Topic: Another side of Sports betting you may not know about - page 2. (Read 872 times)

Quote from: Z390 on May 22, 2023, 12:43:15 PM

What you are saying will actually just be a chain that rotates in a gambling because the insiders who participate in betting also use larger amounts of money so there will be no possible operation that will succeed because everything will return to the money where when there is money in huge amount no one can stop it.
Actually this is very detrimental for us because it can change the results that should already be obvious.
But it's also those with the bigger bucks who will reign supreme in sports betting.

There are many cases in sports betting and especially in football, sometimes there is fixing the score in every game so that we can lose because we chose the wrong club with the seed, that's why I'm more interested in sports betting in the big league and never betting on the minor leagues because it usually happens a lot. fraud in it and many people who do business like that.

I've heard of cheating cases like this in football, where insiders already know the results so they can bet big money to get big wins too in the stakes. Cheesy

Do you really think that no fixing happens in the big leagues? If you think so, you are wrong. Fixing or cheating is done even in the big leagues and tournaments but it is done on a lower scale and done very secretly so that the news about such things never surpasses, even if the management comes to know about it, they would never disclose it knowing it will ruin the reputation of the team.

And about insiders, yes, it happens a lot of times when insiders know the results in advance, and they sometimes manage to place bets based on that and win a lot of money but sometimes they are not allowed to do so.

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Imagine placing a bet on the fastest runner, which looks like a sure win to you and the runner decides to pretend to be weak and give the 1st position to another runner, the truth is you will never know if the runner took a bribe to lose the game intentionally, this is one of the ugly sides of placing bets that gamblers have no control over.

Scripted matches can be planned so neat that no one will ever know about, some people are saying that such things don't happen with popular sports but I doubt it, because this is money we are talking about here, powerful enough for some group of people to make a decision that will change the entire future of a sport match.

Very well said, I think based on experience, I've reached the level where I no longer say or believe that something is impossible, most especially, when it has to do with something like what is being discussed here.

Fixed games, or scripted matches rather, is very possible, as long as money is involved, money changes gives everything except life, and to see how power money is, it can save lives.

It's just like the last game Arsenal played against Brighton, many believed that Arsenal sold that game to Brighton, cus they can't believe how it became possible for Brighton to beat Arsenal with 3 goals to nothing, typical example of what a scripted match feels like.

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Imagine placing a bet on the fastest runner, which looks like a sure win to you and the runner decides to pretend to be weak and give the 1st position to another runner, the truth is you will never know if the runner took a bribe to lose the game intentionally, this is one of the ugly sides of placing bets that gamblers have no control over.

Scripted matches can be planned so neat that no one will ever know about, some people are saying that such things don't happen with popular sports but I doubt it, because this is money we are talking about here, powerful enough for some group of people to make a decision that will change the entire future of a sport match.

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Quote from: Silberman on May 22, 2023, 01:22:26 AM

There are many cases in sports betting and especially in football, sometimes there is fixing the score in every game so that we can lose because we chose the wrong club with the seed, that's why I'm more interested in sports betting in the big league and never betting on the minor leagues because it usually happens a lot. fraud in it and many people who do business like that.

I've heard of cheating cases like this in football, where insiders already know the results so they can bet big money to get big wins too in the stakes. Cheesy

Fixing games without a doubt is way more common on leagues which are not really popular, as not only a lot of money is moving on the more popular leagues and as such it is more difficult to bribe the players as they will not want to take the risk to lose it all for a single time payment, but also the fact the fans watch those matches makes way more difficult to hide the fact there was some cheating involved, however on those unpopular leagues this is easier to do and even if the fans realize what is happening, most of the time nothing really happens, so the incentive to fix games and cheat is way higher there.

I think match fixing is more common in boxing. We often see unfair judging and referee intervention to change the course of the match, it happens plenty in the history of boxing. The stated scenario that recently happen are the match of Devin Haney and Lomachenco getting a controversial decision, and Tony Weeks making a controversial stoppage in the fight between Romero and Barroso. Relating these controversial event to spots betting, isn't it possible that these accused of fixing the match is somehow made a bet and made a decision that will secure themselves of winning?

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Quote from: klidex on May 21, 2023, 09:15:30 AM

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What you are saying will actually just be a chain that rotates in a gambling because the insiders who participate in betting also use larger amounts of money so there will be no possible operation that will succeed because everything will return to the money where when there is money in huge amount no one can stop it.
Actually this is very detrimental for us because it can change the results that should already be obvious.
But it's also those with the bigger bucks who will reign supreme in sports betting.

And they can also use money from corruption which is then used for betting, and we know that is part of laundering money from the proceeds of illegal activities. And when it is money from money laundering, the amount will be huge, and we will not be able to imagine it. We can only go with the flow and hope we get lucky and win with them. After all, if we win, it's a great result for us. But if they can change the match's outcome, we have nothing to do and can only accept their loss.

Quote from: kamvreto on May 20, 2023, 06:33:25 PM

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As long as the insider relationship is good, I don't think anyone will leak the information.
Actually, insider bets will only be known between one dealer and another, only 2 people or three people, and as long as the dealer is fair in distributing the results of the money, of course they always work well together without divulging any information.
Because if one leaks insider betting information, of course he will also reveal all information related to one another that has deceived many people.

No one will leak it if those involved in the bet have agreed beforehand and can take care of each other. And that seems to have happened where they can bet and benefit from it. They are the ones who will win a lot of money because they can find out more detailed information, while outsiders won't know and will experience defeat if they don't follow the dealer.

