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legendary
Activity: 1098
Merit: 1000
S2:    $2359, 1000GH = $2.36 per GH   $2359,-400kupon=$1959

SP10: $2795, 1400GH = $2.00 per GH  $2795   $2,695.00 + shipping for $193.00.=$2,888.00

S2: =$1.96 per GH
SP-10 =$2.06 per GH


I did it without discounts to make it an even playing field (though I did forget shipping sorry, last one I bought had free shipping). There are very few vouchers available for the S2 and it's possible to get a discount on the SP10, but ok lets work it out that way with disounts/vouchers

S2:  $1959, 1000GH, $1.95 per GH
SP10: $2620, 1400GH, $1.87 Per GH

Lower w/GH also increases the lifespan of the product.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1003

Curious how you both think the S2 is a better deal

Price
S2:    $2359, 1000GH = $2.36 per GH
SP10: $2795, 1400GH = $2.00 per GH

Power
S2:    1000 GH, 1000W = 1w/GH
SP10: 1400 GH, 1200W = 0.85w/GH

PS Both are beaten on price by the A1 clones, which can be had for around $1800, or $1.80 per GH (if only all the dealers weren't sketchy)

S2:    $2359, 1000GH = $2.36 per GH   $2359,-400kupon=$1959

SP10: $2795, 1400GH = $2.00 per GH  $2795   $2,695.00 + shipping for $193.00.=$2,888.00

S2: =$1.96 per GH
SP-10 =$2.06 per GH
hero member
Activity: 741
Merit: 514
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Wierd problem with my S2:

slot#1 does not hash (ever!-no green light blinking)

moving boards around did not help
using a brand new powerboard did not help
even connecting fans to a neighboring set of pins did not help (one set is free in my miner)
reconnecting beaglebone, ethernet cable did not help
making sure that all PCIE connectors are tight did not help
reimaging the microSD card did not work
connecting new power supply with all-new PCIE cables did not help

the only thing not done yet is updating the firmware (which is already current, dated 4/10/14).

Any suggestions? this is a crazy problem to have, and it wasn't fixed by a new powerboard as I hoped. i am out of ideas.
The other 9 boards/blades are hashing

Any suggestions?

Hi Biodom,
We are so sorry to hear the trouble, please send your order ID to [email protected] to double check your shipping address, we will provide you a retunring address and send you new hash board soon.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
Wierd problem with my S2:

slot#1 does not hash (ever!-no green light blinking)

moving boards around did not help
using a brand new powerboard did not help
even connecting fans to a neighboring set of pins did not help (one set is free in my miner)
reconnecting beaglebone, ethernet cable did not help
making sure that all PCIE connectors are tight did not help
reimaging the microSD card did not work
connecting new power supply with all-new PCIE cables did not help

the only thing not done yet is updating the firmware (which is already current, dated 4/10/14).

Any suggestions? this is a crazy problem to have, and it wasn't fixed by a new powerboard as I hoped. i am out of ideas.
The other 9 boards/blades are hashing

Any suggestions?
member
Activity: 97
Merit: 10
Money can't buy happiness but it can buy assassins
PM me if you have a valid S2 coupon code. Same nick @ bitmaintech.com


For a sec it looked like you [email protected]  was gonna give away some coupons.  lol

If you have one, I'd be more than happy to take it off your hands for some BTC
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1014
ex uno plures
It could be that you may be able to overclock the S2 with a better power supply, but from the people who I have seen try it you only get a measly 10% increase and at the risk of much higher HW errors. These aren't Jupiters that you can push to 50-60% overclocks, the entire design ethos around the S2 is different, these are basically underclocked S1 antminers crammed into a single box. I think the backplanes and power components on the boards just aren't built to handle more power higher currents.

I'll second this observation. Seems like the limiting factor is the number of VRMs per asic chip on the boards, not the backplanes or other components. I tried it at 225 mhs with an evga 1300 and ran into high H/W errors.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1014
ex uno plures

When people say that the rig is pulling 1050 they mean using their watt-o-meter, all the slightly lower efficiency means is that it pulls a few Watts more from the wall.

1050 watts at the wall in the case of the PSU on the S2 would mean its probably providing 916W to the miner (87.3% efficient) in fact in order to provide 1000W to the miner it would be pulling 1154W from the wall  Shocked

My kill-a-watt reports just on ~ 9 amps on a US 120v circuit for the S2, when cranking ….
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1014
ex uno plures
The SP10 is such a crappy deal compared to the Antminer S2

Yep, their reluctance (or greed) to reduce the price while everyone was pissed off with BM has cost them greatly. What's better, sell 1 miner for $500 profit or 10 miners for $200 profit... spondoolies definitlely missed the boat here...

