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Topic: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH - page 117. (Read 451039 times)

legendary
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I've done some research, made some measurements and experimented with some 2-wire 120mm fans from old PSUs.

I believe that two of the following fans will work in push/pull configuration to run at stock frequency (350M) or higher without going for gold in a banshee screeching contest.

http://www.cougargaming.com/products/fans/vortex_pwm.html

"Cougar Vortex" $11.89 USD each at the local shop.

Not enough CFM. These fans do max 70 cfm. ( I did try the same setup)

You need more cfm. Check the delta fans.  Wink

What's the minimum per fan CFM on a 2x fan setup?

I'm able to run at a frequency of 250M hashing almost 800GH/s with two old PSU fans. These fans can't be more than 20 CFM each. This thing seems stable just below 50 deg.
legendary
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I've done some research, made some measurements and experimented with some 2-wire 120mm fans from old PSUs.

I believe that two of the following fans will work in push/pull configuration to run at stock frequency (350M) or higher without going for gold in a banshee screeching contest.

http://www.cougargaming.com/products/fans/vortex_pwm.html

"Cougar Vortex" $11.89 USD each at the local shop.

Not enough CFM. These fans do max 70 cfm. ( I did try the same setup)

You need more cfm. Check the delta fans.  Wink
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1038
I've done some research, made some measurements and experimented with some 2-wire 120mm fans from old PSUs.

I believe that two of the following fans will work in push/pull configuration to run at stock frequency (350M) or higher without going for gold in a banshee screeching contest.

http://www.cougargaming.com/products/fans/vortex_pwm.html

"Cougar Vortex" $11.89 USD each at the local shop.
newbie
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hero member
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@Pekatete,

if your purcahse was within the last 90-days, please e-mail [email protected] and attach your Order Confirmation page in PDF with your shipping address information.  There is a service center in Serbia that may be able to service you closer than USA.


It is just inside 90 days, so I'll send an email to the above address and see what comes of it. Not sure what the wording should be in the email though (seeing it was [email protected] who told me to get one from the local market) .... I'd like to get a replacement fan as the shipped one was a DOA .... would that suffice?
donator
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@Pekatete,

if your purcahse was within the last 90-days, please e-mail [email protected] and attach your Order Confirmation page in PDF with your shipping address information.  There is a service center in Serbia that may be able to service you closer than USA.



@pekatete,

dead fan, we do offer replacement.  The fans used on Antminer is not an easy one to find as it uses 4 wires and high RPM.

We are sorry for the inconvenience.  Our USA based team can take care of you faster usually and they are available 24/7.



Thank you for the stats!!

52 is a bit warm but it is well in the range.

Not sure you are thanking me, but I'll accept anyway; You are welcome.
The 52 refered to is the top temp, i.e with that configuration, the temps never go above 52 during the day (and currently  below 48 at night). I actually believed 52 was a brilliant top temp, but I've not had a different temp to compare with as my S5 shipped with a stone dead fan that never turned a fin in anger! I was advised to buy one from the local market (without any hint of irony or any offer for a replacement .... not even a voucher offer!).

Better late than never .... but I am not based in the US, rather the UK, so it may be tricky for me to send you the dead fan (which I still have and looks pristine next to the others I salvaged from my now decomisioned S1's!). If on the other hand you can send me the replacement without me having to meet the cost of mailing you the dead one, I'll be more than happy to furnish any info you require.
hero member
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@pekatete,

dead fan, we do offer replacement.  The fans used on Antminer is not an easy one to find as it uses 4 wires and high RPM.

We are sorry for the inconvenience.  Our USA based team can take care of you faster usually and they are available 24/7.



Thank you for the stats!!

52 is a bit warm but it is well in the range.

