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Quote from: wcuz on August 06, 2014, 08:45:56 PM

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Cryptonite is highly experimental software and the concepts underpinning it lack extensive testing and analysis. Cryptonite is a fork of the Bitcoin core but the code has been extensively modified and expanded upon. It may look quite similar to Bitcoin on the surface but things work very differently under the hood. As such, you should use Cryptonite with caution and diligence until the code base has been properly reviewed and the robustness of the network has been established. We provide no guarantees or warranty, but in the event where something does go wrong with the network we will do our best to recover the situation and maintain all address balances so that losses are minimized.

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If what they say is indeed true then they are in big trouble, first of all they are using an account tree + blockchain which I would guess only inflate the blockchain size in the beginning and only make it smaller as more dust transactions are pruned from the blockchain (effectively breaking it) not the mention all the huge security problems that are bound to occur at one point or another.

Our implementation of the reduced blockchain uses an account tree, a mini-blockchain (which isn't even a blockchain) and a proof chain, the proof chain is the only infinite part of the blockchain but it would barely increase in size over years of use even at frequent blocks. Not only is our solution, as secure as the original blockchain, decentrallized, doesn't expose additional attack vectors and compresses the blockchain to be smaller than any other blockchain before by orders of magnitute it will be delivered tested and stable.

I can't say anything for sure since I haven't seen their whitepaper but it will certainly be interesting to see how it goes forward.

In any case let the kids be kids and let the scientists do their research in peace.

http://nud.fi/forums/index.php?topic=31.msg61#msg61

lol they just described the mini-blockchain scheme, and they even used words like "account tree" and "proof chain". They just copied text straight out of our wiki and act like it's their idea. That is 100% proof NUD is a scam. Their comment at the end is ironic, considering they have not yet implemented anything and we actually have something to show for our research and effort. People should avoid this NUD scam at all costs.

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It was only the wind.

You have to wait a bit for the hashrate to stabilize with the GPU miner. I waited about the same length of time, more than 2x hashrate and more than 2x shares submitted. Also higher efficiency, although that is debatable over a short runtime. (nsfw as usual)

https://ottrbutt.com/tmp/xcncudastock.png vs https://ottrbutt.com/tmp/xcncudawolf.png

I know it can do more, though...

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Quote from: ajeef on August 06, 2014, 09:40:10 PM

Quote from: ltcnim on August 06, 2014, 09:35:43 PM

the problem is not the blockchain. my wallet got corrupted after i restarted the QT client (it did NOT crash, it was shut down properly) and is not readable by the wallet anymore. I now tried five older versions, every time I start the client it tells me the wallet.dat is corrupted and not repairable. then wallet.dat gets renamed.

del all,use old version,old block chain,old wallet.dat.you'll get your coin back

again, I already tried that. The client can't load the old wallet.dat. even if you delete everything except for the wallet.dat, the client says that the wallet.dat is corrupted and can't be repaired. after that, the qt-wallet crashes...

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Quote from: ltcnim on August 06, 2014, 09:35:43 PM

the problem is not the blockchain. my wallet got corrupted after i restarted the QT client (it did NOT crash, it was shut down properly) and is not readable by the wallet anymore. I now tried five older versions, every time I start the client it tells me the wallet.dat is corrupted and not repairable. then wallet.dat gets renamed.

del all,use old version,old block chain,old wallet.dat.you'll get your coin back

ltcnim

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Quote from: ajeef on August 06, 2014, 09:12:35 PM

Quote from: ltcnim on August 06, 2014, 09:05:38 PM

i'm still looking for a solution. lost around 120 coins that way. i don't want to think about someone losing thousands due to that bug.

use old version,old block chain.if you want,i'll upload block chain
https://mega.co.nz/#!c49TETSQ!mp8TzrPLH0tJmdvaPFDRFRwz2eFPJnBOHHOqjl1q2B0

the problem is not the blockchain. my wallet got corrupted after i restarted the QT client (it did NOT crash, it was shut down properly) and is not readable by the wallet anymore. I now tried five older versions, every time I start the client it tells me the wallet.dat is corrupted and not repairable. then wallet.dat gets renamed.

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Quote from: tmbp on August 06, 2014, 08:02:37 PM

Quote from: catia on August 06, 2014, 06:55:16 PM

Quote from: tmbp on August 06, 2014, 06:38:02 PM

What if I told you I have a Core i7 with a 32bit system and not everyone that buys a processor that supports 64bit will install 64bit? CRAZY RIGHT?!?!?!?!??!?!?

