Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 248. (Read 1276789 times)

So, I feel it is time I end my XCP investment.

James
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me too  2450 XCP on exchange
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You are welcome

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So, I feel it is time I end my XCP investment.

James
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me too  2450 XCP on exchange

Hi Jl777, welcome to dump your all xcp, please! We are waiting

True. Our social media coordinator had a major family emergency last week and disappeared just as we were launching. Response time has not been particularly good but she is back and we are pushing forward with more comprehensive material.

This is going to be interesting, I wonder how you plan to pull that off.

you guys are better off answering investor questions on this forum , you guys are doing a pretty terrible job at communicating

What is Swarm and why does it matter that it accepts XCP?

Swarm will start officially accepting XCP very soon. Stay tuned.

We also welcome XCP supporters to our Skype group, which we plan to use to jumpstart a serious marketing move around Counterparty.

Add "beningram" or "jdietz04" on Skype. Next week is going to be full force ahead. 

Buy, it's "blood in the streets"

Someone dump a lot XCP

I wanted the Counterparty equivalent for NXT, NEM might be it. Lets see.

By the way, don't see Nxt as a "weaker" protocol but as a good example for our future trajectory.

1/ Nxt was arguably despised months ago, because of unfair IPO - I was very angry and upset when they closed IPO, I had prepared anything to buy the days after. I eventually bought the first day on Dgex.

Now it is third. They kept on evoluting.

What differenciate shitcoins from successful altcoins ?
They evolve. And CP evolves every week.

Now XCP is despised, even by double XCP-NxT holders threatening to sell big amounts for absurd reasons..."Buy when there is blood on the street";
Tomorrow XCP will easily be on the spotlight. Everything is possible. And what if Devs succeed in using 3 coins (Litecoins, Darkcoins....) instead of only BTC, depending on purposes (Betting, CFD...) ? Nxt will become useless, until they evolve themseleves again.


2/ I am amongst top burners but XCP is my "worst" investment, only 4X, and my average is 60X. It is on the contrary my "best" investment because the one with best potential to realize now.
Why it doesn't make at least 60 X at the moment, despite fundamentals (First mover, Unique tech, good name, skilled devs, community...) ?

Because nobody is able to explain and to see why it has value and "If I buy now, how much I will earn ?"
It is the most easy to do now ! No need to marketing if you can't even convince relationships to invest ! it is easier to convince to invest in Nxt, Darkcoin or Monero than XCP !
Don't lose time with Tech comparison if it can't explain in 3 words why it will soar value.

The only "real number" I saw, in spite of insisting, was 0,5 XCP by assets...It means perhaps scarcity in 200 years....
Even main Devs don't want to answer. They feel it is innapropriate BUT They are forgetting that they are leaders and gurus. As I wrote yesterday, we are loosing 90 % of people landing here , and so projects, traders and investors. I don't believe in sudden and magic interest for people without basic actions. The vast majority doesn't know how to finds assets in CP !!! IT IS A SHEER SHAME !


3/ Why having and buying XCP, what to expect ?:

Best punchline : ?

Non economical / Fundamentals :
+ top devs (competent, publicly known AND totally honnests, remember how they handled losts, paid from their own pockets)
+ unique technology,
+ First Proof of Burn, means the most fair and optimized distribution, with no instamine or premine possible
+ gigantic market (Assets, CFD...)
+ unique community,
+ betting function, betting site perfectly working : xbet.io,
+ No direct competitors
+ Private
+ blockscan
+ Code inspected by XXX

Financial
+ Only 2M coins. It will never rise (On the contrary with burnings for assets)
+ XCP is already a success and already made 4X
+ First big IPO with Swarm - X,000 BTC
+ X assets, and growing. List of (real) assets here :
+ Trading with XCP on the distributed exchange is (and always will be) cheaper and 700 % faster than with BTC
+ You can use only XCP for making bets, CFDs and asset callbacks. Forthcoming complex features and financial instruments will also likely be restricted to denomination in XCP.
+ All future proof-of-stake voting, e.g. for protocol changes, voting functionality, DACs, etc. is determined by XCP holdings.

Will XCP > 100$ ?
- Yes because it is tied to BTC, the leader, which is going mainstream now. CP is the next logic natural step, not Litecoin, nor Peercoin, nor any substitute.
- Last opportunity to become a big balance and having futur rights, interests, dividends...

