If someone who's a professional player, there should be some contract that they're not allowed to gamble. They could be allowed to advertise or have a sponsor that's a bookie and have it as their icon somewhere on their jersey.
That's just about ethics of a professional player and they should know all about it. The thing is, we don't know if all of them are following that rule and just as Jameson.
The prohibition of them to get involved in gambling because that can affect their performances if they've got bets even if it's just a penny, it shouldn't be allowed.
Topic: Another side of Sports betting you may not know about - page 6. (Read 830 times)
I don't think sportsbetting is to be blamed here. This is clearly the fault of the player iteelf. Insider betting is a deliberate offense and an insult to the integrity of the game they undoubtedly invested years and years of professional training for. And it's not like he's jot getting paid well, from the looks of it the guy's a pretty well/known athlete in his sport and is probably getting paid more than enough to keep his business with the team running. This is just a classic case of suooting yourself in the foot. Also, it's not like there's no other way for him to bet. You can literally gamble with anything.
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Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.
This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.
1. https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/23501236/supreme-court-strikes-federal-law-prohibiting-sports-gambling
2. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10073237-lions-jameson-williams-among-nfl-players-suspended-for-violating-gambling-policy.amp.html
That is correct, and it is also the reason why sports betting can't simply vanish from the daily life of those people. It's already part of their tradition and culture along several generations, therefore it's not easy to stop it from existing through a brand new created regulation. The negative side of betting on sports isn't enough to forbid it right now, because it's not something new in sports.
There have always been corrupt athletes, coaches, referees and leagues' officials who attempted to profit from betting by cheating on the results of the matches for all this time. But why to use this excuse only now to prevent people from betting? Isolated cheating attempts have never prevented sports betting from working and being successful with its public.
well, you don't know how hard to be an athlete. There have always been corrupt athletes, coaches, referees and leagues' officials who attempted to profit from betting by cheating on the results of the matches for all this time. But why to use this excuse only now to prevent people from betting? Isolated cheating attempts have never prevented sports betting from working and being successful with its public.
It's just like a job for you, especially the one who need money for living. The winning price is not much to sustain your living expenses.
they will cheers for you when you win and they leave you when you lose. Unless you have been bought and accepted the agreement.
America, England, Australia and many other countries, it is known that from ancient times the people there have implemented sports betting as a tradition that is often at stake, do not be surprised if in the betting process many negative things happen, for this reason, it's not surprising that we often see sports betting such as: Rugby, WWE, cricket, Boxing, UFC, Golf and many others, being found to violate some of the rules and policies that have been determined in gambling
That is correct, and it is also the reason why sports betting can't simply vanish from the daily life of those people. It's already part of their tradition and culture along several generations, therefore it's not easy to stop it from existing through a brand new created regulation. The negative side of betting on sports isn't enough to forbid it right now, because it's not something new in sports.There have always been corrupt athletes, coaches, referees and leagues officials who attempted to profit from betting by cheating on the results of the matches for all this time. But why use this excuse only now to prevent people from betting? Isolated cheating attempts have never prevented sports betting from working and being successful with the public.
Gambling has been a part of most European country's culture and traditions and anywhere that gambling exists, cheating and corruption also exist simply because it is their way to make money. New regulation policies might exist each day but stopping people from gambling will always be a big challenge to them. Nowadays, they are also implementing and trying to apply different strategies to stop people from gambling but I don't think their strategies would last because no matter what they do, gamblers will always find ways to bet and gamble.
America, England, Australia and many other countries, it is known that from ancient times the people there have implemented sports betting as a tradition that is often at stake, do not be surprised if in the betting process many negative things happen, for this reason, it's not surprising that we often see sports betting such as: Rugby, WWE, cricket, Boxing, UFC, Golf and many others, being found to violate some of the rules and policies that have been determined in gambling
That is correct, and it is also the reason why sports betting can't simply vanish from the daily life of those people. It's already part of their tradition and culture along several generations, therefore it's not easy to stop it from existing through a brand new created regulation. The negative side of betting on sports isn't enough to forbid it right now, because it's not something new in sports.There have always been corrupt athletes, coaches, referees and leagues' officials who attempted to profit from betting by cheating on the results of the matches for all this time. But why to use this excuse only now to prevent people from betting? Isolated cheating attempts have never prevented sports betting from working and being successful with its public.
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Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.
This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.
1. https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/23501236/supreme-court-strikes-federal-law-prohibiting-sports-gambling
2. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10073237-lions-jameson-williams-among-nfl-players-suspended-for-violating-gambling-policy.amp.html
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pjc50
It's a bit of a misnomer. The NFL doesn't have a ban on sports betting. In fact, it's an
exception to the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election
Committee, which was struck down by the NFL.
