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Quote from: adzino on October 23, 2020, 03:48:50 PM

Quote from: AlexPCS on October 22, 2020, 04:49:50 PM

Quote from: adzino on October 22, 2020, 03:51:57 PM

Not trying to trash your sale or anything, but a little curious. I have some questions. Based on few posts I have read, I guess we don't have to do KYC? But how is it "No KYC" or "Anonymous" if someone else does that on behalf of us? The cards are NOT anonymous. The cards have a name and probably the nominees [the person buying the card?] name on it. It cannot be considered KYC free (poor guy who did it probably has no clue what's actually happening or the huge risks involved with it). What is the use of getting consent from someone if that person is being (highly likely) exploited? ~~How can we even tell if you are not using stolen ID cards to open accounts?~~

Quote from: AlexPCS on May 10, 2020, 03:36:55 PM

4. We mainly work with NON-residents, so the individual is not a subject to tax in the country of the bank where the account/card is applied for. Besides that bank does control physical location and where the person is traveling.

That's bullshit. Even non residents are subject to taxes in one way or the other. At least in most of the countries. Even if they are non resident of a country and isn't subject to any tax (which I doubt), they will at least have to pay taxes in their home country. Now don't tell me they don't have to pay taxes anywhere.

Did Lucius ask you to post? Joking Wink

On opposite, I really welcome every new member in this thread. Productive discussion is always good. As I have written before KYC is not done on your behalf. You have it as a bearer card.

I have only written "is not a subject to tax in the country of the bank where the account/card is applied for."

Someone is doing the KYC, right? And someone HAS to pay the taxes. Or is this an easy way for the person using the cards to "evade taxes" (that's illegal)?
Also, you are shipping the card to the buyers address, so the person buying is no longer anonymous (unless he takes drastic measures to receive the packages anonymously through renting mailbox and submitting fake information/id).

Quote from: AlexPCS on April 30, 2020, 04:39:24 AM

-snip-
It is strictly PROHIBITED to use the card for activities such money transmitting fraud, scam, terrorism financing, prohibited substances, weapons, child pornography trade (in case of violation our service is not
responsible for the card and account, the card will be blocked, money for unused paid period will not be returned).
-snip-

I guess you are no longer responsible for the card the moment someone starts using those cards since they break the terms of service (tax evasion through money laundering).
And I am so glad you haven't denied that you are exploiting (unsuspecting) people. At least you are being honest over here. Do you pay them most of the money you receive from here or you just pocket them all?

Please don't worry, everyone is satisfied in this chain Wink

Could you please point where did we mention that our product is provided for "tax evasion"? You've implied that yourself and we cannot be responsible for that. You can find detailed description of our product in the OP, it has nothing to do with tax evasion and other aspects which you have mentioned.

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Quote from: AlexPCS on October 22, 2020, 04:49:50 PM

Quote from: adzino on October 22, 2020, 03:51:57 PM

Not trying to trash your sale or anything, but a little curious. I have some questions. Based on few posts I have read, I guess we don't have to do KYC? But how is it "No KYC" or "Anonymous" if someone else does that on behalf of us? The cards are NOT anonymous. The cards have a name and probably the nominees [the person buying the card?] name on it. It cannot be considered KYC free (poor guy who did it probably has no clue what's actually happening or the huge risks involved with it). What is the use of getting consent from someone if that person is being (highly likely) exploited? ~~How can we even tell if you are not using stolen ID cards to open accounts?~~

Quote from: AlexPCS on May 10, 2020, 03:36:55 PM

4. We mainly work with NON-residents, so the individual is not a subject to tax in the country of the bank where the account/card is applied for. Besides that bank does control physical location and where the person is traveling.

That's bullshit. Even non residents are subject to taxes in one way or the other. At least in most of the countries. Even if they are non resident of a country and isn't subject to any tax (which I doubt), they will at least have to pay taxes in their home country. Now don't tell me they don't have to pay taxes anywhere.

Did Lucius ask you to post? Joking Wink

On opposite, I really welcome every new member in this thread. Productive discussion is always good. As I have written before KYC is not done on your behalf. You have it as a bearer card.

I have only written "is not a subject to tax in the country of the bank where the account/card is applied for."

Someone is doing the KYC, right? And someone HAS to pay the taxes. Or is this an easy way for the person using the cards to "evade taxes" (that's illegal)?
Also, you are shipping the card to the buyers address, so the person buying is no longer anonymous (unless he takes drastic measures to receive the packages anonymously through renting mailbox and submitting fake information/id).

