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Topic: Another side of Sports betting you may not know about - page 5. (Read 830 times)

legendary
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This is why athletes, players, and team members aren't allowed to make bets on the sports that they are a part of themselves. It removes the integrity on the sport because they're making it look like they're profiting off of each other and the incentive isn't to get better at the game or entertain people but rather just for the monetary gains. It also removes the people's trust on the league that the sport belongs to, which will reduce viewership and will surely affect the league in a lot of ways = may affect the gambling aspect of the sport as well.
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Fixing the game or cheating in your own team against least favourite for big chunk of money isn't new and many athletes lost their sports career after they found guilty of doing such immoral activities. But for someone who bet few dollars won't take it that much but there also players who bet in millions will take it seriously and turn their life upside down so never trust anything because nothing is 100% perfect.
^ That is a serious offense that can have severe consequences for athletes and their careers. It is not just the large sums of money involved, but also the integrity of the sport itself that is at stake. Even for those who may only bet a few dollars, it is important to remember that every action has consequences, and there's always a risk of getting caught and facing serious penalties. We should always strive for honesty and fair play in all aspects of our lives, both on and off the field.
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This has long gone happened on the esports side. The integrity of some players has been wasted and gone when they've been caught betting particularly with their matches.
It's gonna cause them to either sell their game or not perform well because they've got a bet on their opponent's team for those matches. Until now, in some lower leagues and even some with close to the top tier online leagues, this does happen specifically on Dota 2. I know that there's no exemption on this one because we're aware that probably this is also being done in other sports. There's always been the dark side of gambling for these sports.
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Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

Any time bet rigging is found the consequences should be very severe (and often are) because it is such a devious way to defraud, but also very hard to gather evidence on. We only hear about the successful prosecutions, sometimes based on atrocious or completely unexpected playing patterns, but there will have been plenty of bet rigging involving sport participants that has gone undetected in the past. It can make all parties quite rich if done very subtly and often only betting companies see the major red flags but might still not have enough proof to escalate.

this kind of cheating can be found in almost all sports, however, as you said, most were undetected and people already moved on. i think this kind of act won't be totally eliminated as there are athletes that you can still bribe with tons of money or promoters accepting huge sum of money. we can't totally eradicate this practice. and for sure, there are a lot of these athletes who are also in sportsbetting. maybe betting not using their names but someone outside so as not to create red flags.
legendary
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I think this sounds pretty normal. (I mean suspension of players who bet on their own games). They are part of that competition so they shouldn't be allowed to gamble in that tournament. Not only their matches even. There were claims of match-fixing in our local football league years ago. When players start to speak about it you see that how dirty it can become. For nfl I don't think its that much different.  Players probably benefit financially from gambling on. Its something shouldn't happen.
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Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

Any time bet rigging is found the consequences should be very severe (and often are) because it is such a devious way to defraud, but also very hard to gather evidence on. We only hear about the successful prosecutions, sometimes based on atrocious or completely unexpected playing patterns, but there will have been plenty of bet rigging involving sport participants that has gone undetected in the past. It can make all parties quite rich if done very subtly and often only betting companies see the major red flags but might still not have enough proof to escalate.
This happens because many sport associations hide the majority of those cases as they do not want to gain a negative reputation, even when there is evidence which can be inferred from the results of the matches nothing is done, and example of this happens at Sumo, in that sport there are tournaments in which each fighter needs to fight 15 times, once each day, and if they have a winning record then they can escalate the rankings and earn more money, this means they need 8 victories to go up in the rankings or at least to remain where they are, and there is conclusive evidence the majority of the Sumo fighters cheat when one of them has already reached the 8 victories they need while they fight an opponent with 7 victories and defeats during the last match of the tournament, basically they let the fighter that needs that 8 victory win and then during the next tournament they get that win back, has something ever be done about this even when it is clear the majority of the Sumo fighters cheat? Not that I am aware.
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Fixing the game or cheating in your own team against least favourite for big chunk of money isn't new and many athletes lost their sports career after they found guilty of doing such immoral activities. But for someone who bet few dollars won't take it that much but there also players who bet in millions will take it seriously and turn their life upside down so never trust anything because nothing is 100% perfect.
legendary
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Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

Any time bet rigging is found the consequences should be very severe (and often are) because it is such a devious way to defraud, but also very hard to gather evidence on. We only hear about the successful prosecutions, sometimes based on atrocious or completely unexpected playing patterns, but there will have been plenty of bet rigging involving sport participants that has gone undetected in the past. It can make all parties quite rich if done very subtly and often only betting companies see the major red flags but might still not have enough proof to escalate.
legendary
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Is it about sports betting or people who tried to abuse sports betting and make a fortune by fixing games? Are they the first or the last? They are not, this is just on a higher level. I guess that the amount of money involved represents the level... When people are ready to abuse a few dollar bonuses we can imagine what some people are ready to do for some very high amounts.

Nothing new in this crazy world! Smiley
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I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence.

Sports betting may affect the game negatively only if the player has also made bets on the game he is playing in and that's already forbidden. What if the player's distant relative made the bet though? That would complicate things. Stuff like that indeed happens and the public would indeed lose their confidence in the games because of those incidents.

Let's say I am the goalkeeper of Team A. In the last minute right before the game, my brother told me that he wagered on the Team B's win against my team. That might affect me in a negative way. It shouldn't normally but we are humans... When people learn about that story, they will question my professionalism righteously.
I think the International Sports Federation knows about that. As long as the price to win the game exceeds the risk&bet amount, there would be no point in worrying.
Everyone has their own number. if that is a big game, the players know it will cost their own carrier
legendary
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I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence.

