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Topic: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! - page 41. (Read 748616 times)

hero member
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Can you guys keep the counter arguing directed at longandshort and not shadowcash?

Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.

Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.

I was just over visiting the Shadow thread & one of their own basically told longandshort to cut the crap & was bring down both communities.
Not an exact quote, but the just of it. Seconds later it was deleted. I wish I had gotten a screenshot.
Seems awfully fishy.

How is that fishy? The shadow community isn't attacking you and doesnt feel any desire to do so.

And for the record, it's Shadowcash.

How is it NOT fishy?

I just explained how it's not fishy. Reread that quote please.

Of course... that explains everything! *facepalm*
Okay, I'm out. Arguing here is a waste of time. Goodluck with your pointless arguing though!
member
Activity: 84
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yea nice price, accumulating some coins, they are cheap  Cool weakhands are out, thats good  Cool
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.

Please update on stealthsend hondo.


he did he gave an explanation of chandran sigs and agreed it was flawed due to a security problem and how he cant link them because they are unlinkable/traecable

legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1050

Before addressing the criticisms raised in this thread, I would like to express my sincere appreciation for these criticisms. Although some believe the manner in which they have been introduced may not be optimal to promote civil discourse, they are valuable criticisms nevertheless, and help to strengthen crypto-currencies in general. It is far better to address weaknesses in crypto systems during implementation than it is to address attacks after deployment.

Chandran signatures [1] make use of a common reference string. The common reference string generator (CRSGen) is a necessity for a model that does not require a random oracle, as described in [1]. CRSGen produces a string that is used as an input to a key generation function. The key generation function produces the user's public-private key pair. This key pair has specific properties in that it is a member of a particular mathematical group. In principle, key generation can be replaced by a cryptographic one-way function if the random oracle assumption is introduced.

Admittedly a more difficult issue to address is one of "unlinkability/untraceability", which boils down to the potential for a double spend. In short, Chandran signatures require the generation of a secret random parameter, g, that serves as an input to a "commitment" to a specific key in the key ring. This commitment basically identifies the public key from which the money is spent. The problem is that any number of g can be produced, creating the potential for any number of commitments to the specific public key.

In reality, this same issue exists with CryptoNote ring signatures except that the CryptoNote system incorporates a key image, I, into signing and verification, such that I can only ever be used once. A similar approach can be taken with Chandran signatures. As presented in [1], a key image I can be incorporated into Step 3 of signing and appended to the final signature. In addition to other parameters, Step 3 commits to the public keys of a subset of the ring. Just as with CryptoNote ring signatures, such a modification would commit to the key image and prevent its use for double-spends.

[1] Chandran N., et al. Ring Signatures of Sub-linear Size Without Random Oracles. ICALP 2007, LNCS 4596, pp. 423–434, 2007.


-- Hondo

you need to say something when you quote things..you still don't get it do you?
newbie
Activity: 42
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Can you guys keep the counter arguing directed at longandshort and not shadowcash?

Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.

Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.

I was just over visiting the Shadow thread & one of their own basically told longandshort to cut the crap & was bring down both communities.
Not an exact quote, but the just of it. Seconds later it was deleted. I wish I had gotten a screenshot.
Seems awfully fishy.

How is that fishy? The shadow community isn't attacking you and doesnt feel any desire to do so.

And for the record, it's Shadowcash.

How is it NOT fishy?

I just explained how it's not fishy. Reread that quote please.

Of course... that explains everything! *facepalm*
sr. member
Activity: 442
Merit: 250
EVERYBODY !!!! READ CLOSER!
STEALTH COIN AND THE COMMUNITY ARE UNDER ATTACK BY THE COMPETITION !!!
IGNORE LONGANDSHORT< POOKIE >>>TEY WORK FOR THE COMPETITION!
AT ANY COST DO NOT>>>DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!!>>>>THEY TRY TO BRING THE MARKET DOWN!
HOLD ON! DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME!
STEALTH COIN IS FINE AND KICKING ASS!!!
HONDO JUST SPOKE TO US TODAY>>>>HE IS WORKING AS USUAL ON THE PROJECT.
YOU CAN TALK DIRECTLY WITH HIM --ASK FOR AN INVITATION AT : Stealth Coin [email protected]
DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!! IS JUST A FALSE ALARM!!! THE PROJECT IS ONGOING!!!!!
full member
Activity: 159
Merit: 100



I had some low ball buy orders on SDC, just pulled them.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.

Please update on stealthsend hondo.


he did he gave an explanation of chandran sigs and agreed it was flawed due to a security problem and how he cant link them because they are unlinkable/traecable


legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1000
Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.

Please update on stealthsend hondo.


What say Hondo on this?
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1050
Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.

Please update on stealthsend hondo.


he did he gave an explanation of chandran sigs and agreed it was flawed due to a security problem and how he cant link them because they are unlinkable/traecable
hero member
Activity: 606
Merit: 500
Can you guys keep the counter arguing directed at longandshort and not shadowcash?

Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.

Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.

I was just over visiting the Shadow thread & one of their own basically told longandshort to cut the crap & was bring down both communities.
Not an exact quote, but the just of it. Seconds later it was deleted. I wish I had gotten a screenshot.
Seems awfully fishy.

How is that fishy? The shadow community isn't attacking you and doesnt feel any desire to do so.

And for the record, it's Shadowcash.

How is it NOT fishy?