Not sure you are thanking me, but I'll accept anyway; You are welcome.
The 52 refered to is the top temp, i.e with that configuration, the temps never go above 52 during the day (and currently  below 48 at night). I actually believed 52 was a brilliant top temp, but I've not had a different temp to compare with as my S5 shipped with a stone dead fan that never turned a fin in anger! I was advised to buy one from the local market (without any hint of irony or any offer for a replacement .... not even a voucher offer!).

Better late than never .... but I am not based in the US, rather the UK, so it may be tricky for me to send you the dead fan (which I still have and looks pristine next to the others I salvaged from my now decomisioned S1's!). If on the other hand you can send me the replacement without me having to meet the cost of mailing you the dead one, I'll be more than happy to furnish any info you require.
legendary
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Coins, Games & Miners
Hi peeps... i have some question regarding the hashing boards. I've found the following, comparing with dogie's photoshoot:



In this image, i've seen that the new hashing boards come with additional pins, with a 3-bit address and a plug pin. Is this a sign of a coming device with 8 hashing boards? Can i connect 8 hashing boards to the same controller with different address bases?

I suppose those A0, A1 and A2 go to the lower part of the addr pinout of each BM1384 on the hashboard, set by the controller board, am i right? Given that 5 Bits are enough to handle 32 I2C devices, and probably the temperature sensor is on the I2C bus too (or something else i'm missing?).



That would allow direct addressing from the controller board to 256 devices, grouped on 8 different boards, with 32 devices on each board.... makes sense? doesn't it?

Also, the controller board:



Comes with an Altera Cyclone 4 FPGA, does this FPGA do some validation? (like nonce checking, etc?) or is it just to communicate with the I2C devices?

Also, what's the purpose of the RX and TX pins? If there's already an I2C bus, why have another serial port between the controller and hashboards? For what purpose is dedicated the I2C bus and the Serial bus?

Also, what's the pinout of the hashboard beaglebone connector? is there a way to prescind the beaglebones and use a "full" computer to control a lot of S5 hashboards from, say, a linux computer?

So many questions! Sorry Cheesy
donator
Activity: 792
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@pekatete,

dead fan, we do offer replacement.  The fans used on Antminer is not an easy one to find as it uses 4 wires and high RPM.

We are sorry for the inconvenience.  Our USA based team can take care of you faster usually and they are available 24/7.



Thank you for the stats!!

52 is a bit warm but it is well in the range.

Not sure you are thanking me, but I'll accept anyway; You are welcome.
The 52 refered to is the top temp, i.e with that configuration, the temps never go above 52 during the day (and currently  below 48 at night). I actually believed 52 was a brilliant top temp, but I've not had a different temp to compare with as my S5 shipped with a stone dead fan that never turned a fin in anger! I was advised to buy one from the local market (without any hint of irony or any offer for a replacement .... not even a voucher offer!).
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
Thank you for the stats!!

52 is a bit warm but it is well in the range.

Not sure you are thanking me, but I'll accept anyway; You are welcome.
The 52 refered to is the top temp, i.e with that configuration, the temps never go above 52 during the day (and currently  below 48 at night). I actually believed 52 was a brilliant top temp, but I've not had a different temp to compare with as my S5 shipped with a stone dead fan that never turned a fin in anger! I was advised to buy one from the local market (without any hint of irony or any offer for a replacement .... not even a voucher offer!).
donator
Activity: 792
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Thank you for the stats!!

52 is a bit warm but it is well in the range.
hero member
Activity: 818
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Just three fans available and mentioned, with the cheapest being the thermalright. I have this running on my S5 without PWM in a pull configuration with a stock S3 fan on PWM in a push configuration and my temps struggle to breach the 52 mark during the day (it is winter turned spring ... just), having skirted the mid to late 60's with just the stock S3 in push full pelt!. I can say noise is definitely less than a stock S3 fan running without PWM.
PS. though I run the thermalright without PWM, the maximum the S5 has reported it running is 2400 (despite it being rated at 2500).

