Look at the frenzy you are all in and naaah nothing is up here its all sunny days ahead with your vaporware..shame on you all for the absurd denial..
The truth always comes out in the end more to come soon!
Topic: [ANN][XST] Stealth-Coin.com | Tor | StealthText, World's first anonymous SMS Tx! - page 41. (Read 748429 times)
October 10, 2014, 11:01:27 AM
October 10, 2014, 11:01:05 AM
Can you guys keep the counter arguing directed at longandshort and not shadowcash?
Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.
Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.
Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.
Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.
I was just over visiting the Shadow thread & one of their own basically told longandshort to cut the crap & was bring down both communities.
Not an exact quote, but the just of it. Seconds later it was deleted. I wish I had gotten a screenshot.
Seems awfully fishy.
How is that fishy? The shadow community isn't attacking you and doesnt feel any desire to do so.
And for the record, it's Shadowcash.
How is it NOT fishy?
I just explained how it's not fishy. Reread that quote please.
Of course... that explains everything! *facepalm*
Tell that to your 3 SDC trolls. Any harm that comes to SDC is caused by the action of Longandshort, PookieDump, and TrollsRoyce
October 10, 2014, 10:58:25 AM
Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
he did he gave an explanation of chandran sigs and agreed it was flawed due to a security problem and how he cant link them because they are unlinkable/traecable
The fact you miss the frighteningly obvious here is absurd! You condone vaporware and copyright removal and all you have is sms relay and the rest is fluff that is
stealthsend mythbusted its all there https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-wizards/
October 10, 2014, 10:57:22 AM
Can you guys keep the counter arguing directed at longandshort and not shadowcash?
Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.
Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.
Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.
Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.
I was just over visiting the Shadow thread & one of their own basically told longandshort to cut the crap & was bring down both communities.
Not an exact quote, but the just of it. Seconds later it was deleted. I wish I had gotten a screenshot.
Seems awfully fishy.
How is that fishy? The shadow community isn't attacking you and doesnt feel any desire to do so.
And for the record, it's Shadowcash.
How is it NOT fishy?
I just explained how it's not fishy. Reread that quote please.
Of course... that explains everything! *facepalm*
October 10, 2014, 10:55:53 AM
yea nice price, accumulating some coins, they are cheap 
weakhands are out, thats good
weakhands are out, thats good October 10, 2014, 10:55:22 AM
Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
he did he gave an explanation of chandran sigs and agreed it was flawed due to a security problem and how he cant link them because they are unlinkable/traecable
October 10, 2014, 10:54:16 AM
Ooohh...so sorry.
+ CryptoCertify - CryptoCertify 3-Star Approved https://www.cryptocertify.com/portfolio-posts/stealthcoin-xst
Before addressing the criticisms raised in this thread, I would like to express my sincere appreciation for these criticisms. Although some believe the manner in which they have been introduced may not be optimal to promote civil discourse, they are valuable criticisms nevertheless, and help to strengthen crypto-currencies in general. It is far better to address weaknesses in crypto systems during implementation than it is to address attacks after deployment.
Chandran signatures [1] make use of a common reference string. The common reference string generator (CRSGen) is a necessity for a model that does not require a random oracle, as described in [1]. CRSGen produces a string that is used as an input to a key generation function. The key generation function produces the user's public-private key pair. This key pair has specific properties in that it is a member of a particular mathematical group. In principle, key generation can be replaced by a cryptographic one-way function if the random oracle assumption is introduced.
Admittedly a more difficult issue to address is one of "unlinkability/untraceability", which boils down to the potential for a double spend. In short, Chandran signatures require the generation of a secret random parameter, g, that serves as an input to a "commitment" to a specific key in the key ring. This commitment basically identifies the public key from which the money is spent. The problem is that any number of g can be produced, creating the potential for any number of commitments to the specific public key.
In reality, this same issue exists with CryptoNote ring signatures except that the CryptoNote system incorporates a key image, I, into signing and verification, such that I can only ever be used once. A similar approach can be taken with Chandran signatures. As presented in [1], a key image I can be incorporated into Step 3 of signing and appended to the final signature. In addition to other parameters, Step 3 commits to the public keys of a subset of the ring. Just as with CryptoNote ring signatures, such a modification would commit to the key image and prevent its use for double-spends.
