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[.....]But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence.
This is old news to me. I'm not bragging or anything but I've read quite enough cases of rigged games or match-fixing and all of them stems from sportsbetting. I'm pretty sure a lot of bettors are familiar with this as well. It's a huge business that's why I'm not surprised with court rulings that legalizes betting despite the potential impact on the integrity of the sports.
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Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.


1. https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/23501236/supreme-court-strikes-federal-law-prohibiting-sports-gambling

2. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10073237-lions-jameson-williams-among-nfl-players-suspended-for-violating-gambling-policy.amp.html

It's not always a very smiled at act for participants of any sport, especially when there team is amongst the match fixtures to place bets either in favour or against a team.
It introduces bias as, these participants can go extra and unimaginable length to ensure there bets play out as predicted.
You can have a team putting in efforts to lose, scoring own goals or even taking hard drugs to increase performance in a game. These are just a list of possibilities and that's the part where the public won't be aware of and it would to a large extent hinder fair play. It's why it remains a frown at act and a practice that can't be allowed to linger in the sporting system.
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Of course, this isn't a concern exclusive to NFL. This is a challenge to all sports including ESports.

A month or two ago, I shared that a neighbor was involved in game fixing. He's a professional DOTA II player who's already climbed through the ranks and was playing on the international stage. The talk is that a huge bet is involved and that they're all paid. They were found guilty and was banned by Valve.

Just very recently also, an investigation was started on game fixing allegations involving certain players of the largest basketball league here and a Singaporean businessman. The same businessman is also accused of the same in a basketball league in Thailand. Again, sports betting is also involved.

These are examples why public confidence of these leagues or contests is lost. The integrity of these games is lost. While many are still watching these games, it is undeniable that many also believe that there could be arrangements or negotiations behind.
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Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

This certainly applies to all sports.
In the past, we only saw this happen in boxing, because from the beginning it was a sport that attracted a lot of bets on who would win or win, until today we have plenty of examples of movies that portray this type of crime.

As sports betting has been taking the digital media and expanding to other sports, we have seen that the corruption of players and athletes is reaching the most diverse sports.
In higher level championships where players win "absurdly well" it is more difficult to see this occur, as the risk of manipulating a result is not worth it when you have a reputation to protect on the field, and losing that reputation will cost a lot. more expensive than the reward for manipulating the outcome of the game.

Anyway, this is indeed a dark side of gambling, which unfortunately has no turning back, but it is still a minority among many sports games that we have.
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Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.


1. https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/23501236/supreme-court-strikes-federal-law-prohibiting-sports-gambling

2. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10073237-lions-jameson-williams-among-nfl-players-suspended-for-violating-gambling-policy.amp.html

Isn't it because betting in their own games are frowned upon, if not downright illegal? Afaik it is illegal though. Regardless of the stance if the player, whether they bet on their win or loss, the fact that they gambled on their own game kind of splashes them with cold water which cools down their passion for the match. It's just that bad imo.

Let's not even mention it becoming a rigged game due to that, that may be the worst case scenario, but that's what all people should always assume imo.
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Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.
These concerns are real, and it is not just singular to only football but any sporting contest that has a large audience of sport bettors. During the just concluded FIFA world cup, many people believed that the competition was manipulated and that big sports betting companies may have had an influence, although these were just mere talks that were not backed by any facts, it does not take away that possibility from the hearts and minds of people who will begin to question the integrity of this sporting contest and reduce people's confidence in it.
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I do think it is a factor when your team discovers that majority of the people betted against your team. Not only do you lose morale but you also have this urge to join the bet yourself, thereby losing games more for the sake of money. I guess this is what they call "game fixing" where players are also involved in the betting process and they intentionally lose or throw the game to win money on their gambling accounts.
Its becoming to be a rigged game not by someone huge to pay to certain player but an individual decision which is more scary than people think because its the player's decision and probably its a against their sport ethics, policy of its agency and by laws related to it.
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My guess is that they've affected the other teams moral and somehow lost thier appetite to win when they learned Jameson and the NFL gangs bet for the other team. They were like influencers that acted like a bookie who identifies which team could win.

I'm not sure if this is what the congress mean when they say potential harm posed sports betting. We all know there always is an underdog, the other team should just take it as challenge. Its sure the Congress means gambling addiction or kids exposure to gambling.

I do think it is a factor when your team discovers that majority of the people betted against your team. Not only do you lose morale but you also have this urge to join the bet yourself, thereby losing games more for the sake of money. I guess this is what they call "game fixing" where players are also involved in the betting process and they intentionally lose or throw the game to win money on their gambling accounts.

This happens rarely but the potential of it from happening is possible. I remember, there was a basketball game hosted in the Philippines and you can see the players on one team throwing the game by missing all of the free shots and intentionally losing the game.

If you guys are interested in watching it, I will leave the link below:

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc9QCbO5Ph8&t=383s
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My guess is that they've affected the other teams moral and somehow lost thier appetite to win when they learned Jameson and the NFL gangs bet for the other team. They were like influencers that acted like a bookie who identifies which team could win.

I'm not sure if this is what the congress mean when they say potential harm posed sports betting. We all know there always is an underdog, the other team should just take it as challenge. Its sure the Congress means gambling addiction or kids exposure to gambling.
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Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.


1. https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/23501236/supreme-court-strikes-federal-law-prohibiting-sports-gambling

2. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10073237-lions-jameson-williams-among-nfl-players-suspended-for-violating-gambling-policy.amp.html
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