I just explained how it's not fishy. Reread that quote please.
legendary
Activity: 2184
Merit: 1028
#mitandopelomundo

Before addressing the criticisms raised in this thread, I would like to express my sincere appreciation for these criticisms. Although some believe the manner in which they have been introduced may not be optimal to promote civil discourse, they are valuable criticisms nevertheless, and help to strengthen crypto-currencies in general. It is far better to address weaknesses in crypto systems during implementation than it is to address attacks after deployment.

Chandran signatures [1] make use of a common reference string. The common reference string generator (CRSGen) is a necessity for a model that does not require a random oracle, as described in [1]. CRSGen produces a string that is used as an input to a key generation function. The key generation function produces the user's public-private key pair. This key pair has specific properties in that it is a member of a particular mathematical group. In principle, key generation can be replaced by a cryptographic one-way function if the random oracle assumption is introduced.

Admittedly a more difficult issue to address is one of "unlinkability/untraceability", which boils down to the potential for a double spend. In short, Chandran signatures require the generation of a secret random parameter, g, that serves as an input to a "commitment" to a specific key in the key ring. This commitment basically identifies the public key from which the money is spent. The problem is that any number of g can be produced, creating the potential for any number of commitments to the specific public key.

In reality, this same issue exists with CryptoNote ring signatures except that the CryptoNote system incorporates a key image, I, into signing and verification, such that I can only ever be used once. A similar approach can be taken with Chandran signatures. As presented in [1], a key image I can be incorporated into Step 3 of signing and appended to the final signature. In addition to other parameters, Step 3 commits to the public keys of a subset of the ring. Just as with CryptoNote ring signatures, such a modification would commit to the key image and prevent its use for double-spends.

[1] Chandran N., et al. Ring Signatures of Sub-linear Size Without Random Oracles. ICALP 2007, LNCS 4596, pp. 423–434, 2007.


-- Hondo
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
How can you all deny the facts..its not going to happen stealthsend is your only hope and its not going to happen when its meant to and how its meant to if at all
how can you justify ignoring it

Dearest longandshort:

I am simply not going trust my financial decisions to someone who can't speak in sentences, or properly use a full stop, or who refuses to abide by any standard of ordinary decency when debating with people.

Your point about Chandran signatures has been addressed by the developer. While we wait for a confirmation, or a repeat refutation of your criticism from other reputable sources, I'm going to sit quietly, and stand clear of your fairly unpleasant verbal dysentery. Both my wallet and self-respect deserve no less.

If I lose money, I shall remember your less than magnanimous contribution to this forum, and be happy I lost the cash on my own terms. I won't make decisions based on someone who shits all over their tongue and then decides to speak to people.

Now let that be an end to it.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1050
This community is irresponsibly not facing the facts why is that why now and why not?

This is a fact

 

That has nothing to do with xst alone and what im talking to you about why isnt satoshis pod there and sunnykings and charlies? i support all of their coins you have issues i swear they are not good!
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.

Please update on stealthsend hondo.
sr. member
Activity: 498
Merit: 252
Life failures Stealthcoin, Ark coin and Safemoon
EVERYBODY !!!! READ CLOSER!
STEALTH COIN AND THE COMMUNITY ARE UNDER ATTACK BY THE COMPETITION !!!
IGNORE LONGANDSHORT< POOKIE >>>TEY WORK FOR THE COMPETITION!
AT ANY COST DO NOT>>>DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!!>>>>THEY TRY TO BRING THE MARKET DOWN!
HOLD ON! DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME!
STEALTH COIN IS FINE AND KICKING ASS!!!
HONDO JUST SPOKE TO US TODAY>>>>HE IS WORKING AS USUAL ON THE PROJECT.
YOU CAN TALK DIRECTLY WITH HIM --ASK FOR AN INVITATION AT : Stealth Coin [email protected]
DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!! IS JUST A FALSE ALARM!!! THE PROJECT IS ONGOING!!!!!


wow i never have seen this kind of attack before in crypto land. this should be on coindesk!
EVERYBODY !!!! READ CLOSER!
STEALTH COIN AND THE COMMUNITY ARE UNDER ATTACK BY THE COMPETITION !!!
IGNORE LONGANDSHORT< POOKIE >>>TEY WORK FOR THE COMPETITION!
AT ANY COST DO NOT>>>DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!!>>>>THEY TRY TO BRING THE MARKET DOWN!
HOLD ON! DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME!
STEALTH COIN IS FINE AND KICKING ASS!!!
HONDO JUST SPOKE TO US TODAY>>>>HE IS WORKING AS USUAL ON THE PROJECT.
YOU CAN TALK DIRECTLY WITH HIM --ASK FOR AN INVITATION AT : Stealth Coin [email protected]
DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!! IS JUST A FALSE ALARM!!! THE PROJECT IS ONGOING!!!!!


wow the persistent of 1 or 2 person or even group attacking something that they don't even own or not related. this should be illegal!
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This user is currently ignored

Go learn some basics first, and then come back here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptography

When Hondo will tell you to open your mouth, you'll open it. Otherwise, just shut up.

You are not stating fact, just spreading false rumors.

You're not even a dev. Just an HTML copy / paste professional.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Can you guys keep the counter arguing directed at longandshort and not shadowcash?

Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.

Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.

I was just over visiting the Shadow thread & one of their own basically told longandshort to cut the crap & was bring down both communities.
Not an exact quote, but the just of it. Seconds later it was deleted. I wish I had gotten a screenshot.
Seems awfully fishy.

How is that fishy? The shadow community isn't attacking you and doesnt feel any desire to do so.

And for the record, it's Shadowcash.

How is it NOT fishy?
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1050
How can you all deny the facts..its not going to happen stealthsend is your only hope and its not going to happen when its meant to and how its meant to if at all
how can you justify ignoring it
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