Curious how you both think the S2 is a better deal

Price
S2:    $2359, 1000GH = $2.36 per GH
SP10: $2795, 1400GH = $2.00 per GH

Power
S2:    1000 GH, 1000W = 1w/GH
SP10: 1400 GH, 1200W = 0.85w/GH

PS Both are beaten on price by the A1 clones, which can be had for around $1800, or $1.80 per GH (if only all the dealers weren't sketchy)
Does the Spondoolies price include shipping?

I also heard that the 1.4TH/s is very dependent on your power setup, but I haven't checked in to the accuracy of this claim.

its close to $200 to ship the SP10, and realistic values are closer to 1.25TH on 120V and 1.4TH on 208/240V. It is also the volume of a blow dryer when running. The design itself and the efficiency is terrific on it though Smiley   DC usage with 208V is ideal

Don't happen to have a voucher the deal gets better.

$400 voucher and/or bitmain will work with you. You could cook breakfast on the SP10 and it howls like a banshee … definitely begs for a DC home which is an additional expense.
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
Looking to buy 3 S2 units and 3 S1 units.

PM me if you have coupons.

Thanks

Rob Cool
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 1003
PM me if you have a valid S2 coupon code. Same nick @ bitmaintech.com


For a sec it looked like you [email protected]  was gonna give away some coupons.  lol
member
Activity: 97
Merit: 10
Money can't buy happiness but it can buy assassins
PM me if you have a valid S2 coupon code. Same nick @ on bitmaintech.com

[edited to deter confusion]

hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 1003
Not many indeed because there were not alot of buyers for the latest s2, and those that have them are waiting to see if there is a dramatic price drop this week or next.  So their coupons might be in addition to another 200-300
donator
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1001
The SP10 is such a crappy deal compared to the Antminer S2

Yep, their reluctance (or greed) to reduce the price while everyone was pissed off with BM has cost them greatly. What's better, sell 1 miner for $500 profit or 10 miners for $200 profit... spondoolies definitlely missed the boat here...

Curious how you both think the S2 is a better deal

Price
S2:    $2359, 1000GH = $2.36 per GH
SP10: $2795, 1400GH = $2.00 per GH

Power
S2:    1000 GH, 1000W = 1w/GH
SP10: 1400 GH, 1200W = 0.85w/GH

PS Both are beaten on price by the A1 clones, which can be had for around $1800, or $1.80 per GH (if only all the dealers weren't sketchy)

S2 has lots of coupon on the wild, makes it a much better deal.
hero member
Activity: 818
Merit: 508
The SP10 is such a crappy deal compared to the Antminer S2

Yep, their reluctance (or greed) to reduce the price while everyone was pissed off with BM has cost them greatly. What's better, sell 1 miner for $500 profit or 10 miners for $200 profit... spondoolies definitlely missed the boat here...

Curious how you both think the S2 is a better deal

Price
S2:    $2359, 1000GH = $2.36 per GH
SP10: $2795, 1400GH = $2.00 per GH

Power
S2:    1000 GH, 1000W = 1w/GH
SP10: 1400 GH, 1200W = 0.85w/GH

PS Both are beaten on price by the A1 clones, which can be had for around $1800, or $1.80 per GH (if only all the dealers weren't sketchy)
Does the Spondoolies price include shipping?

I also heard that the 1.4TH/s is very dependent on your power setup, but I haven't checked in to the accuracy of this claim.

its close to $200 to ship the SP10, and realistic values are closer to 1.25TH on 120V and 1.4TH on 208/240V. It is also the volume of a blow dryer when running. The design itself and the efficiency is terrific on it though Smiley   DC usage with 208V is ideal

Don't happen to have a voucher the deal gets better.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
The SP10 is such a crappy deal compared to the Antminer S2

Yep, their reluctance (or greed) to reduce the price while everyone was pissed off with BM has cost them greatly. What's better, sell 1 miner for $500 profit or 10 miners for $200 profit... spondoolies definitlely missed the boat here...

Curious how you both think the S2 is a better deal

Price
S2:    $2359, 1000GH = $2.36 per GH
SP10: $2795, 1400GH = $2.00 per GH

Power
S2:    1000 GH, 1000W = 1w/GH
SP10: 1400 GH, 1200W = 0.85w/GH

PS Both are beaten on price by the A1 clones, which can be had for around $1800, or $1.80 per GH (if only all the dealers weren't sketchy)
Does the Spondoolies price include shipping?