Fan  CFM   Noise RPM Depth (mm)
Thermalright  130     45   2500     26.5
Noctua  109.8    43.5   3000     25
Silverstone  171    43.5   2000     38.5

Saying that, I'd swear by these HP Proliant ML530 130mm Fan TA500DC. I have a couple of these running on overclocked S3's in a pull configuration with voltage limited to approx 7v thus less noise. I'll probably be running one (if not both) of my next S5's on these though ....

I was in Microcenter the other day and they had a Delta Fan Delta AFB1212SHE for $20.  Couldn't pass it up since I had one on the truck.  I can't tell the specs of it.  I see several different models on the website: 

http://1stpccorp.com/fan_delta_120mm.htm

I do know it is 1.6A rating, but that's about it.  But like the specs I see.  It also has a 4 pin connector. 

Damn, i missed UPS.  Off to the service center i go.

Delta's are usually screamers. I think I saw the same fan at MicroCenter. It was the only Delta 38mm model there and it even said on the package you may need ear protection when in use for long periods of time.



A lot quieter than the stock.
hero member
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Just three fans available and mentioned, with the cheapest being the thermalright. I have this running on my S5 without PWM in a pull configuration with a stock S3 fan on PWM in a push configuration and my temps struggle to breach the 52 mark during the day (it is winter turned spring ... just), having skirted the mid to late 60's with just the stock S3 in push full pelt!. I can say noise is definitely less than a stock S3 fan running without PWM.
PS. though I run the thermalright without PWM, the maximum the S5 has reported it running is 2400 (despite it being rated at 2500).

Fan  CFM   Noise RPM Depth (mm)
Thermalright  130     45   2500     26.5
Noctua  109.8    43.5   3000     25
Silverstone  171    43.5   2000     38.5

Saying that, I'd swear by these HP Proliant ML530 130mm Fan TA500DC. I have a couple of these running on overclocked S3's in a pull configuration with voltage limited to approx 7v thus less noise. I'll probably be running one (if not both) of my next S5's on these though ....

I was in Microcenter the other day and they had a Delta Fan Delta AFB1212SHE for $20.  Couldn't pass it up since I had one on the truck.  I can't tell the specs of it.  I see several different models on the website: 

http://1stpccorp.com/fan_delta_120mm.htm

I do know it is 1.6A rating, but that's about it.  But like the specs I see.  It also has a 4 pin connector. 

Damn, i missed UPS.  Off to the service center i go.

Well, got my miner.  Hashing away at specs.  It is a new machine.  The delta is pushing and the stock is pulling.  

53/58

Fan 1 - 2880

Fan 2 - 3960

That stock fan is a banshee, glad they are in the basement.  I might just replace the stock fan also
donator
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almost all Antminer will be tested for about 24 hours prior to be shipped out as a part of Bitmain's quality control process.  

On late friday batch could be sit on the test floor over the weekend, may gather more dust than the weekday batch.

We are constantly working on quality improvement and if we can fix the dust in the air, it will be fixed!  

The testing floor has many open windows where outside dust comes inside.  In China, this was same every year and it is SAND STORM month at the moment.  If the miners were tested near the window, there is a chance that it may have more dust build up and if the miners are from the center of the test zone, less dust.

It goes though a belt system and then packaged by hands. (Its not packaged by robot as other electronics)

Shenzhen, China that is where the factory is located and it is just out side of Hong Kong and it is hot and humid at this time of the year.  (Some quality control stickers may have been placed and then slipped as miners being grabbed by hands and then be packaged into the bubble wrap bag, then on to the box, then the box to be taped up.

Bitmain hardware is guaranteed to hash at the advertised rate upon delivery and it comes with 90-day replacement warranty from the shipping date.  We package each miner to withstand strong turbulence and football being played with the package by the carrier but we can't guarantee cosmetic quality control stickers to be in place at the time of the delivery.

Also, BATCH IDENTIFICATION.

