ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread - page 87.

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Quote from: dogie on November 12, 2014, 06:49:02 AM

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Quote from: cloh76 on November 11, 2014, 01:52:20 PM

Does it come with the coolant as well? If not you might want to correct the page since it says it's included. Is the cooling kit still manufactured by syscooling or is it a different manufacturer?

I think collant is seperate. Dogie found a good price - each one should be enough for one miner and then some (depends on how you cut cords). I had to get more thanks to syscooling.

On them I hope it's improved if they stay with them. RMA process is VERY VERY hard if more then one goes out.

I have ordered a few different things to try out to work better then straight syscooling gear i should know end of the week if I was able to make some upgrades to cooling quality.

I used 750ml on my build, per miner. I'm sure it doesn't include coolant still but I'm checking.

Confirmed no cooling as expected.

Thanks, that's what I figured.

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Quote from: dsheaffer on November 11, 2014, 06:40:38 PM

So...the all in cost for the C1, cooling system and shipping (but before ~$150 PSU cost) is $500...I'm struggling to justify this.

Was priced @ the higher expected btc rate, it makes sense now.

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Quote from: dogie on November 11, 2014, 03:49:21 PM

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Quote from: cloh76 on November 11, 2014, 01:52:20 PM

Does it come with the coolant as well? If not you might want to correct the page since it says it's included. Is the cooling kit still manufactured by syscooling or is it a different manufacturer?

I think collant is seperate. Dogie found a good price - each one should be enough for one miner and then some (depends on how you cut cords). I had to get more thanks to syscooling.

On them I hope it's improved if they stay with them. RMA process is VERY VERY hard if more then one goes out.

I have ordered a few different things to try out to work better then straight syscooling gear i should know end of the week if I was able to make some upgrades to cooling quality.

I used 750ml on my build, per miner. I'm sure it doesn't include coolant still but I'm checking.

Confirmed no coolant as expected.

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Quote from: grn on November 11, 2014, 11:10:59 PM

Quote from: dsheaffer on November 11, 2014, 09:24:42 PM

Quote from: grn on November 11, 2014, 09:01:59 PM

Quote from: Prelude on November 11, 2014, 08:58:53 PM

Guys, I'm having a private debate with someone about heating a room with miners. The argument is that a 1000w water cooled miner won't heat a room as much as a 1000w air cooled miner would.

1000w input = 1000w of heat no matter how it's cooled. Correct?

The 1000w has to go somewhere energy can not be created or destroyed only transformed. You are correct.

Not sure I agree. Energy cannot be created or destroyed = true .But my argument is that the 1000w of electricity does NOT have to all be converted to 1000W of heat. In fact, it CAN'T all be converted to heat or no other "work" could be done by the miner....so the more efficient the cooling, the less of the 1000W is needed for cooling = the more electricity available to get converted to "work". Assuming that the watercooled miner is more efficient at cooling than an air cooled miner, it is a "worse" room heater. Make sense?

You are missing a key part of the equation. the "work" is how the electrical energy is transformed to heat. Check Klondike bar's comments too

Even the sound and light will likely make its way back to heat.

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Quote from: dsheaffer on November 11, 2014, 09:24:42 PM

Quote from: grn on November 11, 2014, 09:01:59 PM

Quote from: Prelude on November 11, 2014, 08:58:53 PM

Guys, I'm having a private debate with someone about heating a room with miners. The argument is that a 1000w water cooled miner won't heat a room as much as a 1000w air cooled miner would.

1000w input = 1000w of heat no matter how it's cooled. Correct?

The 1000w has to go somewhere energy can not be created or destroyed only transformed. You are correct.

Not sure I agree. Energy cannot be created or destroyed = true .But my argument is that the 1000w of electricity does NOT have to all be converted to 1000W of heat. In fact, it CAN'T all be converted to heat or no other "work" could be done by the miner....so the more efficient the cooling, the less of the 1000W is needed for cooling = the more electricity available to get converted to "work". Assuming that the watercooled miner is more efficient at cooling than an air cooled miner, it is a "worse" room heater. Make sense?

You are missing a key part of the equation. the "work" is how the electrical energy is transformed to heat. Check Klondike bar's comments too

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Has anyone received a positive response for replacement pump from SysCooling.

My pump gave up too so C1 is sitting powered off.
I am at the moment afraid to buy another C1 even if it comes with cooling kit.

Here is my take on C1
1. More easily stackable (+) (as seen in the pictures in this forum)
2. Energy Efficiency (+) but same as S3
3 Shipping cost (-) ( too high USD99)
4. Point of failures (-) ( pump, radiator clogging etc.) more than S3

I somehow still like it more than S3, don't know why.

How does everyone else feel about C1 (positive or negative).

I am going to wait for my first one to be operational again before I buy another one.
Or
I will go back and read Mr. Tupsu's comment and link for books for dummies and convince myself that C1 is not meant for novice like me.

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Deleted some messages at syscooling. Have talked to them on Skype and through email now. They said they are making it right and sending 2nd pump. With 2 pumps I will be back up and running. I will update everyone I should have a tracking number today in China or Tomorrow in US depending on where you live

.

So all is looking good right now.