[1] Chandran N., et al. Ring Signatures of Sub-linear Size Without Random Oracles. ICALP 2007, LNCS 4596, pp. 423–434, 2007.
-- Hondo
Chandran signatures [1] make use of a common reference string. The common reference string generator (CRSGen) is a necessity for a model that does not require a random oracle, as described in [1]. CRSGen produces a string that is used as an input to a key generation function. The key generation function produces the user's public-private key pair. This key pair has specific properties in that it is a member of a particular mathematical group. In principle, key generation can be replaced by a cryptographic one-way function if the random oracle assumption is introduced.
Admittedly a more difficult issue to address is one of "unlinkability/untraceability", which boils down to the potential for a double spend. In short, Chandran signatures require the generation of a secret random parameter, g, that serves as an input to a "commitment" to a specific key in the key ring. This commitment basically identifies the public key from which the money is spent. The problem is that any number of g can be produced, creating the potential for any number of commitments to the specific public key.
In reality, this same issue exists with CryptoNote ring signatures except that the CryptoNote system incorporates a key image, I, into signing and verification, such that I can only ever be used once. A similar approach can be taken with Chandran signatures. As presented in [1], a key image I can be incorporated into Step 3 of signing and appended to the final signature. In addition to other parameters, Step 3 commits to the public keys of a subset of the ring. Just as with CryptoNote ring signatures, such a modification would commit to the key image and prevent its use for double-spends.
[1] Chandran N., et al. Ring Signatures of Sub-linear Size Without Random Oracles. ICALP 2007, LNCS 4596, pp. 423–434, 2007.
-- Hondo
you need to say something when you quote things..you still don't get it do you?
October 10, 2014, 10:53:40 AM
Can you guys keep the counter arguing directed at longandshort and not shadowcash?
Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.
Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.
Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.
Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.
I was just over visiting the Shadow thread & one of their own basically told longandshort to cut the crap & was bring down both communities.
Not an exact quote, but the just of it. Seconds later it was deleted. I wish I had gotten a screenshot.
Seems awfully fishy.
How is that fishy? The shadow community isn't attacking you and doesnt feel any desire to do so.
And for the record, it's Shadowcash.
How is it NOT fishy?
I just explained how it's not fishy. Reread that quote please.
Of course... that explains everything! *facepalm*
October 10, 2014, 10:53:09 AM
EVERYBODY !!!! READ CLOSER!
STEALTH COIN AND THE COMMUNITY ARE UNDER ATTACK BY THE COMPETITION !!!
IGNORE LONGANDSHORT< POOKIE >>>TEY WORK FOR THE COMPETITION!
AT ANY COST DO NOT>>>DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!!>>>>THEY TRY TO BRING THE MARKET DOWN!
HOLD ON! DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME!
STEALTH COIN IS FINE AND KICKING ASS!!!
HONDO JUST SPOKE TO US TODAY>>>>HE IS WORKING AS USUAL ON THE PROJECT.
YOU CAN TALK DIRECTLY WITH HIM --ASK FOR AN INVITATION AT : Stealth Coin [email protected]
DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!! IS JUST A FALSE ALARM!!! THE PROJECT IS ONGOING!!!!!
STEALTH COIN AND THE COMMUNITY ARE UNDER ATTACK BY THE COMPETITION !!!
IGNORE LONGANDSHORT< POOKIE >>>TEY WORK FOR THE COMPETITION!
AT ANY COST DO NOT>>>DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!!>>>>THEY TRY TO BRING THE MARKET DOWN!
HOLD ON! DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME!
STEALTH COIN IS FINE AND KICKING ASS!!!
HONDO JUST SPOKE TO US TODAY>>>>HE IS WORKING AS USUAL ON THE PROJECT.
YOU CAN TALK DIRECTLY WITH HIM --ASK FOR AN INVITATION AT : Stealth Coin [email protected]
DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!! IS JUST A FALSE ALARM!!! THE PROJECT IS ONGOING!!!!!
October 10, 2014, 10:53:06 AM
October 10, 2014, 10:52:52 AM
Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
he did he gave an explanation of chandran sigs and agreed it was flawed due to a security problem and how he cant link them because they are unlinkable/traecable
October 10, 2014, 10:52:47 AM
Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
What say Hondo on this?