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dangrossman
I'm going to start by saying that I have no problem with sports betting. I've
already dealt with it a few times in the past, but I can't help but feel that
it's time to get serious about it.
I don't know how to play sports, but I do know that I'm not the only person who
wants to bet on sports. I've come
across a few that I feel are worth a shot.
I'd like to make a point of not having to worry about it at all. I'm not
entirely looking for a job, I'm just trying to get my head around the concept
of sports betting.
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craigbass
> I've been to a few sports betting events and
pjc50
It's a bit of a misnomer. The NFL doesn't have a ban on sports betting. In fact, it's an
exception to the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election
Committee, which was struck down by the NFL.
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dangrossman
I'm going to start by saying that I have no problem with sports betting. I've
already dealt with it a few times in the past, but I can't help but feel that
it's time to get serious about it.
I don't know how to play sports, but I do know that I'm not the only person who
wants to bet on sports. I've come
across a few that I feel are worth a shot.
I'd like to make a point of not having to worry about it at all. I'm not
entirely looking for a job, I'm just trying to get my head around the concept
of sports betting.
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craigbass
> I've been to a few sports betting events and
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Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.
My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.
Public perception is powerful sports organizations expect a high level of competition for the public to enjoy, if players are involved in sports betting, they will think that players are betting for the other teams, so while the players or fighters are still active, they should refrain from being involved in sports betting, it will corrode confidence in the whole sports organizations.
This is just right the sports organizations just want to protect their integrity, sports organizations will be ruin if there are reports of game fixing.
Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.
As far as I know, NFL type sports betting is not the only type of sports game that is used as a sacrifice or negative business by many companies to make big money for them or the sports betting mafia.America, England, Australia and many other countries, it is known that from ancient times the people there have implemented sports betting as a tradition that is often at stake, do not be surprised if in the betting process many negative things happen, for this reason, it's not surprising that we often see sports betting such as: Rugby, WWE, cricket, Boxing, UFC, Golf and many others, being found to violate some of the rules and policies that have been determined in gambling
Companies and mobsters who bet on sports betting as I mentioned, that they know there are billions of dollars to be made, are clearly violating, fraudulent effective ways to reach those billions of dollars. gambling used to legalize all means, negative action is a powerful way to take the coffers of $, for those who want to do it.
This is very bad, NFL seems to be a big league for Americans and this kind dirty activity happen.
But it's nothing new anymore there's a fixed match in sports, it's either the player, team, or even organizations behind this matter. Sadly, he's one of many players which get busted, there's should be an another player or team still involved in fixed match and not get caught until now.
But it's nothing new anymore there's a fixed match in sports, it's either the player, team, or even organizations behind this matter. Sadly, he's one of many players which get busted, there's should be an another player or team still involved in fixed match and not get caught until now.
But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence.
You may not think about it, but it is certainly a fact that no sport can avoid. For big matches, this is even more serious. You may think that the big matches will be fairer, but that is not necessarily true, if the betting size is large enough, the bookies can completely have enough money to manipulate it, even for sports betting e-sports. Also, we can see a few conspiracy theories about the underground forces that control everything, you may not believe it, but who knows, this world is inherently operating under the control of the forces?
As others have already written, it is nothing new for athletes to turn to the "dark side", whether it is individual sports or team sports. This is especially pronounced in the lower leagues, where the players' incomes are lower, but even top sports are not immune to it, because some who earn a real fortune want even more and then accept bribes to influence the game.
Sometimes it's not just about money, but these people are blackmailed in such a way that they are threatened with revealing some secrets, or their family members are threatened. Sport has become a big business for a long time, and criminals want their share of the pie - that's why I think the laws should be much stricter, because punishing someone with not playing a few matches is not something that will discourage others from doing the same.
Sometimes it's not just about money, but these people are blackmailed in such a way that they are threatened with revealing some secrets, or their family members are threatened. Sport has become a big business for a long time, and criminals want their share of the pie - that's why I think the laws should be much stricter, because punishing someone with not playing a few matches is not something that will discourage others from doing the same.
Every sport is affected.Soccer even more and let me tell you a funny story of a fixed game here in the country where I reside,there was a team who needed to win the Championship here (now they have been banned 10 years from all competitions,international ones I mean) and that team came in the game against one team that needed critically the points to be safe from relegation.In this team that relegated only a few players were playing at maximum power and most of the players already knew or they were told by the team president to let this game and relegate,so those players were funny as they tried hard but they didn't know anything about the upper level management and this is a joke we fans keep telling from now and then every time our team loses a game.
Since gambling started in 1998 I have said several other times the number of surprise results in a league has increased in a really enormous way.