Quote from: AlexPCS on April 30, 2020, 04:39:24 AM

-snip-
It is strictly PROHIBITED to use the card for activities such money transmitting fraud, scam, terrorism financing, prohibited substances, weapons, child pornography trade (in case of violation our service is not
responsible for the card and account, the card will be blocked, money for unused paid period will not be returned).
-snip-

I guess you are no longer responsible for the card the moment someone starts using those cards since they break the terms of service (tax evasion through money laundering).
And I am so glad you haven't denied that you are exploiting (unsuspecting) people. At least you are being honest over here. Do you pay them most of the money you receive from here or you just pocket them all?

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Anonymous debit cards - no KYC

Quote from: adzino on October 22, 2020, 03:51:57 PM

Quote from: AlexPCS on October 20, 2020, 11:57:13 AM

The cards are anonymous for those who are using them, that is the main point. As it has been discussed already, we are not using anyone's identity, account is opened with person's consent.

Not trying to trash your sale or anything, but a little curious. I have some questions. Based on few posts I have read, I guess we don't have to do KYC? But how is it "No KYC" or "Anonymous" if someone else does that on behalf of us? The cards are NOT anonymous. The cards have a name and probably the nominees [the person buying the card?] name on it. It cannot be considered KYC free (poor guy who did it probably has no clue what's actually happening or the huge risks involved with it). What is the use of getting consent from someone if that person is being (highly likely) exploited? ~~How can we even tell if you are not using stolen ID cards to open accounts?~~

Quote from: AlexPCS on May 10, 2020, 03:36:55 PM

4. We mainly work with NON-residents, so the individual is not a subject to tax in the country of the bank where the account/card is applied for. Besides that bank does control physical location and where the person is traveling.

That's bullshit. Even non residents are subject to taxes in one way or the other. At least in most of the countries. Even if they are non resident of a country and isn't subject to any tax (which I doubt), they will at least have to pay taxes in their home country. Now don't tell me they don't have to pay taxes anywhere.

Did Lucius ask you to post? Joking Wink

On opposite, I really welcome every new member in this thread. Productive discussion is always good. As I have written before KYC is not done on your behalf. You have it as a bearer card.

I have only written "is not a subject to tax in the country of the bank where the account/card is applied for."

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Quote from: AlexPCS on October 20, 2020, 11:57:13 AM

The cards are anonymous for those who are using them, that is the main point. As it has been discussed already, we are not using anyone's identity, account is opened with person's consent.

Not trying to trash your sale or anything, but a little curious. I have some questions. Based on few posts I have read, I guess we don't have to do KYC? But how is it "No KYC" or "Anonymous" if someone else does that on behalf of us? The cards are NOT anonymous. The cards have a name and probably the nominees [the person buying the card?] name on it. It cannot be considered KYC free (poor guy who did it probably has no clue what's actually happening or the huge risks involved with it). What is the use of getting consent from someone if that person is being (highly likely) exploited? ~~How can we even tell if you are not using stolen ID cards to open accounts?~~

Quote from: AlexPCS on May 10, 2020, 03:36:55 PM

4. We mainly work with NON-residents, so the individual is not a subject to tax in the country of the bank where the account/card is applied for. Besides that bank does control physical location and where the person is traveling.

That's bullshit. Even non residents are subject to taxes in one way or the other. At least in most of the countries. Even if they are non resident of a country and isn't subject to any tax (which I doubt), they will at least have to pay taxes in their home country. Now don't tell me they don't have to pay taxes anywhere.

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Quote from: Lucius on October 21, 2020, 05:38:50 AM

Quote from: AlexPCS on October 20, 2020, 11:57:13 AM

The cards are anonymous for those who are using them, that is the main point. As it has been discussed already, we are not using anyone's identity, account is opened with person's consent.

Can you explain why opening such bank accounts is done exclusively online and with the use of VPN? While it is possible to have legal documents and consent from those people that their bank cards are used in this way, why are you hiding the trail and opening bank accounts using a VPN? Of course, I'm not writing this just like that, I know for sure that accounts are opened this way.

Now that LeGaulois has clearly stated that you received this information from him I would like to make a small note. As you can see through the thread we offer debit cards from different banks, while LeGaulois shared his opinion only regarding the card he has. In your post above you've however generalized and wrote accountS (in plural) as if you already knew how other banks handle their registration and account opening procedures as well. I hope you get my point.

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Quote from: LeGaulois on October 22, 2020, 07:48:46 AM

@Lucius is not lying, that's what I told him because that's what you told me yourself (by privnote.com precisely).

When I received the account details it was clearly stated that the account was opened with a VPN and an IP from Austria.
I even remember it was stated the VPN used was from protonVPN. This is not something I could make up, and I have no reason to lie to @Lucius. I had even talked about it on the french forum.

Good that you have written, now I understand where this misinformation is coming from Wink

You are mixing up the words, I have written "accessed" or "initial setup" most probably, but not "opened". Opening a bank account and registering for online banking are two different things. Opening a bank account/applying for a card is a procedure which requires physical presence in the bank branch. Online banking can be set up up later online, but only after you've gone through all the administrative procedures, your initial application has been approved and you have received your debit card.

