Topic: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine - page 82. (Read 578565 times)

If we switch to Minicoin, google hits for the old coin would quickly be buried far down in the results.  We can also ask the altcoin sub mod to archive the old thread.

I know Cryptonote came out of nowhere.  But now that it's here, and a huge success to boot, we have to deal with it one way or another. 

I prefer a proactive approach to the passive 'just ignore it and hope it goes away' one.

Of course 'Cryptonite' vs 'Crypto note/night/knight doesn't seem like a collision *TO YOU*.  My concern is not your singular experience, but rather new users'.  Please try to put yourself in their shoes.  XCN is still an extremely exotic coin, and yet we're already hearing about how confusing the nomenclature is.  That's poor branding.  Poor branding makes for poor marketing.  There's no reason to stay married to Cryptonite when it's clearly not working out very well, even at this early 'still on our honeymoon' date.   

You have more familiarity with and therefore attachment to XCN than anyone else.  To the rest of us, XCN is a very new thing.  It's not on that many exchanges, and doesn't have much volume on the ones it is on.  What looks like halftime to you, appears as the pre-game hoopla to others.  (I know it's very brave to use a sports metaphor on BTCT... ).

The new Bytecoin isn't confused with the old one, and there is no reason to expect new Minicoin would be either.  Moreover, I heard about OG Bytecoin, but never had the slightest inkling Minicoin exists/existed.

BitMonero changed to Monero, and further changed the original MRO ticker to XMR.  And that's in spite of the fact that Monero enjoyed far more publicity upon launch than XCN.  It's not just possible to change names/tickers/logos, it's fairly common.

I propose we let money talk.  IE, we auction off for the benefit of the dev fund the right to rename XCN. 

We could make the selection multiple choice to prevent some rich wag or organized hater group from renaming it HitlerCoin, CryptoPenis, or anything else inappropriate.   

I'll start by bidding 25k XCN for a change to MiniCoin or MiniChain.

Sorry to keep bugging you about this, but it's tough love.  I like this coin enough to be willing to risk annoying even its main benefactor in order to push through (or at least have a through discussion of) a change others and myself feel is very important.  I don't think the naming collision is a show-stopper, but is already causing headaches and repetitious clarification posts to clutter up precious main thread real estate.

I wouldn't be against that idea, but all the names in the poll would have to be original names which haven't been used by another coin in the past. The only potential issue with that approach is that I can't get any good domain for the new name chosen.

Cryptobit? Microbit? Perhaps think of a few solid names, then make a poll and see what the people prefer, including an option to keep current  name. I dont think the name is really too important. The logo could do with a bit of a makeover tho. It would take a designer half hour to patch something up. Id donate to that

As for the name we just need to mix it up a bit hey everyones done the same old minicoin microcoin tinycoin, keep it uniqe, and if you cant find something amazing then keep the current

I don't think minicoin is too bad, but cryptus isn't great either. And this is why it's so hard to find a name that everyone likes. If we did change the name we'd just have a new group of people who don't like it and want it changed.

Please dont use minicoin thats terrible. What about cryptus, cryptuscoin. Or crypte. cryptobit. Or I think this should be done properly, full ticker change and complete name change if it has to be done. I think the current name is perfect but I guess a few people have difficulties seeing the letter "i" and instead see an "o". Happens to me too, everytime I read bitcoin, I read botcoin -_- naaaht really.

Well all this Cryptonote stuff didn't even exist when we came up with the name, we only found out about it later on after we had decided on the name. And I don't think it's really much of a collision at all. So what if it is similar, I don't think it's really a huge deal. The closest sounding name is cryptonight, but that isn't even a coin, it's just a PoW algorithm, so I didn't really care if it's similar.

I just did a search for minicoin and the old minicoin thread and the reddit are at the top of the results. It is simply a terrible idea to change the name to something which was already used. If we are going to go to all the trouble to change the name in order to avoid confusion, we must at least choose something which will indeed avoid confusion and not cause more confusion.

I didn't say we need a .com domain, we need a .com or .org or .info domain, we need at least one of those.

Well it isn't that simple, and even if I was I wouldn't change it. It's a very bad idea to screw around with the currency code once it has been traded under that code.

"Cryptonite" is already being confused with not just another coin, but with an entire family of very successful other coins AND that family's proof-of-work.

I'm not discounting the time/effort you put into the name, but am asking you to reevaluate the outcome of that process in light of the current situation.

Minicoin was a minor blip, it came and went without notice, signifying nothing.  It's a great name for this project, and just sitting there waiting to be used.

