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hero member
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Sold all my coins at 300 sats waiting for the right time to dump!

Lol you knobhead! Everyone knows you got rekd on SBIT and VIOR (and 5 other coins going by the quote on your profile) whilst bashing on this project and its Dev

Feels nice seeing the price rise knowing a scumbag like you is getting hurt cos he sold his coins for 300 sat Cheesy
full member
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@vtorrent

Any reason why you didn't froked https://github.com/vtorrent/vTorrent-Client from ShadowCoin, or whatever coin you took as source.

This is considered as "bad practise", because all the git history is lost!

We cannot verify you didn't made any malicious changes to the original source code.
Not forking implies either bad intentions or lack of skills.


Anyway I like your project and hope it succeeds, but the people here should get some good answers.
hero member
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Fall seven times, stand up eight.
Bought all my coins at 300 sats waiting for the right time to dump!
member
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Also I am a member of some very large private torrent groups that have been around for years. IPTORRENTS.COM ... etc I can put word out there and get these guys over here. They will have many great ideas and a lot of good content to bring on board. Iptorrents.com is an amazing site btw.

Always good to hear the opinions from some experienced people in the field.
legendary
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*We will need some kind of rating system for the community to filter out bad torrents.

*SEEDERS WILL NEED GOOD INCENTIVES TO KEEP TORRENTS HEALTHY

* We will need a way to moderate the torrents somehow so it doesn't get filled up with viruses and spam. I think the only way to do this would be a rating system? Also I am a member of some very large private torrent groups that have been around for years. IPTORRENTS.COM ... etc I can put word out there and get these guys over here. They will have many great ideas and a lot of good content to bring on board. Iptorrents.com is an amazing site btw. All about speed and rewarding its seeders to encourage a healthy community.

Regarding incentivized seeding, I completely agree, this would create a very healthy community and prevent wasted space from spammy torrents or dead links with no host.

One option I have frequently thought about:

Many private trackers utilize seed/leech ratios. A project like vTorrent could easily incorporate something similar using a platform token (VTR) to maintain ratios. For instance, seeders get rewarded VTR from purse of individual leeching/receiving the file. Upon connecting to a peer, a smart contract is initialized that binds the downloader/recipient of the file to reimburse the seeder proportional to their contributions. Once the file is complete, contract is fulfilled and all seeders are sent tokens proportional to the MB they successfully seeded to the client which downloaded the file. I haven't yet figured out how decide on an agreeable rate of MB/VTR ...possibly incorporating the current exchange rate? Only other option I see working to maintain equilibrium is by implementing a nuBits type of systems...as you wouldn't want to create a barrier to entry for individuals who cant afford to buy tokens and can't earn any by uploading new content.

Just a thought experiment, but I do see an awfully large potential.


Great to see a community putting ideas and great observations together.
sr. member
Activity: 479
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*We will need some kind of rating system for the community to filter out bad torrents.

*SEEDERS WILL NEED GOOD INCENTIVES TO KEEP TORRENTS HEALTHY

* We will need a way to moderate the torrents somehow so it doesn't get filled up with viruses and spam. I think the only way to do this would be a rating system? Also I am a member of some very large private torrent groups that have been around for years. IPTORRENTS.COM ... etc I can put word out there and get these guys over here. They will have many great ideas and a lot of good content to bring on board. Iptorrents.com is an amazing site btw. All about speed and rewarding its seeders to encourage a healthy community.

Regarding incentivized seeding, I completely agree, this would create a very healthy community and prevent wasted space from spammy torrents or dead links with no host.