October 10, 2014, 10:51:56 AM
Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
he did he gave an explanation of chandran sigs and agreed it was flawed due to a security problem and how he cant link them because they are unlinkable/traecable
October 10, 2014, 10:51:09 AM
Can you guys keep the counter arguing directed at longandshort and not shadowcash?
Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.
Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.
Shadow isn't attacking you. They don't care what you invest in. They don't want you.
Longandshort is attacking you. If you cant counter his arguments, ignore him. Keep shadowcash out of your posts please.
I was just over visiting the Shadow thread & one of their own basically told longandshort to cut the crap & was bring down both communities.
Not an exact quote, but the just of it. Seconds later it was deleted. I wish I had gotten a screenshot.
Seems awfully fishy.
How is that fishy? The shadow community isn't attacking you and doesnt feel any desire to do so.
And for the record, it's Shadowcash.
How is it NOT fishy?
I just explained how it's not fishy. Reread that quote please.
October 10, 2014, 10:51:02 AM
Ooohh...so sorry.
+ CryptoCertify - CryptoCertify 3-Star Approved https://www.cryptocertify.com/portfolio-posts/stealthcoin-xst
Before addressing the criticisms raised in this thread, I would like to express my sincere appreciation for these criticisms. Although some believe the manner in which they have been introduced may not be optimal to promote civil discourse, they are valuable criticisms nevertheless, and help to strengthen crypto-currencies in general. It is far better to address weaknesses in crypto systems during implementation than it is to address attacks after deployment.
Chandran signatures [1] make use of a common reference string. The common reference string generator (CRSGen) is a necessity for a model that does not require a random oracle, as described in [1]. CRSGen produces a string that is used as an input to a key generation function. The key generation function produces the user's public-private key pair. This key pair has specific properties in that it is a member of a particular mathematical group. In principle, key generation can be replaced by a cryptographic one-way function if the random oracle assumption is introduced.
Admittedly a more difficult issue to address is one of "unlinkability/untraceability", which boils down to the potential for a double spend. In short, Chandran signatures require the generation of a secret random parameter, g, that serves as an input to a "commitment" to a specific key in the key ring. This commitment basically identifies the public key from which the money is spent. The problem is that any number of g can be produced, creating the potential for any number of commitments to the specific public key.
In reality, this same issue exists with CryptoNote ring signatures except that the CryptoNote system incorporates a key image, I, into signing and verification, such that I can only ever be used once. A similar approach can be taken with Chandran signatures. As presented in [1], a key image I can be incorporated into Step 3 of signing and appended to the final signature. In addition to other parameters, Step 3 commits to the public keys of a subset of the ring. Just as with CryptoNote ring signatures, such a modification would commit to the key image and prevent its use for double-spends.
[1] Chandran N., et al. Ring Signatures of Sub-linear Size Without Random Oracles. ICALP 2007, LNCS 4596, pp. 423–434, 2007.
-- Hondo
Chandran signatures [1] make use of a common reference string. The common reference string generator (CRSGen) is a necessity for a model that does not require a random oracle, as described in [1]. CRSGen produces a string that is used as an input to a key generation function. The key generation function produces the user's public-private key pair. This key pair has specific properties in that it is a member of a particular mathematical group. In principle, key generation can be replaced by a cryptographic one-way function if the random oracle assumption is introduced.
Admittedly a more difficult issue to address is one of "unlinkability/untraceability", which boils down to the potential for a double spend. In short, Chandran signatures require the generation of a secret random parameter, g, that serves as an input to a "commitment" to a specific key in the key ring. This commitment basically identifies the public key from which the money is spent. The problem is that any number of g can be produced, creating the potential for any number of commitments to the specific public key.
In reality, this same issue exists with CryptoNote ring signatures except that the CryptoNote system incorporates a key image, I, into signing and verification, such that I can only ever be used once. A similar approach can be taken with Chandran signatures. As presented in [1], a key image I can be incorporated into Step 3 of signing and appended to the final signature. In addition to other parameters, Step 3 commits to the public keys of a subset of the ring. Just as with CryptoNote ring signatures, such a modification would commit to the key image and prevent its use for double-spends.