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Quote from: maydna on May 20, 2023, 08:24:08 AM

Especially if many people are involved in such practices, they would cover it up tightly and not let anyone else know about it. The checks carried out may only be for formality so that the public knows that the officers involved have checked everything and made sure everything is safe. Maybe big fights are the main target, but they will involve a lot of people in it, and if it gets caught by the public, it could cause the public's trust to drop drastically, and they won't give their support anymore.

that's the risk, but we can see that at the moment there is no news whatsoever about insider betting news. It is indeed completely private and only a few people know about it, and many money transactions are carried out. this could be a side practice of some other player or staff, a behind the scenes practice completely protected from the outside world.
inspection is only a formality, but in reality all rottenness is properly covered up. Nowadays platforms for betting are easier to access, easier to do without a trace.

With cryptocurrency casinos available all around the world, it is not a matter anymore to place bets on sports events from anywhere, so if an insider wants to place bets, they can easily do it with a cryptocurrency casino without anyone noticing or having any doubt unless the person who makes the bets gets caught because of his mobile being examined which is not a very likely scenario.

So with the advent of online casinos, it has become very easy for insiders in sports to cheat and win a lot of money by placing bets on teams they know will win their sources are never wrong, and no one can really stop all this.

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There are many cases in sports betting and especially in football, sometimes there is fixing the score in every game so that we can lose because we chose the wrong club with the seed, that's why I'm more interested in sports betting in the big league and never betting on the minor leagues because it usually happens a lot. fraud in it and many people who do business like that.

I've heard of cheating cases like this in football, where insiders already know the results so they can bet big money to get big wins too in the stakes. Cheesy

Fixing games without a doubt is way more common on leagues which are not really popular, as not only a lot of money is moving on the more popular leagues and as such it is more difficult to bribe the players as they will not want to take the risk to lose it all for a single time payment, but also the fact the fans watch those matches makes way more difficult to hide the fact there was some cheating involved, however on those unpopular leagues this is easier to do and even if the fans realize what is happening, most of the time nothing really happens, so the incentive to fix games and cheat is way higher there.

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And that is why we will never know about insider betting news. Everything can be found if someone is caught in a secret operation by officers looking for insider bets and cleaning up everything from the frauds they are doing. But it will all depend on how secret the operation info is so that no one will leak it. It's like an insider looking for faults where the people know each other and have worked together for several years. And knowing that or tracking it has never been easier.

As long as the insider relationship is good, I don't think anyone will leak the information.
Actually, insider bets will only be known between one dealer and another, only 2 people or three people, and as long as the dealer is fair in distributing the results of the money, of course they always work well together without divulging any information.
Because if one leaks insider betting information, of course he will also reveal all information related to one another that has deceived many people.

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And that is why we will never know about insider betting news. Everything can be found if someone is caught in a secret operation by officers looking for insider bets and cleaning up everything from the frauds they are doing. But it will all depend on how secret the operation info is so that no one will leak it. It's like an insider looking for faults where the people know each other and have worked together for several years. And knowing that or tracking it has never been easier.

What you are saying will actually just be a chain that rotates in a gambling because the insiders who participate in betting also use larger amounts of money so there will be no possible operation that will succeed because everything will return to the money where when there is money in huge amount no one can stop it.
Actually this is very detrimental for us because it can change the results that should already be obvious.
But it's also those with the bigger bucks who will reign supreme in sports betting.

Of course this scenario is like this is very detrimental and becomes an unfair gamble for us who are generally following the gamble in one of the teams that should have won but are required to lose, this is the dark side of the soccer or other sports gains and seems to be easily in manipulation among insiders.
No matter how much the money used by people inside to manipulate this, of course it is not a fair thing and is very detrimental to many parties who should benefit from their betting. But indeed things like this are very difficult for us to detect it because in cases like this the game is very neat. Because of that I am one of the people who rarely do sports gambling.

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I think scripted match is nothing new, there has been many cases founded since long time ago. It's already become hard because the government are tightening rule and identity verification, so they can see the money flowing, who's send to who, how much they send etc.

I've heard of cheating cases like this in football, where insiders already know the results so they can bet big money to get big wins too in the stakes. Cheesy

Maybe the Liverpool vs Manchester United match where Liverpool scored 7 goals was a scripted match? Cheesy

No one was expect Liverpool can score 7 goals when they were playing very bad at that time.

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And that is why we will never know about insider betting news. Everything can be found if someone is caught in a secret operation by officers looking for insider bets and cleaning up everything from the frauds they are doing. But it will all depend on how secret the operation info is so that no one will leak it. It's like an insider looking for faults where the people know each other and have worked together for several years. And knowing that or tracking it has never been easier.

What you are saying will actually just be a chain that rotates in a gambling because the insiders who participate in betting also use larger amounts of money so there will be no possible operation that will succeed because everything will return to the money where when there is money in huge amount no one can stop it.
Actually this is very detrimental for us because it can change the results that should already be obvious.
But it's also those with the bigger bucks who will reign supreme in sports betting.

There are many cases in sports betting and especially in football, sometimes there is fixing the score in every game so that we can lose because we chose the wrong club with the seed, that's why I'm more interested in sports betting in the big league and never betting on the minor leagues because it usually happens a lot. fraud in it and many people who do business like that.

I've heard of cheating cases like this in football, where insiders already know the results so they can bet big money to get big wins too in the stakes. Cheesy

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