", "medium", "high". Based on how your inputs are divvied up and their respective ages, 72 hours may not show much change in the allocation across min/ave/max. So I'm not sure what the issue is with whether they changed or not in the time frame you used.
Sorting coins by arbitrary and undocumented age ranges does not simplify anything, it just makes the data even more inscrutable. Now that a few more days have elapsed the total number of inputs is the same - 148 - but they are now sorted as 28 min, 24 avg, 96 max age. Weight in coin-days is now 11798, so at the rate its increasing I ought to be finding a block via staking any day now...
If you don't like the "basic" info presented by the min/ave/max organization, the coin-days you mention is the more "precise" value related to your inputs and their age.
I don't much like "coin-days," either, because it is almost as inscrutable. I did eventually find out that is the staking equivalent of hashrate, but without units or a difficulty equation it's not unlike telling a deaf man that sad songs are composed in minor keys...
Now I just need to translate "weight in coin-days" into hashrate to be able to use (presumably) the standard reward estimation equation:
Reward per Day = (86400 * Hash/s * Block Reward) / (Difficulty * 4295032833)
Reward per Day = (86400 * Hash/s * Block Reward) / (Difficulty * 4295032833)
Unfortunately, I am not able to verify whether that equation is applicable to the PoS calculations or how a weight-to-hashrate conversion might work if it is applicable. Hopefully either a dev who does will see this message at some point and let us know, or if you desire a more timely response you could try hopping into the Slack/Discord and asking.
Fair enough. I'm not pressing for a more timely response - clearly I will be waiting a long time for any reward from staking (and will likely do a lot more mining in the meantime) - just a more accurate/informative/comprehensive one.
I'll be honest, your message kind of came across as though you were in a bad mood.
...
...
Nah, you're taking me too seriously again, despite my previous comments concerning the same. I am busting your chops a little, but the goal is to break through the usual lethargy/inertia/resistance to change, rather than attack you personally.
Should I ever get my TZC to my wallet ? Its been stuck on "Cryptopia" withdrawal ( Pending ) for around 24 hours now. I don't know what to do. Some one experienced this situation before ?
Thanks
Thanks
Sadly your experience is not rare with that exchange
You will have to contact them to try to get it sorted.
Their Discord is here:
https://discord.gg/vZUM6K6
Good luck!
Should I ever get my TZC to my wallet ? Its been stuck on "Cryptopia" withdrawal ( Pending ) for around 24 hours now. I don't know what to do. Some one experienced this situation before ?
Thanks
Thanks
Sadly your experience is not rare with that exchange
You will have to contact them to try to get it sorted.
Their Discord is here:
https://discord.gg/vZUM6K6
Good luck!
Should I ever get my TZC to my wallet ? Its been stuck on "Cryptopia" withdrawal ( Pending ) for around 24 hours now. I don't know what to do. Some one experienced this situation before ?
Thanks
Thanks
Is there any plans abot TZC being accepted by some shop ? I cannot see a better way to spread voice about a coin...
You can reserve and pay for hotels ( Available only on Expedia) with TZC. It is an external integration which allows to reserve travel accommodation quickly and easily. There will be more news i am sure coming up from team.
Is there any plans abot TZC being accepted by some shop ? I cannot see a better way to spread voice about a coin...
Hello everybody. Am I right that POS is working right now? And what is a minimum amount of coins need to be in wallet to get rewards?
Minimum amount to stake is 200 Coins. - The % gains is about 15-18% yearly, so you should have 150k-200k to get a staking reward daily.
Kindly regards,
ChekaZ
Hi Cheka,
When you say minimum amount to stake is 200 Coins.
Are you saying inputs below 200 Coins are ignored completely? Or just that it's very unlikely to get a reward?
Cheers
Andy
You wont be able to stake with less than 200 Coins input.
Hello everybody. Am I right that POS is working right now? And what is a minimum amount of coins need to be in wallet to get rewards?
Minimum amount to stake is 200 Coins. - The % gains is about 15-18% yearly, so you should have 150k-200k to get a staking reward daily.
Kindly regards,
ChekaZ
Hi Cheka,
When you say minimum amount to stake is 200 Coins.
Are you saying inputs below 200 Coins are ignored completely? Or just that it's very unlikely to get a reward?
Cheers
Andy
The min, ave, max age are just a way of saying low, medium, high maturity. I don't remember the exact breakdown, but maybe inputs from 1-8 days in age may be min, 8-16 days ave, and 16+ days max? Anyway, it's just a 3-bucket way of considering your inputs and their age.
lolwut?! You mean to say that what the wallet reports is completely made up, arbitrary and inscrutable??? Hmm, that sounds familiar, yes... Your inputs that are under 24 hrs old (or perhaps 72 hrs if you don't have a conf on the original version wallet) are probably not being included in the count (e.g., the 148 you mentioned). Also, there may be a minimum input size to stake, but I have not gotten solid confirmation on that. So if that is true, inputs that are too small would not count either, theoretically.
Right, so I waited yet another day to ensure that the youngest input would be >72 hours old and, whaddya know, the mix of min/avg/max has not changed at all (52/1/95). My weight in coin-days has increased to 10626, so in the immortal words of Bill Murray in Caddyshack, I got that going for me.As mentioned in the quoted text above, the min/ave/max is simply a very simplified way of eyeballing input age dispersion in a really basic way, like looking at everything through the lens of "low", "medium", "high". Based on how your inputs are divvied up and their respective ages, 72 hours may not show much change in the allocation across min/ave/max. So I'm not sure what the issue is with whether they changed or not in the time frame you used.
If you don't like the "basic" info presented by the min/ave/max organization, the coin-days you mention is the more "precise" value related to your inputs and their age.
Based on what you seem to be describing--a fair likelihood of many small inputs--it might be worth taking a moment to sweep up the tiny ones into larger inputs. You will reset the ages of any inputs you merge, but I think it would probably be worth it.
Well, just when I thought I couldn't be any more confused now you say that merging lots of little inputs into a larger one will reset their age but somehow be worth doing?
For the reason mentioned in the same earlier message (as well as potentially others):
My understanding as of now is that "weight in coin-days" is the staking analog of mining hashrate...
Fwiw, that is my understanding as well and the same analogy I use when explaining coin-days and weight.
Now I just need to translate "weight in coin-days" into hashrate to be able to use (presumably) the standard reward estimation equation:
Reward per Day = (86400 * Hash/s * Block Reward) / (Difficulty * 4295032833)
Reward per Day = (86400 * Hash/s * Block Reward) / (Difficulty * 4295032833)
Unfortunately, I am not able to verify whether that equation is applicable to the PoS calculations or how a weight-to-hashrate conversion might work if it is applicable. Hopefully either a dev who does will see this message at some point and let us know, or if you desire a more timely response you could try hopping into the Slack/Discord and asking.
Please be aware that regardless of whether they are set right or not, a total coin balance of 1000 will probably take months or longer to hit a PoS stake--of course, if you are particularly lucky it could happen much sooner. 
*Groan* This is like pulling teeth, I tell ya. I don't want some nebulous estimate from *you*, I want to do the estimating myself. I'm pretty sure all the info is there, I just need some help getting the units/magnitudes right.
I'll be honest, your message kind of came across as though you were in a bad mood.
I have attempted to answer your question(s) in a friendly and thorough manner, at least to the best of my limited ability.
However, you appear irritated and somewhat combative as though you had been given a poor, demeaning, or dismissive response.
As such, I wasn't sure about the value of responding any further.
But I decided I'd give it one more shot in case my impression was off-base--hopefully that is the case.
Hopefully you checked up on inputs/outputs/etc., as that will help any communication/understanding.
I know what an input is *supposed* to be, I just can't figure out what it is w/r/t TZC.
Every time your wallet has received a payment, for example a small mining pool payout, that will represent an input. That is probably why you have so many inputs.
Note that inputs, while associated with addresses, are not 1-to-1 with an address. You can have many inputs under the same, single address.
Note that inputs, while associated with addresses, are not 1-to-1 with an address. You can have many inputs under the same, single address.
Mmm-hmmm. I didn't ask about this, but ok. Nothing controversial here.
The min, ave, max age are just a way of saying low, medium, high maturity. I don't remember the exact breakdown, but maybe inputs from 1-8 days in age may be min, 8-16 days ave, and 16+ days max? Anyway, it's just a 3-bucket way of considering your inputs and their age.
lolwut?! You mean to say that what the wallet reports is completely made up, arbitrary and inscrutable??? Hmm, that sounds familiar, yes...
Your inputs that are under 24 hrs old (or perhaps 72 hrs if you don't have a conf on the original version wallet) are probably not being included in the count (e.g., the 148 you mentioned). Also, there may be a minimum input size to stake, but I have not gotten solid confirmation on that. So if that is true, inputs that are too small would not count either, theoretically.
Right, so I waited yet another day to ensure that the youngest input would be >72 hours old and, whaddya know, the mix of min/avg/max has not changed at all (52/1/95). My weight in coin-days has increased to 10626, so in the immortal words of Bill Murray in Caddyshack, I got that going for me.
Based on what you seem to be describing--a fair likelihood of many small inputs--it might be worth taking a moment to sweep up the tiny ones into larger inputs. You will reset the ages of any inputs you merge, but I think it would probably be worth it.
Well, just when I thought I couldn't be any more confused now you say that merging lots of little inputs into a larger one will reset their age but somehow be worth doing?
Please be aware that regardless of whether they are set right or not, a total coin balance of 1000 will probably take months or longer to hit a PoS stake--of course, if you are particularly lucky it could happen much sooner.
*Groan* This is like pulling teeth, I tell ya. I don't want some nebulous estimate from *you*, I want to do the estimating myself. I'm pretty sure all the info is there, I just need some help getting the units/magnitudes right.
My understanding as of now is that "weight in coin-days" is the staking analog of mining hashrate, and, of course, the PoS and PoW difficulties are reported by the green checkmark. Now I just need to translate "weight in coin-days" into hashrate to be able to use (presumably) the standard reward estimation equation:
Reward per Day = (86400 * Hash/s * Block Reward) / (Difficulty * 4295032833)
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