[1] Chandran N., et al. Ring Signatures of Sub-linear Size Without Random Oracles. ICALP 2007, LNCS 4596, pp. 423–434, 2007.
-- Hondo
October 10, 2014, 10:50:41 AM
How can you all deny the facts..its not going to happen stealthsend is your only hope and its not going to happen when its meant to and how its meant to if at all
how can you justify ignoring it
how can you justify ignoring it
Dearest longandshort:
I am simply not going trust my financial decisions to someone who can't speak in sentences, or properly use a full stop, or who refuses to abide by any standard of ordinary decency when debating with people.
Your point about Chandran signatures has been addressed by the developer. While we wait for a confirmation, or a repeat refutation of your criticism from other reputable sources, I'm going to sit quietly, and stand clear of your fairly unpleasant verbal dysentery. Both my wallet and self-respect deserve no less.
If I lose money, I shall remember your less than magnanimous contribution to this forum, and be happy I lost the cash on my own terms. I won't make decisions based on someone who shits all over their tongue and then decides to speak to people.
Now let that be an end to it.
October 10, 2014, 10:50:07 AM
This community is irresponsibly not facing the facts why is that why now and why not?
This is a fact
That has nothing to do with xst alone and what im talking to you about why isnt satoshis pod there and sunnykings and charlies? i support all of their coins you have issues i swear they are not good!
October 10, 2014, 10:49:41 AM
Hondo say something on this so we all know where we are please
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
People hard money is been stolen if they believe LongAndShort fudster.
Please update on stealthsend hondo.
October 10, 2014, 10:49:05 AM
EVERYBODY !!!! READ CLOSER!
STEALTH COIN AND THE COMMUNITY ARE UNDER ATTACK BY THE COMPETITION !!!
IGNORE LONGANDSHORT< POOKIE >>>TEY WORK FOR THE COMPETITION!
AT ANY COST DO NOT>>>DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!!>>>>THEY TRY TO BRING THE MARKET DOWN!
HOLD ON! DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME!
STEALTH COIN IS FINE AND KICKING ASS!!!
HONDO JUST SPOKE TO US TODAY>>>>HE IS WORKING AS USUAL ON THE PROJECT.
YOU CAN TALK DIRECTLY WITH HIM --ASK FOR AN INVITATION AT : Stealth Coin [email protected]
DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!! IS JUST A FALSE ALARM!!! THE PROJECT IS ONGOING!!!!!
STEALTH COIN AND THE COMMUNITY ARE UNDER ATTACK BY THE COMPETITION !!!
IGNORE LONGANDSHORT< POOKIE >>>TEY WORK FOR THE COMPETITION!
AT ANY COST DO NOT>>>DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!!>>>>THEY TRY TO BRING THE MARKET DOWN!
HOLD ON! DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME!
STEALTH COIN IS FINE AND KICKING ASS!!!
HONDO JUST SPOKE TO US TODAY>>>>HE IS WORKING AS USUAL ON THE PROJECT.
YOU CAN TALK DIRECTLY WITH HIM --ASK FOR AN INVITATION AT : Stealth Coin [email protected]
DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!! IS JUST A FALSE ALARM!!! THE PROJECT IS ONGOING!!!!!
wow i never have seen this kind of attack before in crypto land. this should be on coindesk!
STEALTH COIN AND THE COMMUNITY ARE UNDER ATTACK BY THE COMPETITION !!!
IGNORE LONGANDSHORT< POOKIE >>>TEY WORK FOR THE COMPETITION!
AT ANY COST DO NOT>>>DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!!>>>>THEY TRY TO BRING THE MARKET DOWN!
HOLD ON! DO NOT PLAY THEIR GAME!
STEALTH COIN IS FINE AND KICKING ASS!!!
HONDO JUST SPOKE TO US TODAY>>>>HE IS WORKING AS USUAL ON THE PROJECT.
YOU CAN TALK DIRECTLY WITH HIM --ASK FOR AN INVITATION AT : Stealth Coin [email protected]
DO NOT DROP YOUR COINS!!! IS JUST A FALSE ALARM!!! THE PROJECT IS ONGOING!!!!!
wow the persistent of 1 or 2 person or even group attacking something that they don't even own or not related. this should be illegal!
Jump to: