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Topic: Anonymous crypto loadable bitcoin debit card - No KYC - Private Card Services - page 14. (Read 7454 times)

legendary
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If it works who cares if it's Russian?

BTW, I don't see any information about how long it takes to load the card.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
My local shop would be rather surprised if I'd changed my name to Vitaly Kevchenko or something, but I can't remember the last time anyone checked a card I was using.

I'm not sure how fragile their relationships with card issuers would be, but it's certainly not going to be as robust as any Western operation. Like anything in cryptoland I would load and empty ASAP and not be all that surprised if it evaporated.
legendary
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Gentlemen, we've had a very productive discussion here. Let's keep it this way Smiley Other than that JollyGood please take a look at LeGaulois post, he has added the image of the card. You were inquiring about it before.

How much my knowledge of Cyrillic serves me (and I was forced to learn it in school), the card was issued by a Russian BTБ (VTB) bank https://www.vtb.ru/ . I had a personal suspicion that it was not a bank in the EU, and the card only confirms that. Given the sanctions that Russia has, all transactions are under control and everything suspiciously is reported.

Using a card like this on an ATM would make some sense to me, but for paying on POS devices in a place where more or less everyone knows me, it would attract attention. Card issued in someone else's name, in Cyrillic and owned by a Russian bank = big red flag.
copper member
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Anonymous debit cards - no KYC
Meanwhile FCA imposes a set of requirements on Wirecard's authorization,  Proof: https://www.fca.org.uk/news/news-stories/requirements-imposed-wirecard-authorisation

Wirecard is no longer permitted to conduct any regulated activities. It's interesting to follow how 3rd party services which use Wirecard will challenge that.
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I received the card, it took some time because the post office doesn't work properly in my country due to COVID19.
I will post an image tomorrow with a few details
(still can't host an image due to my very high-speed internet connection: download 1.19 Mbps- Upload 0.09Mbps, yes you can laugh)

The card comes with a document and a SIM card. Once received I got every instruction needed to use it. I will share my experience with it from time to time. I plan to use it with ATMs, POS, and online



Thank you for your feedback, I do not have you on my IGNORE list.

Until the time when someone who receives their card and posts their feedback I will reserve my comments because there is an unethical side to this manner of getting the card regardless of what the definition of wisdom might be in this case however your points have been noted.


Maybe so but it would make very interesting reading. Just exactly how they are operating is the thing I am curious about. After any forum member that receives their card from the OP leaves feedback along with photos of the card (minus private details) others including myself might be able to post constructive comments. There are several aspects of this whole process that do not make sense so when users post their feedback it will help shed some light on things that might be somewhat hazy right now.

I don't understand what you don't understand about how this service works? I've written a few times but here's another one if you haven't put me on ignore or it won't be hard for you to read.

OP is find people (or he is get access to people documents), and then account is open in some bank. That person is then deliver plastic card with all data to OP, and he is then sell that card to you. You pay for this service a little less than 1000 EUR per year, and that money is divided between the OP and the actual cardholder. The process is quite simple, there isn’t some great wisdom in how the whole thing works.

Gentlemen, we've had a very productive discussion here. Let's keep it this way Smiley Other than that JollyGood please take a look at LeGaulois post, he has added the image of the card. You were inquiring about it before.
sr. member
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I mentioned the word "unethical" once. Which user said it all the time? Can you provide a link to which users are saying it all the time?

literally you wrote this word once, however your previous posts seemed to have the same subtext
sorry to offend  you, I did not intend to do it
peace out  Smiley
legendary
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I mentioned the word "unethical" once. Which user said it all the time? Can you provide a link to which users are saying it all the time?


Until the time when someone who receives their card and posts their feedback I will reserve my comments because there is an unethical side to this manner of getting the card regardless of what the definition of wisdom might be in this case however your points have been noted.


hey, what "unethical side" are you talking about all the time??
sr. member
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ICO is evil

Until the time when someone who receives their card and posts their feedback I will reserve my comments because there is an unethical side to this manner of getting the card regardless of what the definition of wisdom might be in this case however your points have been noted.


hey, what "unethical side" are you talking about all the time?? OP cardholder and client are satisfied.
Again - cardholder does it on his own and gets money for it, it is business, and this is exactly what free market means, don't you understand it??
try not to think in terms of regulations because today nazi financial system laws will never allow you to make anything without passing verification procedure heh
if everything explained by the OP is true then it is really a nice solution, let's wait and see..
I had a similar card in the past and I am watching this topic with a great pleasure now  Roll Eyes Grin

copper member
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Maybe so but it would make very interesting reading. Just exactly how they are operating is the thing I am curious about. After any forum member that receives their card from the OP leaves feedback along with photos of the card (minus private details) others including myself might be able to post constructive comments. There are several aspects of this whole process that do not make sense so when users post their feedback it will help shed some light on things that might be somewhat hazy right now.

I don't understand what you don't understand about how this service works? I've written a few times but here's another one if you haven't put me on ignore or it won't be hard for you to read.

OP is find people (or he is get access to people documents), and then account is open in some bank. That person is then deliver plastic card with all data to OP, and he is then sell that card to you. You pay for this service a little less than 1000 EUR per year, and that money is divided between the OP and the actual cardholder. The process is quite simple, there isn’t some great wisdom in how the whole thing works.

Thanks for explanations, Lucius. You are quite on the spot regarding everything, except the "documents". I would like to point once again that process is fully transparent from the side of a nominee. We do not use anyone's personal data to open a bank account behind one's back, that's what you would really call unethical behavior, as you were already referring to earlier in this thread.
legendary
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Thank you for your feedback, I do not have you on my IGNORE list.

Until the time when someone who receives their card and posts their feedback I will reserve my comments because there is an unethical side to this manner of getting the card regardless of what the definition of wisdom might be in this case however your points have been noted.