Sports betting may affect the game negatively only if the player has also made bets on the game he is playing in and that's already forbidden. What if the player's distant relative made the bet though? That would complicate things. Stuff like that indeed happens and the public would indeed lose their confidence in the games because of those incidents.

Let's say I am the goalkeeper of Team A. In the last minute right before the game, my brother told me that he wagered on the Team B's win against my team. That might affect me in a negative way. It shouldn't normally but we are humans... When people learn about that story, they will question my professionalism righteously.
legendary
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This is the first time I'm hearing about something like that, I've never known that there are gambling policies that a player or a team needs to follow in a game of sport and if they violate them, they are suspended. However, I don't understand why this has anything to do with sports betting and how it is evil in the scene.

If there are policies that need to be followed, make the players or teams follow them, and if they fail, it's their fault and not the fault of sports betting. Everything in the world has a positive and a negative side, you can just shut down or close everything that exists.
I guess it has something to do with public perception and integrity, and it will convert to public support and eventually profit for all stakes holders, the last thing sports organizations want is to get involved or even get a buzz about game fixing so the rules may be harsh for any players but they have to follow these rules however rubbish it may seem.
Players have conduct and ethic to follow so whether they like it or not they have to do this, maybe when they are out of the sports they can bet all they want.
Correct, the sport entertainment industry is huge all around the world, however if the fans begin to question the integrity of the participants and they believe match fixing is taking place then this will take away a great deal of the legitimacy of the league or sport in question, as then there is no point for the fans to watch the matches as the winner has been decided already, I remember that during the 2012 Olympic games 8 players were disqualified at Badminton for losing games on purpose as this would give them access to an easier path to the final, and while what they did made sense for them, this was still a huge scandal as this is not what the spirit of any sport is about.
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In fact, betting behind a sporting event is something that has happened since ancient times and many people understand this. In fact, many people in the sports industry are also part of a group of bettors so that by betting on a sports match will not affect anything including public trust.
Whether this is only for the NFL or not, I don't know, but for sports like football and others, betting is a natural thing, and many gambling sites even sponsor and partner with them.
To be honest, I myself do not agree with this policy.
we are talking about cheating. it reminds me of Luna and the true story behind it. what if someone in the top rank wanted that to happen?


This is not only happening on NFL but rather on other big sports but we can see it on minimal situation since we are now on digital days and everything can expose easily.
Thats true. It's very hard to cheat a big sport and it depends on the manager too.
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But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence.


It can somehow affect the integrity of the game since by having that we can possibly see a game fixing which is happening on other league. And it affect the public confidence especially when they see it happening since they would provably think that the game is cook already and there's someone fixing the game for the benefit of big bettor. But most of the time we can only see this happening on minor leagues only since on leagues there are to many eyes watching them and cameras are all over the place so its hard for them to execute this cheating.

Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted?


This is not only happening on NFL but rather on other big sports but we can see it on minimal situation since we are now on digital days and everything can expose easily.
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This is the first time I'm hearing about something like that, I've never known that there are gambling policies that a player or a team needs to follow in a game of sport and if they violate them, they are suspended. However, I don't understand why this has anything to do with sports betting and how it is evil in the scene.

If there are policies that need to be followed, make the players or teams follow them, and if they fail, it's their fault and not the fault of sports betting. Everything in the world has a positive and a negative side, you can just shut down or close everything that exists.
I guess it has something to do with public perception and integrity, and it will convert to public support and eventually profit for all stakes holders, the last thing sports organizations want is to get involved or even get a buzz about game fixing so the rules may be harsh for any players but they have to follow these rules however rubbish it may seem.
Players have conduct and ethic to follow so whether they like it or not they have to do this, maybe when they are out of the sports they can bet all they want.
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In fact, betting behind a sporting event is something that has happened since ancient times and many people understand this. In fact, many people in the sports industry are also part of a group of bettors so that by betting on a sports match will not affect anything including public trust.
Whether this is only for the NFL or not, I don't know, but for sports like football and others, betting is a natural thing, and many gambling sites even sponsor and partner with them.
To be honest, I myself do not agree with this policy.
legendary
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The honesty of competitions? Essential. Credibility with the general populace? Crucial. The example of Jameson Williams demonstrates how sports betting may rock that confidence. Let's take a step back, though. Putting all the blame on gambling on sports? Unfair. Bets have been placed for centuries. Sportsbooks, as well as office pools and fantasy leagues, have become commonplace.

Where did we go wrong? As of late, people seem to be really worried about the negative aspects of gambling. One possible explanation is the media's focus on high-profile instances, such as Jameson's. There is no denying the fact that sports betting is here to stay. What's the catch? The excitement of betting while maintaining the credibility of sports. Come on, then!
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This is the first time I'm hearing about something like that, I've never known that there are gambling policies that a player or a team needs to follow in a game of sport and if they violate them, they are suspended. However, I don't understand why this has anything to do with sports betting and how it is evil in the scene.

If there are policies that need to be followed, make the players or teams follow them, and if they fail, it's their fault and not the fault of sports betting. Everything in the world has a positive and a negative side, you can just shut down or close everything that exists.
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I think other sports and soccer are not innocent of these. In soccer for instance, a particular player may be paid to commit a certain foul  that will make his team loose just because of money or the player him self placed a bet and by doing so it becomes a kind of fixed game just like the WWE game which the winner is already known befor the start of the game.
When the NFL's bet on a particular game, it drastically affects the player's performances know that they placed a bet on the game. Most sports game are been compromised because of money. I think is quit unfair to some other gamblers.
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I would not want to watch a rigged game. I remember a few years back there where a bunch on scandals in the german bundesliga, where a referee was working together with a bookie.
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