One option I have frequently thought about:

Many private trackers utilize seed/leech ratios. A project like vTorrent could easily incorporate something similar using a platform token (VTR) to maintain ratios. For instance, seeders get rewarded VTR from purse of individual leeching/receiving the file. Upon connecting to a peer, a smart contract is initialized that binds the downloader/recipient of the file to reimburse the seeder proportional to their contributions. Once the file is complete, contract is fulfilled and all seeders are sent tokens proportional to the MB they successfully seeded to the client which downloaded the file. I haven't yet figured out how decide on an agreeable rate of MB/VTR ...possibly incorporating the current exchange rate? Only other option I see working to maintain equilibrium is by implementing a nuBits type of systems...as you wouldn't want to create a barrier to entry for individuals who cant afford to buy tokens and can't earn any by uploading new content.

Just a thought experiment, but I do see an awfully large potential.
hero member
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(Dev said 2 weeks if beta goes well?).....let's hope it does

Read through his post history. I'm not sure he said what you are hoping for.

This isn't a quick out the door pump n'dump project.

Yep, Ive been here since week 1 of mining and still holding 75% of my original coins, this coin has been under the radar and thankfully void of any pump n dump so far, we've had a nice healthy rise since the hundreds and settling in new higher ranges every few weeks

Keep up the hard work Dev and we will all be rewarded in due time
newbie
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@coins101

If VTR succeeds it will make torrents invulnerable to takedowns.
But people torrenting will still be tracked down, so it is not the full solution.
You will still need a vpn service.

I guess that is why Mega build encryption into their uploads and therefore downloads.......

so why can't you have VPN & torrent client capabilities built into vTorrent? A one stop shop! Other coins are adding VPN, why not vTorrent!

I agree that rights holders are about to get much more vigorous prosecuting jo & jane citizen to create a deterrent effect, and when that happens people aren't going to feel good about paying for stuff they've been getting for free, especially under 30's who'll freak out if they were suddenly charged  $30 for a CD, which is what I used to pay regularly in my younger days.

Whoever offers a user friendly one-stop-shop that offers anon torrent downloading will seriously clean up. Might as well be vTorrent!

edit: as an aside, IMO the only viable route for rights holders is to buy out ISP's on a global scale, then 'tax' everyone via their broadband charges. Like a VAT or GST charged on every MB downloaded, so digital content is given away free, but everyone pays a little bit for genuine distribution to copyright holders. Can anyone seriously be downloading 100 GB a month without downloading a lot of movies, music etc?

Hello all,

Unfortunately, ancientOne1 is right about this issue, I don't have any plan to prevent problem with ISP tracking down users downloading or uploading illegal content with torrent at this point, but when we have torrent implemented in our client, torrents should be invulnerable to takedowns.

Keep in mind that any feature can be implement in the future, there will likely be many more functions add to our client to improve functionalities and not limited to torrents.

My ultimate goal is to bring in and introduce new people to crypto-currency with our project and our currency.

Regards,

vTorrent


This. +100. Smart dev with us.


*We will need some kind of rating system for the community to filter out bad torrents.

*SEEDERS WILL NEED GOOD INCENTIVES TO KEEP TORRENTS HEALTHY

* We will need a way to moderate the torrents somehow so it doesn't get filled up with viruses and spam. I think the only way to do this would be a rating system? Also I am a member of some very large private torrent groups that have been around for years. IPTORRENTS.COM ... etc I can put word out there and get these guys over here. They will have many great ideas and a lot of good content to bring on board. Iptorrents.com is an amazing site btw. All about speed and rewarding its seeders to encourage a healthy community.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
Quote
(Dev said 2 weeks if beta goes well?).....let's hope it does

Read through his post history. I'm not sure he said what you are hoping for.

This isn't a quick out the door pump n'dump project.
newbie
Activity: 56
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Its very easy to be blinkered by Bitcoin, but torrents are the biggest use of p2p:



And you can legally download torrent software:

http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0.html?query=torrent&platform=Windows&searchtype=downloads&sort=downloadCount~desc

And this is one of the leading projects working in this new space.

Dev - When you are ready, please think about finding a way to list vTorrent on download.com

Even in Beta form, we could have 1m to 10m users within 12 months.


Would be huge. Looking forward to an update around the 22nd of this month.