China is strong into crypto now, most of china has 32bit, if you're a dumbass that can't put 1 + 1 together then that doesn't mean I can't call you out on it. Only the elite is smart enough to form opinions and I do well to spread mine. If you don't like it open your own forum and moderate it.

Run that pirated XP all you want. By doing so your choosing not to run cryptonite. Or at least not to compile it, or pay someone to compile it. If you think stupid people don't have opinions, you obviously have not read this forum. So I'm going to go to the head now and work on something productive.

I am on Windows 7, how does 64bit prevent from people pirating? Interesting theory...

What I have said is that stupid people (aka the majority) can't FORM opinions, they can still propagate others opinions.

Then why not install W7 64bit? It's not like it is "newer" than the 32bit version, and also not a crash haven like XP 64bit. You sure not XP? Win7 prevents pirating. XP is free for all who don't want updates.

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Quote from: ltcnim on August 06, 2014, 09:05:38 PM

i'm still looking for a solution. lost around 120 coins that way. i don't want to think about someone losing thousands due to that bug.

use old version,old block chain.if you want,i'll upload block chain
https://mega.co.nz/#!c49TETSQ!mp8TzrPLH0tJmdvaPFDRFRwz2eFPJnBOHHOqjl1q2B0

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Quote from: ltcnim on August 06, 2014, 09:05:38 PM

Quote from: ltcnim on August 06, 2014, 03:58:46 PM

win7 x64 problem:

i had a fresh install of the wallet, started syncing and used the initial address for mining @ 1gh. the wallet got stuck at some "trie" stuff (for over 6h) so I restarted the qt-wallet. Now it says my wallet.dat is corrupted, and can't be repaired. the wallet.dat file is getting renamed and a new one is created. all my mined coins are gone. there are generally a lot of runtime exceptions and messages when operating the wallet.

how can I get my coins back? looks like there is no checkwallet/repairwallet implemented.

Code:

Page 0: metadata page corrupted
Page 0: could not check metadata page
wallet.dat: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database verification failed
file unknown has LSN 1/3132, past end of log at 1/1076
Commonly caused by moving a database from one database environment
to another without clearing the database LSNs, or by removing all of
the log files from a database environment

looks like a critical bug in the QT wallet which kills the wallet.dat

Edit: salvagewallet did not work either

i'm still looking for a solution. lost around 120 coins that way. i don't want to think about someone losing thousands due to that bug.

My friend's wallet corrupted too.

ltcnim

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Quote from: ltcnim on August 06, 2014, 03:58:46 PM

win7 x64 problem:

i had a fresh install of the wallet, started syncing and used the initial address for mining @ 1gh. the wallet got stuck at some "trie" stuff (for over 6h) so I restarted the qt-wallet. Now it says my wallet.dat is corrupted, and can't be repaired. the wallet.dat file is getting renamed and a new one is created. all my mined coins are gone. there are generally a lot of runtime exceptions and messages when operating the wallet.

how can I get my coins back? looks like there is no checkwallet/repairwallet implemented.

Code:

Page 0: metadata page corrupted
Page 0: could not check metadata page
wallet.dat: DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database verification failed
file unknown has LSN 1/3132, past end of log at 1/1076
Commonly caused by moving a database from one database environment
to another without clearing the database LSNs, or by removing all of
the log files from a database environment

looks like a critical bug in the QT wallet which kills the wallet.dat

Edit: salvagewallet did not work either

i'm still looking for a solution. lost around 120 coins that way. i don't want to think about someone losing thousands due to that bug.

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Please don't post addresses in the thread, only in signatures. That period is over.

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Free $XCN !!!!!!!!!

The next 20 people to post what they like about the mini-blockchain scheme, and have a valid XCN address in their signature will get 100 free coins. *

* Fine Print: You must follow both of the terms above. I have the right to deny anyone the prize for any reason, including "I just don't like you". The most quality answer(s) may receive a bonus Grin

thanks for free XCNs!

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wcuz

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Cryptonite is highly experimental software and the concepts underpinning it lack extensive testing and analysis. Cryptonite is a fork of the Bitcoin core but the code has been extensively modified and expanded upon. It may look quite similar to Bitcoin on the surface but things work very differently under the hood. As such, you should use Cryptonite with caution and diligence until the code base has been properly reviewed and the robustness of the network has been established. We provide no guarantees or warranty, but in the event where something does go wrong with the network we will do our best to recover the situation and maintain all address balances so that losses are minimized.

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If what they say is indeed true then they are in big trouble, first of all they are using an account tree + blockchain which I would guess only inflate the blockchain size in the beginning and only make it smaller as more dust transactions are pruned from the blockchain (effectively breaking it) not the mention all the huge security problems that are bound to occur at one point or another.

Our implementation of the reduced blockchain uses an account tree, a mini-blockchain (which isn't even a blockchain) and a proof chain, the proof chain is the only infinite part of the blockchain but it would barely increase in size over years of use even at frequent blocks. Not only is our solution, as secure as the original blockchain, decentrallized, doesn't expose additional attack vectors and compresses the blockchain to be smaller than any other blockchain before by orders of magnitute it will be delivered tested and stable.

I can't say anything for sure since I haven't seen their whitepaper but it will certainly be interesting to see how it goes forward.

In any case let the kids be kids and let the scientists do their research in peace.

http://nud.fi/forums/index.php?topic=31.msg61#msg61

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Quote from: djslick on August 06, 2014, 06:49:18 PM

lol this coin's still here?

as i already said, re-launch with a real algo and you have a chance of being relevant in a week's time.

at least it's somewhat comforting that the guy who controls 20% of all mining will be eating all those electric costs xD

I'd like to see somebody do something, because i'm holding a shitload of this coin, and atm there is NO market for it. That's not how a coin backed months of research and all kinds of cool technology is supposed to end up. I think we can all agree on that.

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Quote from: catia on August 06, 2014, 06:55:16 PM

Quote from: tmbp on August 06, 2014, 06:38:02 PM

What if I told you I have a Core i7 with a 32bit system and not everyone that buys a processor that supports 64bit will install 64bit? CRAZY RIGHT?!?!?!?!??!?!?

China is strong into crypto now, most of china has 32bit, if you're a dumbass that can't put 1 + 1 together then that doesn't mean I can't call you out on it. Only the elite is smart enough to form opinions and I do well to spread mine. If you don't like it open your own forum and moderate it.

Run that pirated XP all you want. By doing so your choosing not to run cryptonite. Or at least not to compile it, or pay someone to compile it. If you think stupid people don't have opinions, you obviously have not read this forum. So I'm going to go to the head now and work on something productive.

I am on Windows 7, how does 64bit prevent from people pirating? Interesting theory...

What I have said is that stupid people (aka the majority) can't FORM opinions, they can still propagate others opinions.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Compiled the latest cudaminer code on EC2 gpu instance (compiles fine) and now get the following error:

Code:

./minerd -o stratum+tcp://xcnpool.1gh.com:7333 -u XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX -p x -t 1
[2014-08-06 23:04:27] 1 miner threads started, using 'm7' algorithm.
[2014-08-06 23:04:27] Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp://xcnpool.1gh.com:7333
GPUassert: invalid device symbol cuda_whirlpool512.cu 1398

Also, if '-a m7' is used, then it exits without any error message.

Any ideas?

Lots of people saying this. Never seen the error here. Seems to be working for wolf. All i can suggest at this point is make sure your Makefile.am has compute_30 set. Rerun automake, then make. Also try make clean and make in case you have pulled recently. Autotools dependency checking not work for cuda.

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Quote from: tmbp on August 06, 2014, 06:38:02 PM

What if I told you I have a Core i7 with a 32bit system and not everyone that buys a processor that supports 64bit will install 64bit? CRAZY RIGHT?!?!?!?!??!?!?

China is strong into crypto now, most of china has 32bit, if you're a dumbass that can't put 1 + 1 together then that doesn't mean I can't call you out on it. Only the elite is smart enough to form opinions and I do well to spread mine. If you don't like it open your own forum and moderate it.

Run that pirated XP all you want. By doing so your choosing not to run cryptonite. Or at least not to compile it, or pay someone to compile it. If you think stupid people don't have opinions, you obviously have not read this forum. So I'm going to go to the head now and work on something productive.

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lol this coin's still here?

as i already said, re-launch with a real algo and you have a chance of being relevant in a week's time.

at least it's somewhat comforting that the guy who controls 20% of all mining will be eating all those electric costs xD

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Quote from: catia on August 06, 2014, 06:26:15 PM

Quote from: tmbp on August 06, 2014, 04:09:17 PM

Couple of points:
A) Only dumbasses use the newest Windows as they are increasingly falling into the hands of tyrants, the newest Windows for example will only notify you when it's going to shut down for updates with no way to delay the updates (pretty much notifies you halfway through your work I'm shutting down for updates in half an hours and fuck you). Not to mention the shit GUI, the shit performance, the shit security and the shit everything else.
B) 32Bit machines are still the most popular currently.
C) Compiling the GUI on Windows requires installing numerous dependencies and hard configurations, while I am smart enough to do this most other people aren't.

Overall this is the classical "blame it on the one that exposed our stupid behavior" by the shill, if the devs are lacking the common sense to provide 32bit binaries what could you expect from the source except buggy, shitty code written by some chinese hack?

