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Topic: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH - page 11. (Read 451266 times)

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Assuming there is a failure of some sort in the last stage pair, then the worst it can be is that the core has gone SC, if it was OC then nothing would be working. This will have pushed up the core voltage on the other chips slightly but only a small amount. Is the red led on that board still working?

Rich

I dont know what SC is, OC could be... overcurrent? Anyhow, it is hashing normally-ish (75gh/s loss), the red led seem dead. I never really paid attention before but right now its right blade's led does not seem to be on.

Whats the diagnostic, doctor?

Short Circuit, Open Circuit, referring to the chips being in a string from a power point of view. So if you have an OC chip none of them will work, if SC then the rest of the chain is powered at a slightly higher voltage so it might work, which yours is. The fact that the red led is not on means there is a fault in the IO (In Out  Smiley circuitry in one of the final pair of chips.

Bottom line is that probably there is a fault in one of the final pair of chips, but that it is not preventing the rest of the chain from working. May not be a SC core, could just be a fault in the IO signal side of the chip.

However although I have a fair understanding of the circuit treat the above with a pinch of salt as so far I have not been able to repair my board with the last 4 chips not working....

Rich



So does a dead ASIC cause this or could it be like a bad resistor/capacitor ?  Are there any guides on here where somebody successfully repaired their S5? I've reballed /replaced many IC before in the past, the BM1384 seems like it would be very simple to swap since its fairly large compared to most other mobile IC's i had to replace in the past.

There is not much to go wrong on each of the stages. A big decoupling capacitor , the level shifting components between the stages, and the 1.8V Low Drop Out regulator. A few measurements are needed to confirm that chip failure is the most likely problem, then just the job of robbing a replacement chip from another board.

As I said I have not yet successfully repaired mine and the next job on the list is to make an ASIC test jig so that I can check the chip I remove before using it as a replacement.

If I ever get this done I will write it up along with a trouble shooting guide. However at this point I feel that my knowledge is just in theory rather than practice.

I have found removing and replacing the chips difficult with the IR rework station I have. Because of the heatsinking effect from the copper areas on the board they need a lot of heat, and I am worried I am damaging the chips. I suspect I need a more expensive device than the one I am using

Rich
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Assuming there is a failure of some sort in the last stage pair, then the worst it can be is that the core has gone SC, if it was OC then nothing would be working. This will have pushed up the core voltage on the other chips slightly but only a small amount. Is the red led on that board still working?

Rich

I dont know what SC is, OC could be... overcurrent? Anyhow, it is hashing normally-ish (75gh/s loss), the red led seem dead. I never really paid attention before but right now its right blade's led does not seem to be on.

Whats the diagnostic, doctor?

Short Circuit, Open Circuit, referring to the chips being in a string from a power point of view. So if you have an OC chip none of them will work, if SC then the rest of the chain is powered at a slightly higher voltage so it might work, which yours is. The fact that the red led is not on means there is a fault in the IO (In Out  Smiley circuitry in one of the final pair of chips.

Bottom line is that probably there is a fault in one of the final pair of chips, but that it is not preventing the rest of the chain from working. May not be a SC core, could just be a fault in the IO signal side of the chip.

However although I have a fair understanding of the circuit treat the above with a pinch of salt as so far I have not been able to repair my board with the last 4 chips not working....

Rich



So does a dead ASIC cause this or could it be like a bad resistor/capacitor ?  Are there any guides on here where somebody successfully repaired their S5? I've reballed /replaced many IC before in the past, the BM1384 seems like it would be very simple to swap since its fairly large compared to most other mobile IC's i had to replace in the past.
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Assuming there is a failure of some sort in the last stage pair, then the worst it can be is that the core has gone SC, if it was OC then nothing would be working. This will have pushed up the core voltage on the other chips slightly but only a small amount. Is the red led on that board still working?

Rich

I dont know what SC is, OC could be... overcurrent? Anyhow, it is hashing normally-ish (75gh/s loss), the red led seem dead. I never really paid attention before but right now its right blade's led does not seem to be on.

Whats the diagnostic, doctor?