Now let's get back to your case specifically, it will help everyone understand that your statement regarding "opening account online via vpn" is indeed misleading. You have the card from us which is issued by vtb.ru bank. Vtb is one of the largest russian banks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTB_Bank Its account opening procedures are explicitly described on the official web-site. This information is public. You can also call the bank and find out directly what do you need to open a bank account in there, the first requirement will be personal presence in one of the bank's branch.

I believe to have explained this well enough. If you have any constructive questions, feel free.

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@Lucius is not lying, that's what I told him because that's what you told me yourself (by privnote.com precisely).

When I received the account details it was clearly stated that the account was opened with a VPN and an IP from Austria.
I even remember it was stated the VPN used was from protonVPN. This is not something I could make up, and I have no reason to lie to @Lucius. I had even talked about it on the french forum.

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Quote from: Lucius on October 21, 2020, 05:38:50 AM

Quote from: AlexPCS on October 20, 2020, 11:57:13 AM

The cards are anonymous for those who are using them, that is the main point. As it has been discussed already, we are not using anyone's identity, account is opened with person's consent.

Can you explain why opening such bank accounts is done exclusively online and with the use of VPN? While it is possible to have legal documents and consent from those people that their bank cards are used in this way, why are you hiding the trail and opening bank accounts using a VPN? Of course, I'm not writing this just like that, I know for sure that accounts are opened this way.

Thank you for your post. I'm sorry but you've just demonstrated again that you are writing the posts just for the sake of writing them. If you take a closer look through the thread, you could notice some of the banks which we provide. Each of those banks requires physical presence of an individual to open the account. The information is not hidden. You can see the name of the bank, you can go ahead and study all the information about the account opening procedure on official website. If you manage to open an account at least with any of those banks online, "with the use of VPN" - please tell us.

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Quote from: AlexPCS on October 20, 2020, 11:57:13 AM

The cards are anonymous for those who are using them, that is the main point. As it has been discussed already, we are not using anyone's identity, account is opened with person's consent.

Can you explain why opening such bank accounts is done exclusively online and with the use of VPN? While it is possible to have legal documents and consent from those people that their bank cards are used in this way, why are you hiding the trail and opening bank accounts using a VPN? Of course, I'm not writing this just like that, I know for sure that accounts are opened this way.

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Quote from: Gh0x on October 20, 2020, 10:58:35 AM

Looks legit, sent a pm for more info.

Thanks, replies already.

Quote from: dkbit98 on October 20, 2020, 08:20:05 AM

AlexPCS, I saw some trusted bitcointalk members vouched and escrowed your deals and that is good, but I can't see anywhere how much you charge for all this and how are people loading cards with crypto.
I guess cards are not really anonymous but they used identity of some other real human being in various countries.

Yes, price is 950 EUR per 1st year/800 EUR extension, it's on the 1st page of this thread. We'll update the OP with price info,

The cards are anonymous for those who are using them, that is the main point. As it has been discussed already, we are not using anyone's identity, account is opened with person's consent.

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Looks legit, sent a pm for more info.

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AlexPCS, I saw some trusted bitcointalk members vouched and escrowed your deals and that is good, but I can't see anywhere how much you charge for all this and how are people loading cards with crypto.
I guess cards are not really anonymous but they used identity of some other real human being in various countries.

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This guy is legit came through for me.
Was a bit skeptical but hes legit af.

cheers man!!

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This is actually an easy way to use any card without regular access to sim and smartphone

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I paid the Tinkof bank account with card and needed urgently generate some virtual cards and access to VBV codes.
Alex did amazing thing for me, he helped setup android virtual machine with Tinkof mobile app and configure VBV codes to popup in push notifications!
Some days ago I received plastic card as well.

Five star service.

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Friendly contact. Introduced a friend from Brazil to him and he reportedly is very happy with the service.

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Quote from: Arkyo on September 30, 2020, 03:31:57 PM

Funny, this time I came upon this topic while googling for anonymous bitcoin debit card Grin

Are there any negative feedbacks??

Welcome ) If you have any doubts regarding the service, you can always use the escrow service, like some of our clients have done already.

New cards are in stock, telegram @cards_service or get in touch via PM and we'll proceed from there.

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Funny, this time I came upon this topic while googling for anonymous bitcoin debit card Grin

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I received my first Tinkoff card two months ago and the second one was delivered just a week ago..yandex
both cards can be used to convert crypto
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We often receive requests via PM. Please don't forget to leave your contact information so we could get in touch with you. We do our best to reply ASAP, but PM notifications might end up in spam, so you won't know that we have replied you.
We have also added our public telegram contact to OP.

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