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Topic: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH - page 156. (Read 451277 times)

legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
Agreed. I'm making a formal call of shenanigans against Bitmain.

Do not support their transparent price gouging. Additionally, I would recommend miners move off Antpool in favor of any other pool (Except EclipseMC because Fuck Butterfly Labs).

I agree wholeheartedly.

It's a move that clearly shows no respect to the miners.

Yup.  Move off of Antpool if you mine there.


For sure no "consumers" should be supporting Ant and mining there, nor should any of us purchase their hardware anymore after this latest stunt.  I have been wanting looking at the S5 for a while, but now I'm going to spent my money elsewhere.
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8899
'The right to privacy matters'
https://blockchain.info/tx/52f60df58612faec5bcfe06ba8ee63004d6b04532760f5ae24b2e119361db4fd


my jan purchase

can be traced to this large holding account


https://blockchain.info/address/1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V

and it looks like  191 purchased in the last 14 hours.

edit 220 purchased since  3//9/15  11:30 am UMC time    or when it opened.


so 220 x 1.2 th = 264th  also about   220 x 1.6 coins = 352 coins


an opinion this is slow sales.

first sale was this one

https://blockchain.info/tx/c385cca459650f8e72e0986d05cb75a65b8e85a335cafd0ce85f22d1114f795e

second sale was this one

https://blockchain.info/tx/b44638a54c46d3a753d16e1105c6c8354b3a95a285cd54161ded3f63eb456365


last sale is this

https://blockchain.info/tx/efdc1c393d155605c24a0507f5f7064f48caf09094e49cf7bd4a098585153467


grand total of 464 btc about 300 units sold
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1005
I'm having an issue with a hosted S5. They changed my pools and i'm 100% everything is fine (Tested all the info at home) but they still show as dead pool.

Is there a kind of trick which you need to reboot the unit to make the change work ? I don't know if he only clicked save and not save and apply but still ...

thanks



You might try ssh'ing in,  then 'screen -r', then hit 'P' which will bring up the pools list and change the data there.  Make sure when you complete your changes to the pools you hit enter to go back to the hashing page, then hit "S" for setting, and the 'W' for write the config or next boot it will be back to what it was.

The info are correctly change (as i can see in some form of UI provided by the hosting service).

The question is, why would the pool stay as dead ? I guess the unit just need a reboot (or just a cgminer reboot)

I have no idea how he changes the pool setup, but he did it correctly. It just that the pool stay f***** dead.

thanks for the help ;-)
soy
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1013
I'm having an issue with a hosted S5. They changed my pools and i'm 100% everything is fine (Tested all the info at home) but they still show as dead pool.

Is there a kind of trick which you need to reboot the unit to make the change work ? I don't know if he only clicked save and not save and apply but still ...

thanks



You might try ssh'ing in,  then 'screen -r', then hit 'P' which will bring up the pools list and change the data there.  Make sure when you complete your changes to the pools you hit enter to go back to the hashing page, then hit "S" for setting, and the 'W' for write the config or next boot it will be back to what it was.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
Hello Bitmain. Do you have any estimation on when an S6 will be available (if made), and the time frame?
I imagine it will be made available for sale sometime in the near future at $949 1 hour later price changed to $995 1 hour later price changed to $1199 1 hour later price changed to $1299.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
Personal text my ass....
Hello Bitmain. Do you have any estimation on when an S6 will be available (if made), and the time frame?

Thanks
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1005
I'm having an issue with a hosted S5. They changed my pools and i'm 100% everything is fine (Tested all the info at home) but they still show as dead pool.

Is there a kind of trick which you need to reboot the unit to make the change work ? I don't know if he only clicked save and not save and apply but still ...

thanks

newbie
Activity: 44
Merit: 0

Bfl has sent 3 or 4 emails  to me offering a monarch for sale since march 2nd

Ha, me too. And in the email they explained that they still haven't shipped miners ordered in 2013.  Sign me up for a two year waiting list.

That was sarcastic for thoses who didn't get it.
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8899
'The right to privacy matters'
Speaking of BFL, the price of an S5 once you factor in shipping and PSU isn't too far off the $/TH for a new Monarch. I find that hilarious.