Short Circuit, Open Circuit, referring to the chips being in a string from a power point of view. So if you have an OC chip none of them will work, if SC then the rest of the chain is powered at a slightly higher voltage so it might work, which yours is. The fact that the red led is not on means there is a fault in the IO (In Out  Smiley circuitry in one of the final pair of chips.

Bottom line is that probably there is a fault in one of the final pair of chips, but that it is not preventing the rest of the chain from working. May not be a SC core, could just be a fault in the IO signal side of the chip.

However although I have a fair understanding of the circuit treat the above with a pinch of salt as so far I have not been able to repair my board with the last 4 chips not working....

Rich

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I have 3 S5's all running at 400 with a RM1000 power supply
Power at wall 666 watt

Your fans are spinning very slow, are you keeping the unit outside ?
legendary
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Assuming there is a failure of some sort in the last stage pair, then the worst it can be is that the core has gone SC, if it was OC then nothing would be working. This will have pushed up the core voltage on the other chips slightly but only a small amount. Is the red led on that board still working?

Rich

I dont know what SC is, OC could be... overcurrent? Anyhow, it is hashing normally-ish (75gh/s loss), the red led seem dead. I never really paid attention before but right now its right blade's led does not seem to be on.

Whats the diagnostic, doctor?
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I dont have any X, though. The o's are just missing. Its the two last oo's in the chain, if that matters.

OK you have the dash. ----

Power cycle should fix it, most of the time. Especially if the unit was running all good.

I dont have any -. The o's are just missing. Its the same i get if i change voltage on a S4 without a power cycle.



It probably means that there is a failure of some sort in the last pair of ASIC's in the chain. If it were earlier in the chain then usually either nothing works or all the chips after the failure do not work. The next step would be to check a few voltages, but if it is a failed ASIC it's a tricky repair and you also need another failed board to remove a chip from.

Rich

I do have 2 failed board but i doubt i should do this kind of work. (Extracting and replacing the chip) i mean i've had trouble resoldering an uart cable.
And for 2 ASIC its not really worth shipping it out to say you or sidehack for repair. I'm mostly worried on if this can cause further deterioration to the board/controller/psu if i continue to run the board. What do you think?

Assuming there is a failure of some sort in the last stage pair, then the worst it can be is that the core has gone SC, if it was OC then nothing would be working. This will have pushed up the core voltage on the other chips slightly but only a small amount. Is the red led on that board still working?

Rich
legendary
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I dont have any X, though. The o's are just missing. Its the two last oo's in the chain, if that matters.

OK you have the dash. ----

Power cycle should fix it, most of the time. Especially if the unit was running all good.

I dont have any -. The o's are just missing. Its the same i get if i change voltage on a S4 without a power cycle.



It probably means that there is a failure of some sort in the last pair of ASIC's in the chain. If it were earlier in the chain then usually either nothing works or all the chips after the failure do not work. The next step would be to check a few voltages, but if it is a failed ASIC it's a tricky repair and you also need another failed board to remove a chip from.

Rich

I do have 2 failed board but i doubt i should do this kind of work. (Extracting and replacing the chip) i mean i've had trouble resoldering an uart cable.
And for 2 ASIC its not really worth shipping it out to say you or sidehack for repair. I'm mostly worried on if this can cause further deterioration to the board/controller/psu if i continue to run the board. What do you think?
hero member
Activity: 588
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I dont have any X, though. The o's are just missing. Its the two last oo's in the chain, if that matters.

OK you have the dash. ----

Power cycle should fix it, most of the time. Especially if the unit was running all good.

I dont have any -. The o's are just missing. Its the same i get if i change voltage on a S4 without a power cycle.



It probably means that there is a failure of some sort in the last pair of ASIC's in the chain. If it were earlier in the chain then usually either nothing works or all the chips after the failure do not work. The next step would be to check a few voltages, but if it is a failed ASIC it's a tricky repair and you also need another failed board to remove a chip from.

Rich
legendary
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A chain just popped after a soft reset at 28 ASIC and missing a bit of hashrate. Any idea of what to try and such? Beside the obvious replugging and power cycling?

I bought a broken S5 last year (end of it) and i got a blade with 4X. Nothing much can do done really ... power cycle may helps if you're lucky but mine always got the 4X now ;-)

This board is broken ... i cannot hash at more 281 for the freq and it also mien for like 1 hour before it stops.