I really like point C. Where you admit it's a lot of work to create these binaries. But wait, your not willing to do it? I wouldn't even have a use for those binaries so why waste my time. So you can use your 5 minute attention span to rail about some problem with it?

Shill, thats good. I write software, must be shill, free code. shill all the way.

Quote from: tmbp on August 06, 2014, 04:26:43 PM

I think that most would understand that by a "chinese hack" I am not implying that his code is inferior due to his nationality as a chinese (rather a hack) but that the market is saturated with chinese willing to write buggy code for a fraction of the price of a real programmer. The phones in both of our pockets have been created by the chinese but the difference is that those are high quality employees working for high quality american companies, not 18 year olds looking to scam on freelancing websites.

It's true that they don't owe me the binaries, and I don't owe not calling them dumbasses for not providing them.

As far as I know most home computers are 32-bit as well, but of course you'll make the claim that the kind of tech savvy people that would use cryptocurrencies would all have 64-bit machines right?

This is border line slander. If you have negative things to say about the quality of my work you best back it up. Free software is not a license for you to complain. The very fact it is provided for free, without warranty of implied merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose gives you no ground to stand on. Free software is also not a license to slander. You cannot come around here saying that peoples work is not worth their wage because your childish wants were not satisfied.

As far as I know, 64bit computers are so cheap people will pay you to take them. I have a whole army of core2duo I got or $20 each. Maybe it's time to upgrade.

If you have some constructive criticism then by all means. This stuff is just horrible though. Grow up.

What if I told you I have a Core i7 with a 32bit system and not everyone that buys a processor that supports 64bit will install 64bit? CRAZY RIGHT?!?!?!?!??!?!?

China is strong into crypto now, most of china has 32bit, if you're a dumbass that can't put 1 + 1 together then that doesn't mean I can't call you out on it. Only the elite is smart enough to form opinions and I do well to spread mine. If you don't like it open your own forum and moderate it.

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Quote from: watuba on August 06, 2014, 12:35:14 PM

Quote from: tmbp on August 06, 2014, 12:16:27 PM

LOL no 32bit binaries? Are you f--- kidding me? Grin

Rumor is, there is a web wallet coming out soon!

Rumor only¿?

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Quote from: tmbp on August 06, 2014, 04:09:17 PM

Couple of points:
A) Only dumbasses use the newest Windows as they are increasingly falling into the hands of tyrants, the newest Windows for example will only notify you when it's going to shut down for updates with no way to delay the updates (pretty much notifies you halfway through your work I'm shutting down for updates in half an hours and fuck you). Not to mention the shit GUI, the shit performance, the shit security and the shit everything else.
B) 32Bit machines are still the most popular currently.
C) Compiling the GUI on Windows requires installing numerous dependencies and hard configurations, while I am smart enough to do this most other people aren't.

Overall this is the classical "blame it on the one that exposed our stupid behavior" by the shill, if the devs are lacking the common sense to provide 32bit binaries what could you expect from the source except buggy, shitty code written by some chinese hack?

I really like point C. Where you admit it's a lot of work to create these binaries. But wait, your not willing to do it? I wouldn't even have a use for those binaries so why waste my time. So you can use your 5 minute attention span to rail about some problem with it?

Shill, thats good. I write software, must be shill, free code. shill all the way.

Quote from: tmbp on August 06, 2014, 04:26:43 PM

I think that most would understand that by a "chinese hack" I am not implying that his code is inferior due to his nationality as a chinese (rather a hack) but that the market is saturated with chinese willing to write buggy code for a fraction of the price of a real programmer. The phones in both of our pockets have been created by the chinese but the difference is that those are high quality employees working for high quality american companies, not 18 year olds looking to scam on freelancing websites.

It's true that they don't owe me the binaries, and I don't owe not calling them dumbasses for not providing them.

As far as I know most home computers are 32-bit as well, but of course you'll make the claim that the kind of tech savvy people that would use cryptocurrencies would all have 64-bit machines right?

This is border line slander. If you have negative things to say about the quality of my work you best back it up. Free software is not a license for you to complain. The very fact it is provided for free, without warranty of implied merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose gives you no ground to stand on. Free software is also not a license to slander. You cannot come around here saying that peoples work is not worth their wage because your childish wants were not satisfied.

As far as I know, 64bit computers are so cheap people will pay you to take them. I have a whole army of core2duo I got or $20 each. Maybe it's time to upgrade.

If you have some constructive criticism then by all means. This stuff is just horrible though. Grow up.

I will even support general criticism of the coin. Drawing the line here at unsubstantiated personal attacks.

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