Why only 2$ now ?
- Never had marketing actions. Only starting marketing actions. link to the last news and events :
- Prefer to focus on Technology until now. By the way, It remembers me early hours of Google or Facebook when they were critisized having no financial strategy, no idea on how to make money.
- The first pump that every coin have sooner or later has never been done yet. Never know when it starts.
- Wallet online and not on windows for the moment. Perfectly working but a huge psychological hurdle for almost every investors ("Not really owning my money / it can disappear"). Nxt made 3X as soon as Windows was effective.

I hope it is usefull. Please help me, I am not the best one to do this, be more precise than me ! :-)

Coz the XCP main devs started talking FUD about NXT two days ago.

Now NXT people counterattack.

Why are we talking about Nxt here ?

NXT is yesterdays news,

NEM is being relaesed in a week, fair distribution and uses proof of importance

I really don't understand this flood of NXt posts here...

I mean, I was fairly interested in NXT, but they ended their funding process sooner than officially announced. As a result, 71 addresses owned 100% of the coins. On top of that, proof-of-stake rewards those who are holding the most coins.

This is more unfair than all the childish "I'm going to sell all XCP I got!" threats here. I mean, if you're ready to dump your stock so quickly simply because of a personal disagreement and/or misunderstanding based on vague forum posts, then I would be scared for NXT holders worldwide. What if you suddenly decide to dump those? Besides, if I wanted a currency where 10% own 50% and the rich get richer, I'd stick to the U.S. Dollar...

2 questions.

1.  Why in the world would I ever pay for some con artists scam when I have no relationship to either him or those ripped off?
2. Why the hell are NXT users spamming this thread?  Begone please.

you can pay for him then?

Just a million?  Drop in the bucket.

I step a way for a second and James in his usual machine like manner has addressed most of these issues...


so its ok too have core devs state untrue facts and not have anyone address these things? do you realize that there are a lot of nxters who are also counterparty burners ? so technically we support this project






I can admit that I made some assumptions that i will clear up:

1) Maybe I wasn't clear, I wasn't referring to you as a dev, but rather someone who understands the environment enough to be objective in analysis which is important to your audience. you are also seen as an authority in this space, you may not admit it but your thorough journalism gives you the authority, and anything that comes out of the show, especially criticism about certain technologies will be taken as truths...just asked the 10s of parrots I keep having to deal with at these meetups...and one thing is common all roads lead to LTB in their some of their arguments sources

2) I could have sworn you knew at least that nxt is very decentralized...a statement such as "nxt is not a solution to the decentralized consensus system" is very inaccurate, thats like comparing NXT to Paypal...Thats a very powerful thing to say that shapes the mind of the public...do you know how many people repeat that same line confidently to me in person? even when I give them the right information...and their sources is usually from that one podcast...
from your sentiment here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5855525 , you were even considering NXT as an option to counterparty at one point in time, why would you consider issue tokens on a platform that was not decentralized?..My point is, I don't think that statement from peter todd should have been uttered uncontested...it has had damaging and far reaching effects

3) It was not my intent to start anything on this thread...the level of confident ignorance being regurgitated got too much to bear, normally I stay out of these things. I simply came here to check on the progress of counterparty because I am actually invested in it, but instead I find vitriolic attack masked as genuine criticism

4) and like james already retorted Nxt never has or ever will use checkpointing...to compare Nxt algo to peercoin without any actual research and broadcast that on air is unacceptable.

Better yet you state that dev are too busy with their own projects, well thats fine and dandy how about the supposed devs staying out from commenting on unfamiliar technology as opposed to reinforcing untrue notions, or actually asking them if they have looked deeply into Nxt??? Devs at least take the time time to do some research before even delving into the topic...I say this because you rush to defend these action as inconsequential but you are intelligent enough to understand the effects of the public authority opinions on general masses

Now its no use crying over spilt milk..and we possibly cannot inform every user of the facts everywhere on the misinformation of nxt...but some Nxters can make a difference here especially with counterparty. I know I certainly can, plus others that have contacted me. Nobody wants to see a > 60000 XCP sell wall below price...I care for XCP more than mastercoin as strange as it sounds...and I want it to realize its full potential..for me the more the merrier...but I did not expect that level of irresponsibility from the devs. I thought they were more objective and thorough than that...We just want informed criticisms if there are to be any... the issue of distribution might be one, but we end up with massive inequalities either way on each and every coin...xcp had a way better distribution mechanism, but we still have inequalities that can wreck havoc on the price in the short term, its the same for bitcoin litecoin, darkcoin etc...the list goes on...

Edit: for those who may not have the time to research and need quick truthful information you can listen to this podcast at the 45 min mark: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/beyond-bitcoin-5-delegates-and-forgers