I wish we had the schematics to fix them ...

I dont have any X, though. The o's are just missing. Its the two last oo's in the chain, if that matters.

OK you have the dash. ----

Power cycle should fix it, most of the time. Especially if the unit was running all good.

I dont have any -. The o's are just missing. Its the same i get if i change voltage on a S4 without a power cycle.
legendary
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A chain just popped after a soft reset at 28 ASIC and missing a bit of hashrate. Any idea of what to try and such? Beside the obvious replugging and power cycling?

I bought a broken S5 last year (end of it) and i got a blade with 4X. Nothing much can do done really ... power cycle may helps if you're lucky but mine always got the 4X now ;-)

This board is broken ... i cannot hash at more 281 for the freq and it also mien for like 1 hour before it stops.

I wish we had the schematics to fix them ...

I dont have any X, though. The o's are just missing. Its the two last oo's in the chain, if that matters.

OK you have the dash. ----

Power cycle should fix it, most of the time. Especially if the unit was running all good.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068
A chain just popped after a soft reset at 28 ASIC and missing a bit of hashrate. Any idea of what to try and such? Beside the obvious replugging and power cycling?

I bought a broken S5 last year (end of it) and i got a blade with 4X. Nothing much can do done really ... power cycle may helps if you're lucky but mine always got the 4X now ;-)

This board is broken ... i cannot hash at more 281 for the freq and it also mien for like 1 hour before it stops.

I wish we had the schematics to fix them ...

I dont have any X, though. The o's are just missing. Its the two last oo's in the chain, if that matters.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1005
A chain just popped after a soft reset at 28 ASIC and missing a bit of hashrate. Any idea of what to try and such? Beside the obvious replugging and power cycling?

I bought a broken S5 last year (end of it) and i got a blade with 4X. Nothing much can do done really ... power cycle may helps if you're lucky but mine always got the 4X now ;-)

This board is broken ... i cannot hash at more 281 for the freq and it also mien for like 1 hour before it stops.

I wish we had the schematics to fix them ...
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068
A chain just popped after a soft reset at 28 ASIC and missing a bit of hashrate. Any idea of what to try and such? Beside the obvious replugging and power cycling?
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I have 3 S5's all running at 400 with a RM1000 power supply
Power at wall 666 watt
legendary
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So what is the fastest stable overclock on an s5?  I have got a couple at 375 and briefly pushed it to 387.5.


Seem to mostly depend on the PSU quality, on EVGA G2's i mostly get 393, one take 400 before a loss, for 1.29 and 1.32TH.

Thanks for the info

Np. If you get server PSU with adjustable volt, i suspect you might be able to get significant overclock upgrade, at efficiency loss.
legendary
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So what is the fastest stable overclock on an s5?  I have got a couple at 375 and briefly pushed it to 387.5.


Seem to mostly depend on the PSU quality, on EVGA G2's i mostly get 393, one take 400 before a loss, for 1.29 and 1.32TH.

Thanks for the info
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068
So what is the fastest stable overclock on an s5?  I have got a couple at 375 and briefly pushed it to 387.5.


Seem to mostly depend on the PSU quality, on EVGA G2's i mostly get 393, one take 400 before a loss, for 1.29 and 1.32TH.
legendary
Activity: 1120
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So what is the fastest stable overclock on an s5?  I have got a couple at 375 and briefly pushed it to 387.5.
legendary
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Merit: 1068
Well It starts to beep before I can access the gui. And if I look at the hash it shows 30-40gh and then drops off. Now if it is hashing then realizes there's no fan. Guess I need to test. I don't see the chips getting super hot after boot as the heatsink D will barley be warm

It would take a bit of time to heat up, it would not get to 80c instantly, and typically you can access GUI before the hashing start. You might need to see if someone know a hardware fix to this. If not you may need a new controller or a image that has this safety disabled.
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Well It starts to beep before I can access the gui. And if I look at the hash it shows 30-40gh and then drops off. Now if it is hashing then realizes there's no fan. Guess I need to test. I don't see the chips getting super hot after boot as the heatsink D will barley be warm
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