PCB version is not the way to identify what batch the miners came from.  PCBs are mass produced ahead of time and being used based on the specific components availability.  There are many different version of S5 hashing PCBs based on the different components and there fore different versions.  (Different print date PCB could be in the mix)

As you may notice, each hashing PCB uses the same little components many times repeatedly and total counts do add up and go though the parts really fast!

legendary
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One person, today recieve BrandNEW S5 from 5th batch... look (right blade)


That kind of pisses me off. You pay for something you expect it to be new. WTF? I bet that right miner has been used for at least a month. It is a completely different design too. Isn't there some kind of consumer protection that you are expected to receive NEW and UNUSED hardware? No where is it stated that the hardware is used or refurbished. Looks like Antminer is trying to slip in used miners. That's a whole level of low and just bad business practice.

Can Bitmaintech share with us why your loyal buyers are getting used hardware?





It's probably from one of their data centers.  They mine with them for a while until the machine paid for itself (not long since cost = manufacturer's cost) and then resell at full retail.



So no cares? Everyone here just talking about fans. I think they are missing the important information and a little delusional.

you think that you are the first one who posted this? most people don't care much (maybe a little). If you had a DOA miner or miner with some difficult to reproduce ailment, then it matters. A bit of dust? people here are mostly (not completely) indifferent to this.
hero member
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So no cares? Everyone here just talking about fans. I think they are missing the important information and a little delusional.
There are 179 pages in just this thread, and hundreds more (if not thousands) where your so called important information has been exhaustively commented on. You seem to be on a new account (not sure that equates to being new here), so before you castigate anyone and / or lay claim to being the clearest mind on the forum (I concur, being here can muddle your thinking), we are all eyes for your pearls of wisdom!
full member
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One person, today recieve BrandNEW S5 from 5th batch... look (right blade)


Its clearly a different board rev, are you sure that its actually used beyond a burn in period?
newbie
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One person, today recieve BrandNEW S5 from 5th batch... look (right blade)


That kind of pisses me off. You pay for something you expect it to be new. WTF? I bet that right miner has been used for at least a month. It is a completely different design too. Isn't there some kind of consumer protection that you are expected to receive NEW and UNUSED hardware? No where is it stated that the hardware is used or refurbished. Looks like Antminer is trying to slip in used miners. That's a whole level of low and just bad business practice.

Can Bitmaintech share with us why your loyal buyers are getting used hardware?





It's probably from one of their data centers.  They mine with them for a while until the machine paid for itself (not long since cost = manufacturer's cost) and then resell at full retail.

So no cares? Everyone here just talking about fans. I think they are missing the important information and a little delusional.
legendary
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I am concerned that bitmain has my coin but havent responded with a confirmation that I paid (even though my payment shows it went in 5 minutes after I ordered it) - does this mean they are going to take my money and not give me the product I ordered?

I have the same problem today, I paid by BTC at around 2:30PM , it is now more than 3 hours later and my order shows up as unpaid and expired. I used my blockchain.info wallet because I think Bitmain also uses Blockchain.info wallets... anyway I emailed them and opened a ticket but have not heard anything back. I do have screenshots of the transaction and of the block explorer showing the exact sum in their payment wallet.



don't worry yet. if tx is on the blockchain, they will adjust it manually within 24 hr.
legendary
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One person, today recieve BrandNEW S5 from 5th batch... look (right blade)


That kind of pisses me off. You pay for something you expect it to be new. WTF? I bet that right miner has been used for at least a month. It is a completely different design too. Isn't there some kind of consumer protection that you are expected to receive NEW and UNUSED hardware? No where is it stated that the hardware is used or refurbished. Looks like Antminer is trying to slip in used miners. That's a whole level of low and just bad business practice.

Can Bitmaintech share with us why your loyal buyers are getting used hardware?





It's probably from one of their data centers.  They mine with them for a while until the machine paid for itself (not long since cost = manufacturer's cost) and then resell at full retail.
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