Topic: Anonymous crypto loadable bitcoin debit card - No KYC - Private Card Services - page 17. (Read 8445 times)

It sounds interesting.
But what happens if bank closes the card for crypto usage? Moneyback?
I had bad experience in the past using BUNQ+Kraken. It was approved by BUNQ from the beginning but  after several withdrawals  account was suspended.

There are so many online services (like Amazon etc.) which do not support Bitcoin and where people still need to pay with a card. Hardly any of these services will be aware that you are a BTC owner  Same goes for ATMs, POS locations and so on around the world. I hope not all the bus drivers are so insightful

I should think my local bus driver knows I'm a BTC owner so my need for anonymity was shredded long ago.

Your service could be superb but it's an undeniably precarious string of circumstances. Anyone having a go should go into it with their eyes open.

All right, although I read this forum for almost 10 years - I am still noone for you. That's the main reason for your mistrust. I understand this and it's totally logical.

I can offer you to be the first one on this forum to do the "test drive" of our product. You will receive 1st year service free and the 500 EUR balance insurance amount which we guarantee will be deposited to the escrow of your choice: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-bitcointalks-escrow-providers-ranking-blacklist-avoid-scam-276897

The only thing we ask from you in return is an impersonal and unbiased review about our service.

Thanks for the offer but I'll leave it be. It may well be fine but it feels a little like a dodgy Netflix account that could evaporate any second, but you may have a whole lot more money tied up in it.

I can imagine this is the only viable way to do something like this but it's a kludge with a lot of potential pressure points.

Yes, escrow is included in the initial cost.

You are respected and trustworthy member of the community. We do not have any reasons against sending you the debit card package upfront with a 7 day trial period. If you don't like it after the trial period ends, you can just return the package back (backwards shipping cost is covered by you), otherwise you can make the payment and proceed using the card.

Hi,

- The cards are issued by regulated banks, card pickup is only possible in person in the bank branch. We have a private agreement with nominees, they give their consent for 3rd party usage. The individual receives a nominee fee for providing this service.
- Banks have their own "technical" limits, which restrict the amount you can withdraw via ATM, POS transactions volumes etc. and they vary depending on the bank you choose. The limits which you see in the product description above are set by our service. Based on our own experience there is a low probability that you will encounter additional compliance checks if you follow them.
- We do not intervene into our clients' business. In case there are additional checks from the side of the bank - we can assist and serve as intermediary, however you will need to provide explanations from your side.

Should you have any further questions, feel free to let us know.

Does the escrow involve the initial cost too?

The last time a card of this nature popped up the person offering it charged 200 Euros upfront. When they were satisfied with their haul they told everyone in the thread they were morons and disappeared.

I think I'd rather find the nearest wino and funnel everything through their ID. At least I'd know where to find them to kick them until they were dead if they annoyed me.

When you talk about individuals, did you get permission from them before allowing others to use their cards? Can I guarantee that you took permission from them?
What guarantees that these cards are not stolen or issued illegally? When I request it via the Internet, the police will search for my address, not your address.
Since you are an unknown service, how will it be dealt with when I cross the limits? We all know that some docs will be required after that limits.

Hi,

You are talking about 3D-secure. Yes, the debit cards which we provide support that feature, you won't have any problems paying online. 

Do you think you can be totally anonymous today and observe a law? 

Does the card come with payment verification feature like secure mastercard code or verified by visa?
Some sites make it impossible to pay without it.

We've noticed you have a great thread with a list of current debit card providers here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/carte-bancaire-bitcoin-et-autres-cryptomonnaies-5223719

As a Copper Member Legendary we are ready to offer you a debit card package during 1st year for free, in an exchange for unbiased review about our service. Feel free to drop your contact via PM.
Thanks.

We hope that readiness to work via a trusted escrow service will be more convincing for our clients. We understand your concerns however.
The website is in the process.

Do you happen to have a website or something more convincing than a simple thread on a forum?

Thanks, but we do not perceive the nominal services to be illegal in the EU.

Such a service would be illegal in the European Union.

Hi,

- Due to the nature of our product we have been providing the service privately for some time. Your concerns and fears are totally clear, that's why we are always ready to work via escrow of your choice, as stated in the initial post.
Perhaps some of our present clients will also drop a message in this thread.
- Client support is provided via telegram/jabber
- It is NOT a company card. Each card is registered under an individual
- Price 950 EUR per year/800 EUR extension

Some questions quickly:

- No website or information on who is behind the service.?
- Client support provided where?
- Is it a company card? The nominee makes me think it is
- Price?

We would like to offer the service of anonymous debit cards.

Whom is this service for? For those who care about anonymity, financial freedom and long term stability.

What is this for? Cash out bitcoin and other cryptos, pay online for goods and services, offline POS transactions.

What do we offer?

- MasterCard or VISA debit card issued under the name of the nominee, there is NO KYC required. Withdraw cash anonymously in thousands of ATMs worldwide, pay for purchases via POS terminals or on the Internet
- balance insurance of up to 500 EUR (equivalent) in case of unforeseen card blocking, caused by unauthorized actions of the nominee
- client support 10.30 am - 6.00 pm UTC/GMT +3 hours
- instructions on loading the card with crypto
- ready to work via escrow service of your choice: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-bitcointalks-escrow-providers-ranking-blacklist-avoid-scam-276897

*Service rules:

- normal operation of the card + account is guaranteed within the paid period (1 year)
- maximum allowed card transactions turnover per day - 3000 EUR (specific bank's limits may apply) or equivalent (based on the exchange rates on the date of operation)
- maximum allowed monthly turnover 20 000 EUR (specific bank's limits may apply)
- the ATM cash withdrawal turnover must NOT exceed 60% of the monthly turnover
- first card transaction must be non-cash: either POS or internet transaction
- it is necessary to keep the positive balance on the telephone number attached to the card (it can be loaded instantly from the card or via bitrefill.com), you also need to make a
paid action at least every 60 days - for example send an SMS message
- in case a temporary card block occurs and it is not related to breach of any of the rule - we solve this block for free without any involvement from your side
- in case a temporary card block occurs and it is related to breach of any of the rule, the administration fees will be applied

It is strictly PROHIBITED to use the card for activities such money transmitting fraud, scam, terrorism financing, prohibited substances, weapons, child pornography trade (in case of violation our service is not
responsible for the card and account, the card will be blocked, money for unused paid period will not be returned).

Product package includes:

- VISA/MasterCard debit card
- PIN code
- anonymous SIM card
- name and surname of the card holder
- online banking access
- android based smartphone with installed banking app - turn on the phone and start managing your account(s) and card(s) instantly (optional, by request)

Delivery: depending on your location. Due to COVID-19 situation shipping is only available via:

- regular mail
- EMS
- DHL
- CDEK

Physical delivery: plastic debit card, sim-card, smartphone (optional, by request)
Rest of details are provided digitally after the client confirmed receipt of the shipment.

PM or Telegram: @cards_service (in case of contacting via telegram double-check via PM with us for additional security)


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