"Minicoin' only appears in google 11,900 times.  "Cryptonight" appears 33,800 times.  "CryptoNote" appears 55,300 times.  "CryptoKnight" appears 8,900 times.

I regret to report that your attempt to avoid a naming collision failed.  That's just a fact, sorry.  Pronunciation matters just as much as spelling, perhaps more.

MiniCoin was barely used in the past, and not being used currently.  Based on your own criteria for originality and distinctiveness, MiniCoin is a better choice (IE does less harm) than Cryptonite, as it results in an order of magnitude less ambiguity.

We can easily ask our (handful of) exchanges to change the ticker to XMC, and make a new /r/XMC subreddit until we can acquire the full .com, etc. domains.  It should be timed to coincide with the rest of the re-branding.  It's not that hard; it's been done before.

Don't let the search for a perfect (totally virgin, free .com) name be the enemy of a name like MiniCoin that's very much good enough.

I think you are setting the bar higher than is needed.  I've already registered the minico.in, minicoin.io, and minicoin.info domains we'd need for a switch.

If you have to veto MiniCoin reuse, let's go with MiniChain.  I am happy to donate use of my minicha.in and minichain.io domains as well.

I'm not saying a name change is hassle-free.  I am saying it is worth the hassles, and we are still very much in the earliest days of the coin.

Please do not doom us to an eternity of


I like MiniCoin because 1) it's an apt shorthand descriptor of the underlying mini-blockchain feature, and 2) it's a cute pun on ManyCoin, which is appropriate because there will be so many Minicoins.   

Again, it reflects positively on a coin when the devs graciously accept community/userbase pushback.  We have an opportunity to demonstrate how well we work together.  Branding drama is annoying; we all want get back to work on building out the MBC platform.  The sooner we resolve the unfortunate naming collision the better.

MiniCoin *MIGHT* be, in the worst case, confused with an obscure, short-lived, abandoned coin that went nowhere.

Cryptonite *IS* being confused with Cryptonote (a shady effort of uncertain provenance), a Proof-of-work, Superman's weakness, a bike lock, and an Android encryption product.  Not to mention CryptoKnight, an obscure, short-lived, abandoned coin that went nowhere.   

We can get another logo (or simply change the 'C' in the current one to an 'M'); we cannot get a second chance to make a good first impression on new users.

Also, please release a MAC client.

I will change the name when you guys come up with a really good name which has not been used already for another coin, and the .com, .info or .org domain is still available, and you have a really good logo made which is better than our existing one (I'm not spending money on another logo when I really like the one we have). The green and black color scheme cannot change though, because then I would have to redesign the entire website and the web wallet. The currency code cannot change either because we are already listed on several exchanges and I don't want to hassle them.

I'm thinking a name change would be a good idea. There is a lot of chatter going on about how the Cryptonote guys may be associated with a coin-mill churning out alts to pump-and-dump (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blowing-the-lid-off-the-cryptonotebytecoin-scam-with-the-exception-of-monero-740112). This could be significantly hurting Cryptonite's reputation. If it wasn't for this issue I wouldn't think a name change would be that important.

I like Mini-Blocks (XMB) for a name.

IRL this is how it goes...

^ +1
_{(community aims their bats at bitfreak's head  )}
~ Myagui

All those names sound ridiculous in IMHO. I am mining this coin because I took the time to read about it and see the innovation in it however it is true that the name doesn't convey a serious message. Cryptonite will inevitably be linked to superman and whatnot. Perhaps it's not easy to change a name now, but imagine how it will be later on.

What I don't understand is why most alt coins feel they have to be called some weird names, some more stupid than others. Sometimes I feel there are created by 13 year old pre-teens who are still living in some sort of parallel world. Cryptonite is not a ridiculous name, however it sounds a bit childish and lacks seriousness (I am talking about the name, not the coin).

Why not find a name that has a wider appeal and perhaps is more elegant? If you want to dissociate yourself from other coins, then be creative. Even the "Crypto" is not a necessity.

Just my thought.

Trying to play around abit with Google translate for latin and esperanto, but can't find any decent suggestions, just concluding Monero and Navajo has the best namns ever.

Mini-Blockchain Coin - XMB ?

(since MBC was apparently taken for a "BroCoin")

bitfreakCoin, symbol: FREAK  

Summer coin did a name change re branding to Navajo coin and price went up from 200+ to 2000 couple of days later because people agree with the name. Community buy those coins , not the developer. If u give what the community wants , they buy the coin. Community is the one buying coin. If u ignore what the community wants , u miss the opportunity to up the price. New name bring new attention. Right now, this coin is in need of more attention.

NanoCoin.

Lol


Of course wee will prevail!

Community vs Developer on name change. Who will prevail ?