I used to be an athlete before, i knew there is another side and it's not a good story. At that time they offered me some money if I lost the game.Since gambling started in 1998 I have said several other times the number of surprise results in a league has increased in a really enormous way.
so i give up on purpose and i choose money over fame.
So till today this person is working free how can someone who did something like this work for you without facing the law or any punishment this is not fair this is why I have different set of feelings about gambling platforms you can never know if they are cheating or not and for the fact that gambling can be easily rigged by influencers or bad actors is why I dont always feel ease gambling with so much money
The best way to gamble safely is by using the exact amount of money that you are willing to lose for the time being and do not try to gamble again thinking that you will win because it is always the house that benefits not the gamblers.
imagine this type of situation that op is talking about, I am sure that some people must have used a big amount of money to place the bet and they will be shocked afterward if they know what really happen, some people can go any lent to win a game illegally all in the name of money.
The best way to gamble safely is by using the exact amount of money that you are willing to lose for the time being and do not try to gamble again thinking that you will win because it is always the house that benefits not the gamblers.
imagine this type of situation that op is talking about, I am sure that some people must have used a big amount of money to place the bet and they will be shocked afterward if they know what really happen, some people can go any lent to win a game illegally all in the name of money.
It's definitely not just an issue in the NFL. Match-fixing scandals have rocked the soccer world in recent years, and it's a huge problem in many other sports too. The problem is that the money involved in professional sports is huge, and some people will do whatever it takes to make a buck. When players, coaches, or referees are involved in betting, it can easily lead to biased decisions and even outright cheating. And if the public loses faith in the fairness of the game, it can have serious consequences for the sport's reputation. It's hard to say how prevalent this problem is in the professional sports, but it certainly seems like there are more stories about match-fixing than there used to be.
The same thing should be applied for the other sports, it's not just the NFL. The reason why we're not hearing much about the others is because they're good at enforcing their rules or no one is getting caught doing it. I'm surprised that the article mentioned he wasn't punished because of what he did but specifically about where he did it. The place shouldn't matter when it's going to harm the NFL as a whole knowing there are other players than him possibly betting on their team and players.
Every sport is affected.Soccer even more and let me tell you a funny story of a fixed game here in the country where I reside,there was a team who needed to win the Championship here (now they have been banned 10 years from all competitions,international ones I mean) and that team came in the game against one team that needed critically the points to be safe from relegation.In this team that relegated only a few players were playing at maximum power and most of the players already knew or they were told by the team president to let this game and relegate,so those players were funny as they tried hard but they didn't know anything about the upper level management and this is a joke we fans keep telling from now and then every time our team loses a game.
Since gambling started in 1998 I have said several other times the number of surprise results in a league has increased in a really enormous way.
Since gambling started in 1998 I have said several other times the number of surprise results in a league has increased in a really enormous way.
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Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.
This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.
1. https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/23501236/supreme-court-strikes-federal-law-prohibiting-sports-gambling
2. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10073237-lions-jameson-williams-among-nfl-players-suspended-for-violating-gambling-policy.amp.html
Sports betting could negatively impact sports contests? Who would've thought of that earlier? I could never see this coming.
I guess that you've never heard of rigged/fixed soccer games(replace soccer with any other popular sport).
My opinions is that sports betting slowly ruins almost all sports. In my country's soccer league all teams have sports betting companies as the main sponsors. This is quite suspicious, especially when certain games end with a weird result.
I don't know anything about the "Jameson Williams" court case and I don't care about American football, but I know that money and greed could ruin every sport.
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It is against the rule of most popular sports for the players to bet on games especially if it's in their specialty. In this case, American Football. Some bet on college games and others made a bet for the sport they are playing which violates their contract.
Regarding the question if this applies to other sports, yes and no.
In small leagues or local leagues, I don't think they have a contract clause about betting for the team. But when it comes to national leagues, I am sure it is added to their contract to prevent point shaving or other illegal things a quarterback will do or a team themselves.
Boxing, UFC, and other contact sports also have the same regulation about players and fighters betting for themselves or their opponents.
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Rapoport noted Williams and Berryhill's suspensions stemmed from betting on college games while they were at the Lions' team facilities; Moore, Cephus and Toney are believed to have bet on NFL games.
It is against the rule of most popular sports for the players to bet on games especially if it's in their specialty. In this case, American Football. Some bet on college games and others made a bet for the sport they are playing which violates their contract.
Regarding the question if this applies to other sports, yes and no.
In small leagues or local leagues, I don't think they have a contract clause about betting for the team. But when it comes to national leagues, I am sure it is added to their contract to prevent point shaving or other illegal things a quarterback will do or a team themselves.
Boxing, UFC, and other contact sports also have the same regulation about players and fighters betting for themselves or their opponents.
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