*update they said tomorrow it will ship

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Quote from: dsheaffer on November 11, 2014, 09:24:42 PM

Quote from: grn on November 11, 2014, 09:01:59 PM

Quote from: Prelude on November 11, 2014, 08:58:53 PM

Guys, I'm having a private debate with someone about heating a room with miners. The argument is that a 1000w water cooled miner won't heat a room as much as a 1000w air cooled miner would.

1000w input = 1000w of heat no matter how it's cooled. Correct?

The 1000w has to go somewhere energy can not be created or destroyed only transformed. You are correct.

Not sure I agree. Energy cannot be created or destroyed = true .But my argument is that the 1000w of electricity does NOT have to all be converted to 1000W of heat. In fact, it CAN'T all be converted to heat or no other "work" could be done by the miner....so the more efficient the cooling, the less of the 1000W is needed for cooling = the more electricity available to get converted to "work". Assuming that the watercooled miner is more efficient at cooling than an air cooled miner, it is a "worse" room heater. Make sense?

work is energy. 98.5% of the power used by the miner is emitted as heat, ~1.5% is emitted as light or sound, and ~0.05% is electrical signals carrying data back to the internet.

the only difference is that air cooling may more effectively transmit heat to the opposite end of the room whereas the radiator may have a hot pocket of air around it if the fans arnt as powerful

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Quote from: grn on November 11, 2014, 09:01:59 PM

Quote from: Prelude on November 11, 2014, 08:58:53 PM

Guys, I'm having a private debate with someone about heating a room with miners. The argument is that a 1000w water cooled miner won't heat a room as much as a 1000w air cooled miner would.

1000w input = 1000w of heat no matter how it's cooled. Correct?

The 1000w has to go somewhere energy can not be created or destroyed only transformed. You are correct.

Not sure I agree. Energy cannot be created or destroyed = true .But my argument is that the 1000w of electricity does NOT have to all be converted to 1000W of heat. In fact, it CAN'T all be converted to heat or no other "work" could be done by the miner....so the more efficient the cooling, the less of the 1000W is needed for cooling = the more electricity available to get converted to "work". Assuming that the watercooled miner is more efficient at cooling than an air cooled miner, it is a "worse" room heater. Make sense?

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Quote from: Prelude on November 11, 2014, 08:58:53 PM

Guys, I'm having a private debate with someone about heating a room with miners. The argument is that a 1000w water cooled miner won't heat a room as much as a 1000w air cooled miner would.

1000w input = 1000w of heat no matter how it's cooled. Correct?

The 1000w has to go somewhere energy can not be created or destroyed only transformed. You are correct.

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Quote from: Prelude on November 11, 2014, 07:05:15 PM

Quote from: cloh76 on November 11, 2014, 01:52:20 PM

Quote from: BITMAIN on November 11, 2014, 07:03:15 AM

C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included

Does it come with the coolant as well? If not you might want to correct the page since it says it's included. Is the cooling kit still manufactured by syscooling or is it a different manufacturer?

Yes, this really needs to be clarified.

I think it is a comment about coolant not that it is included "* Coolant: If you choose an aluminum radiator, you can use deionized water with an additive, or specialist coolant. If you buy a copper radiator, you must only use specialist coolant."

Basically saying don't use just regular water. Use coolant.

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Guys, I'm having a private debate with someone about heating a room with miners. The argument is that a 1000w water cooled miner won't heat a room as much as a 1000w air cooled miner would.

1000w input = 1000w of heat no matter how it's cooled. Correct?

I know I'm right, but this could settle the debate. LOL.

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Quote from: cloh76 on November 11, 2014, 01:52:20 PM

Quote from: BITMAIN on November 11, 2014, 07:03:15 AM

C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included

Does it come with the coolant as well? If not you might want to correct the page since it says it's included. Is the cooling kit still manufactured by syscooling or is it a different manufacturer?

Yes, this really needs to be clarified.

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So...the all in cost for the C1, cooling system and shipping (but before ~$150 PSU cost) is $500...I'm struggling to justify this.

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Quote from: cloh76 on November 11, 2014, 01:52:20 PM

Does it come with the coolant as well? If not you might want to correct the page since it says it's included. Is the cooling kit still manufactured by syscooling or is it a different manufacturer?

I think collant is seperate. Dogie found a good price - each one should be enough for one miner and then some (depends on how you cut cords). I had to get more thanks to syscooling.

On them I hope it's improved if they stay with them. RMA process is VERY VERY hard if more then one goes out.

I have ordered a few different things to try out to work better then straight syscooling gear i should know end of the week if I was able to make some upgrades to cooling quality.

I used 750ml on my build, per miner. I'm sure it doesn't include coolant still but I'm checking.

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Quote from: BITMAIN on November 11, 2014, 07:03:15 AM

C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included

Does it come with the coolant as well? If not you might want to correct the page since it says it's included. Is the cooling kit still manufactured by syscooling or is it a different manufacturer?

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Dogie is there any way you can help with a RMA request with syscooling?

Nothing I can do unfortunately, I have the same contact info.

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Quote from: BITMAIN on November 11, 2014, 07:03:15 AM

C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included

Son of a!!!

I just bought 4 more S3+'s, I didn't realize the new batch of C1s was open with the cooling kits. Sad

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Quote from: BITMAIN on November 11, 2014, 07:03:15 AM

C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included

Nice !

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C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included

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