Maybe so but it would make very interesting reading. Just exactly how they are operating is the thing I am curious about. After any forum member that receives their card from the OP leaves feedback along with photos of the card (minus private details) others including myself might be able to post constructive comments. There are several aspects of this whole process that do not make sense so when users post their feedback it will help shed some light on things that might be somewhat hazy right now.

I don't understand what you don't understand about how this service works? I've written a few times but here's another one if you haven't put me on ignore or it won't be hard for you to read.

OP is find people (or he is get access to people documents), and then account is open in some bank. That person is then deliver plastic card with all data to OP, and he is then sell that card to you. You pay for this service a little less than 1000 EUR per year, and that money is divided between the OP and the actual cardholder. The process is quite simple, there isn’t some great wisdom in how the whole thing works.
legendary
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Maybe so but it would make very interesting reading. Just exactly how they are operating is the thing I am curious about. After any forum member that receives their card from the OP leaves feedback along with photos of the card (minus private details) others including myself might be able to post constructive comments. There are several aspects of this whole process that do not make sense so when users post their feedback it will help shed some light on things that might be somewhat hazy right now.

I don't understand what you don't understand about how this service works? I've written a few times but here's another one if you haven't put me on ignore or it won't be hard for you to read.

OP is find people (or he is get access to people documents), and then account is open in some bank. That person is then deliver plastic card with all data to OP, and he is then sell that card to you. You pay for this service a little less than 1000 EUR per year, and that money is divided between the OP and the actual cardholder. The process is quite simple, there isn’t some great wisdom in how the whole thing works.
legendary
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Maybe so but it would make very interesting reading. Just exactly how they are operating is the thing I am curious about. After any forum member that receives their card from the OP leaves feedback along with photos of the card (minus private details) others including myself might be able to post constructive comments. There are several aspects of this whole process that do not make sense so when users post their feedback it will help shed some light on things that might be somewhat hazy right now.



Many thanks, it would be really interesting to see which the card issuer is and also what implications with regards to legality it will have on various jurisdictions.

The name of the card issuer is kind of irrelevant. As far as they're concerned it's a completely normal bank account like all the millions of others they run. It's the fooling them aspect that's the sketchy angle of the whole thing.
legendary
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The name of the card issuer is kind of irrelevant.

The bank is actually irrelevant, it can be any bank in the EU or abroad. The fact is that this service consists of you as a customer paying a certain fee for an account that someone will open in his name, and you then perform your transactions without worrying about paying taxes. Although the OP has obviously found a way to organize the whole service and I have no doubt that for now the whole thing works, some moral or ethical question arises from the fact that you are using the bank card and SIM card of another completely unknown person.

I do not need such a service for now, but I understand that there are people who ask for anonymity and are willing to pay for it, and do not have any moral or ethical doubts about such service.
legendary
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Many thanks, it would be really interesting to see which the card issuer is and also what implications with regards to legality it will have on various jurisdictions.

The name of the card issuer is kind of irrelevant. As far as they're concerned it's a completely normal bank account like all the millions of others they run. It's the fooling them aspect that's the sketchy angle of the whole thing.
legendary
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Many thanks, it would be really interesting to see which the card issuer is and also what implications with regards to legality it will have on various jurisdictions.


I received the card, it took some time because the post office doesn't work properly in my country due to COVID19.
I will post an image tomorrow with a few details
copper member
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I received the card, it took some time because the post office doesn't work properly in my country due to COVID19.
I will post an image tomorrow with a few details
(still can't host an image due to my very high-speed internet connection: download 1.19 Mbps- Upload 0.09Mbps, yes you can laugh)

The card comes with a document and a SIM card. Once received I got every instruction needed to use it. I will share my experience with it from time to time. I plan to use it with ATMs, POS, and online

edit to re-upload the image
https://imgur.com/a/EXoK4in
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Would you be able to post a screenshot of the card (minus your 16 digit number and private details of course), I am curious to know the name of the brand or card issuer.

I am a highly skeptical person and it takes a lot to make me shift my thinking one way or another from my gut instinct and I am not convinced by what I read from the OP but will hold back further comments until I have more information about what is going on.

As there is no website therefore there are no terms and conditions etc and of course there are no LTD/LLC to deal with in the event a user becomes a victim and decides to take legal action in a Court - it is all anonymous therefore anybody dealing with the OP should proceed with extreme caution.

I made a deposit to the escrow @Hhampuz and the card was shipped yesterday.
I will write here my feedback later.


Yes, I will share my experience.
I am a little bit skeptical as well, for this reason we agreed to have some test period after which the seller gets the deposit from the escrow.
legendary
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Would you be able to post a screenshot of the card (minus your 16 digit number and private details of course), I am curious to know the name of the brand or card issuer.

I am a highly skeptical person and it takes a lot to make me shift my thinking one way or another from my gut instinct and I am not convinced by what I read from the OP but will hold back further comments until I have more information about what is going on.

As there is no website therefore there are no terms and conditions etc and of course there are no LTD/LLC to deal with in the event a user becomes a victim and decides to take legal action in a Court - it is all anonymous therefore anybody dealing with the OP should proceed with extreme caution.

I made a deposit to the escrow @Hhampuz and the card was shipped yesterday.
I will write here my feedback later.

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I made a deposit to the escrow @Hhampuz and the card was shipped yesterday.
I will write here my feedback later.
copper member
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Anonymous debit cards - no KYC
If you are really ready to work via escrow and give me some period for the test then I am interested.

I contacted some trusted escrow members from the forum, but I need to talk first with you how we can make everything safe.
I sent you a PM.

Thanks, discussed everything via PM.

New types of cards are in stock with more flexible pricing.
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