(Dev said 2 weeks if beta goes well?).....let's hope it does
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
Its very easy to be blinkered by Bitcoin, but torrents are the biggest use of p2p:



And you can legally download torrent software:

http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0.html?query=torrent&platform=Windows&searchtype=downloads&sort=downloadCount~desc

And this is one of the leading projects working in this new space.

Dev - When you are ready, please think about finding a way to list vTorrent on download.com

Even in Beta form, we could have 1m to 10m users within 12 months.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
speaking of torrents... any reason we shouldn't be able to download the blockchain (using the VTR client) in the same manor we would any other file using bitTorrent protocol? To allow super fast syncing? This seems to be a prevalent issue in the cryptosphere. Is the real problem here just not enough nodes? Or is it the manor in which the blockchain is transmitted and pieced back together?

As of Bitcoin Core version 0.10.0 or later, Bitcoin Core now uses ‘headers-first synchronization’. Which on initial sync, block headers will be first download from peer and when the headers have been validate, client will start downloading the blocks in parallel from all available peers which is very similar to how torrent works.

Upgrading core code of vTorrent to 0.10.0 in next major version would be better solution for fast syncing.

Thank you for your suggestion.

Regards,

vTorrent


Will seeders get paid?

There needs to be incentive for seeders
hero member
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Just as to vouch for this developer:

I am an early user of vTorrent and had one of my wallets lock out (password bug which has since been fixed); I provided the dev my password and waited patiently thinking the project had been scrapped.

I got busy with work but after finally being able to sit down and get vTorrent sync'd up I was able to open up my wallet again and find all of my original funds in my wallet.

A big thanks to the dev for fixing this issue.
full member
Activity: 195
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speaking of torrents... any reason we shouldn't be able to download the blockchain (using the VTR client) in the same manor we would any other file using bitTorrent protocol? To allow super fast syncing? This seems to be a prevalent issue in the cryptosphere. Is the real problem here just not enough nodes? Or is it the manor in which the blockchain is transmitted and pieced back together?

As of Bitcoin Core version 0.10.0 or later, Bitcoin Core now uses ‘headers-first synchronization’. Which on initial sync, block headers will be first download from peer and when the headers have been validate, client will start downloading the blocks in parallel from all available peers which is very similar to how torrent works.

Upgrading core code of vTorrent to 0.10.0 in next major version would be better solution for fast syncing.

Thank you for your suggestion.

Regards,

vTorrent
sr. member
Activity: 479
Merit: 250
speaking of torrents... any reason we shouldn't be able to download the blockchain (using the VTR client) in the same manor we would any other file using bitTorrent protocol? To allow super fast syncing? This seems to be a prevalent issue in the cryptosphere. Is the real problem here just not enough nodes? Or is it the manor in which the blockchain is transmitted and pieced back together?
newbie
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Really looking forward to this beta. This is going to be
HUGE for crypto if the Dev is really capable of pulling this off
legendary
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SoNiC BooM
I take it that development is nearly at the stage where this thread can be locked and all communications can be made via the wallet's encrypted communications channels.

If that is the case, I suggest that Proof of Support is enabled and that only those with a balance greater than 10,000 VTR can be included in the devs communications channels on project development / updates.

What exactly is "Proof of Support" here (it usually means running X nodes to support the network)?

Specifically in terms of staying in touch when you guys "lock the thread".

I suppose, saying "Proof of Support" coins101 meant the "proof of share ownership" (10,000 VTR).

Don't think "locking the thread" and switching to private conversation is a good idea. It might be good for investors and for big "whales" who are supposed to join, but is bad for coin, its acceptance, and is not in accordance with open-source, open-discussion approaches, and in general looks strange in crypto world, where "open"-ness and decentralization are the keys.

I'd be ok to lower the Proof of Support to 1 or 2 BTC equivalent.

Anyone showing proof of support can still see what is being discussed and they can participate.

Why do it? See:

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-forum-bitcointalk-org-receives-answers-first-subpoena-doj/


What torrents has to do with Heroin? nothing.

What do I have with USA judicial territory?  nothing.

You are being to paranoid or smoking too much weed man  Grin

http://torrentfreak.com/torrent-sites-shut-down-after-swedish-police-arrest-five-150213/


That is more like it ...but believe it or not personally I'm not interested in dl/seeding any movies, music or porn - there are much serious content that can be shared with others
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
I take it that development is nearly at the stage where this thread can be locked and all communications can be made via the wallet's encrypted communications channels.

If that is the case, I suggest that Proof of Support is enabled and that only those with a balance greater than 10,000 VTR can be included in the devs communications channels on project development / updates.

What exactly is "Proof of Support" here (it usually means running X nodes to support the network)?

Specifically in terms of staying in touch when you guys "lock the thread".

I suppose, saying "Proof of Support" coins101 meant the "proof of share ownership" (10,000 VTR).

Don't think "locking the thread" and switching to private conversation is a good idea. It might be good for investors and for big "whales" who are supposed to join, but is bad for coin, its acceptance, and is not in accordance with open-source, open-discussion approaches, and in general looks strange in crypto world, where "open"-ness and decentralization are the keys.

I'd be ok to lower the Proof of Support to 1 or 2 BTC equivalent.

Anyone showing proof of support can still see what is being discussed and they can participate.

Why do it? See:

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-forum-bitcointalk-org-receives-answers-first-subpoena-doj/


What torrents has to do with Heroin? nothing.

What do I have with USA judicial territory?  nothing.

You are being to paranoid or smoking too much weed man  Grin

http://torrentfreak.com/torrent-sites-shut-down-after-swedish-police-arrest-five-150213/
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
SoNiC BooM
I take it that development is nearly at the stage where this thread can be locked and all communications can be made via the wallet's encrypted communications channels.

If that is the case, I suggest that Proof of Support is enabled and that only those with a balance greater than 10,000 VTR can be included in the devs communications channels on project development / updates.

What exactly is "Proof of Support" here (it usually means running X nodes to support the network)?

Specifically in terms of staying in touch when you guys "lock the thread".

I suppose, saying "Proof of Support" coins101 meant the "proof of share ownership" (10,000 VTR).

Don't think "locking the thread" and switching to private conversation is a good idea. It might be good for investors and for big "whales" who are supposed to join, but is bad for coin, its acceptance, and is not in accordance with open-source, open-discussion approaches, and in general looks strange in crypto world, where "open"-ness and decentralization are the keys.

I'd be ok to lower the Proof of Support to 1 or 2 BTC equivalent.

Anyone showing proof of support can still see what is being discussed and they can participate.

Why do it? See:

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-forum-bitcointalk-org-receives-answers-first-subpoena-doj/


What torrents has to do with Heroin? nothing.

What do I have with USA judicial territory?  nothing.

You are being to paranoid or smoking too much weed man  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
I take it that development is nearly at the stage where this thread can be locked and all communications can be made via the wallet's encrypted communications channels.

If that is the case, I suggest that Proof of Support is enabled and that only those with a balance greater than 10,000 VTR can be included in the devs communications channels on project development / updates.

What exactly is "Proof of Support" here (it usually means running X nodes to support the network)?

Specifically in terms of staying in touch when you guys "lock the thread".

I suppose, saying "Proof of Support" coins101 meant the "proof of share ownership" (10,000 VTR).

Don't think "locking the thread" and switching to private conversation is a good idea. It might be good for investors and for big "whales" who are supposed to join, but is bad for coin, its acceptance, and is not in accordance with open-source, open-discussion approaches, and in general looks strange in crypto world, where "open"-ness and decentralization are the keys.

I'd be ok to lower the Proof of Support to 1 or 2 BTC equivalent.

Anyone showing proof of support can still see what is being discussed and they can participate.

Why do it? See:

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-forum-bitcointalk-org-receives-answers-first-subpoena-doj/
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