I also heard that the 1.4TH/s is very dependent on your power setup, but I haven't checked in to the accuracy of this claim.

its close to $200 to ship the SP10, and realistic values are closer to 1.25TH on 120V and 1.4TH on 208/240V. It is also the volume of a blow dryer when running. The design itself and the efficiency is terrific on it though Smiley   DC usage with 208V is ideal
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 1003
The SP10 is such a crappy deal compared to the Antminer S2

Yep, their reluctance (or greed) to reduce the price while everyone was pissed off with BM has cost them greatly. What's better, sell 1 miner for $500 profit or 10 miners for $200 profit... spondoolies definitlely missed the boat here...

Curious how you both think the S2 is a better deal

Price
S2:    $2359, 1000GH = $2.36 per GH
SP10: $2795, 1400GH = $2.00 per GH

Power
S2:    1000 GH, 1000W = 1w/GH
SP10: 1400 GH, 1200W = 0.85w/GH

PS Both are beaten on price by the A1 clones, which can be had for around $1800, or $1.80 per GH (if only all the dealers weren't sketchy)
Does the Spondoolies price include shipping?

I also heard that the 1.4TH/s is very dependent on your power setup, but I haven't checked in to the accuracy of this claim.

no include shipping last I heard
sr. member
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Buy, sell and store real cryptocurrencies
The SP10 is such a crappy deal compared to the Antminer S2

Yep, their reluctance (or greed) to reduce the price while everyone was pissed off with BM has cost them greatly. What's better, sell 1 miner for $500 profit or 10 miners for $200 profit... spondoolies definitlely missed the boat here...

Curious how you both think the S2 is a better deal

Price
S2:    $2359, 1000GH = $2.36 per GH
SP10: $2795, 1400GH = $2.00 per GH

Power
S2:    1000 GH, 1000W = 1w/GH
SP10: 1400 GH, 1200W = 0.85w/GH

PS Both are beaten on price by the A1 clones, which can be had for around $1800, or $1.80 per GH (if only all the dealers weren't sketchy)
Does the Spondoolies price include shipping?

I also heard that the 1.4TH/s is very dependent on your power setup, but I haven't checked in to the accuracy of this claim.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 1003
Because of advertising they want the highest rating to advertise.

That 4% makes a big difference especially if the psu is rated at 1000 watts and the mining rig pulls 1050 or more.  I don't have experience with ener max gold plus 1000 but some seem to believe it is inadequate for the s2.

First, apologies your post got the self righteous end of my post, wasn't meant specifically at you personally Smiley I get you were talking more about the power chord being able to supply enough juice to feed the PSU.

Regarding the draw on a S2, it just means that it pulls more from the wall socket than 1000W which all PSU's will do if they are providing 1000W to the equipment they power, because no PSU is 100% efficient, so if its 90% efficient at full load it needs to pull near 1100W to give out 1000W (give or take a few W)

When people say that the rig is pulling 1050 they mean using their watt-o-meter, all the slightly lower efficiency means is that it pulls a few Watts more from the wall.

1050 watts at the wall in the case of the PSU on the S2 would mean its probably providing 916W to the miner (87.3% efficient) in fact in order to provide 1000W to the miner it would be pulling 1154W from the wall  Shocked

we cool   Cool

Yes power delivery is a sketchy question indeed.  There is a "bell curve" for both the psu and also a "Bell curve" for the asic chips also.  This is where Bitmain will probably have a newer design soon with a redesigned chip I suppose as everyone else is going to a less than 1watt/GH now
donator
Activity: 1617
Merit: 1012
Quick question: I'm looking around town for a place to host 4 Antminer S2's..

So far the best deal is a half-cabinet with a max power draw of 2.4kva. Would this be enough to power these four machines (totalling approximately 4000w)? Thanks.
No, you only have enough power for 2 machines. 2.4 kVA can power a theoretical maximum of 2.4 kW at a power factor of 1.0.
legendary
Activity: 3220
Merit: 1220
Because of advertising they want the highest rating to advertise.

That 4% makes a big difference especially if the psu is rated at 1000 watts and the mining rig pulls 1050 or more.  I don't have experience with ener max gold plus 1000 but some seem to believe it is inadequate for the s2.

First, apologies your post got the self righteous end of my post, wasn't meant specifically at you personally Smiley I get you were talking more about the power chord being able to supply enough juice to feed the PSU.

Regarding the draw on a S2, it just means that it pulls more from the wall socket than 1000W which all PSU's will do if they are providing 1000W to the equipment they power, because no PSU is 100% efficient, so if its 90% efficient at full load it needs to pull near 1100W to give out 1000W (give or take a few W)

When people say that the rig is pulling 1050 they mean using their watt-o-meter, all the slightly lower efficiency means is that it pulls a few Watts more from the wall.

1050 watts at the wall in the case of the PSU on the S2 would mean its probably providing 916W to the miner (87.3% efficient) in fact in order to provide 1000W to the miner it would be pulling 1154W from the wall  Shocked
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