Bfl has sent 3 or 4 emails  to me offering a monarch for sale since march 2nd
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1859
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
Speaking of BFL, the price of an S5 once you factor in shipping and PSU isn't too far off the $/TH for a new Monarch. I find that hilarious.
member
Activity: 68
Merit: 10
"A change in competitor" = BS.

That's it exactly! 

I'm still in awe that's even part of their explanation.
member
Activity: 66
Merit: 10
Agreed. I'm making a formal call of shenanigans against Bitmain.

Do not support their transparent price gouging. Additionally, I would recommend miners move off Antpool in favor of any other pool (Except EclipseMC because Fuck Butterfly Labs).

I agree wholeheartedly.

It's a move that clearly shows no respect to the miners.

Yup.  Move off of Antpool if you mine there.
legendary
Activity: 1098
Merit: 1000
I've moaned about Bitmain's price gouging in the past (which is what it is despite all the clever words), but this time doesn't really matter.

Anyone who carefully looks at the numbers realises it would never ROI at the old price, so it's irrelevant what they charge now.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
"A change in competitor" = BS. The drop then rise of S5 miner price is simply because he likes to play games by speculating with bitcoin price in order to extract the most possible juice out of the miners and leave zero marginal benefit to miners because in his space he's a monopolist/oligopolist. Let's drop the bullshit once and for all.

Agreed. I'm making a formal call of shenanigans against Bitmain.

Do not support their transparent price gouging. Additionally, I would recommend miners move off Antpool in favor of any other pool (Except EclipseMC because Fuck Butterfly Labs).
sr. member
Activity: 408
Merit: 250
"A change in competitor" = BS. The drop then rise of S5 miner price is simply because he likes to play games by speculating with bitcoin price in order to extract the most possible juice out of the miners and leave zero marginal benefit to miners because in his space he's a monopolist/oligopolist. Let's drop the bullshit once and for all.
member
Activity: 68
Merit: 10
The S3++ is not being produced right now.

And the hashrate/weight ratio makes it very unreasonable to sell to oversea buyers, who will have to pay shipping cost based on the weight.

So the S3++ we just find private bulk buyers to consume it. The shipping cost inside China is not that much.

I am confused.  Please explain: you do not want to sell the S3++ because "it very unreasonable to sell to oversea buyers", but it is not unreasonable to increase the price by 30% all at once, just because of a change with a competitor?

Some others are in the same situation as me - I also have my own business (for 15 years now) and I cannot raise my prices, in the middle of a purchase with a customer.  I also cannot raise my prices by 30% in a single step.  I also cannot raise my prices by 30% at once, just because one of my competitors stopped competing.  If I did any of these things, my existing customers would go away.

It would be very helpful for you, to share things with your customers.  Let us know what you are planning (Dear Customer, when we come back from the Chinese New Year Holiday, new pricing will be in place).  Let us know what your plans are for products - when are you planning to release a new product?  What type of product do you expect it to be?  Let us know what your plans are for upgrades to older products (S2 upgrade).  Can you see that it appears to us, as customers, that you really don't care, when you don't communicate with us - until there is a huge upset, like you have seen here in the last day.  Now you are talking... a little bit, when people ask very specific questions.  Can you see that it feels very disrespectful to us, as customers?


Also, can you please tell us when there will be new firmware for the S5?  It is a big problem when the network goes down and the S5 keeps working on nothing and the temperature goes way higher than 80C and it still keeps going, instead of stopping.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1003
He probably means it's not a cost you have to worry about returning within the lifetime of the miner, as once that machine is retired the PSU is (hopefully) still fully functional for the next machine and/or maintains most of its original value for resale. The problem with Dogie's one-off replies is they're so short it's easy to overlook context and misconstrue intent, especially when you read them through cynical lenses.

When I buy gear I'd rather buy gear without built-in PSUs as I basically factor PSU as a zero cost. We have so many running around at the shop (one benefit of being a PSU hardware manufacturer/supplier) that the cost is negligible and, oftentimes with our gear, the reliability is improved.

+1

Look at the PSU issues with the S2's.  I'd rather not pay retail for a POS when I can supply something better, more efficient and for less myself.

SPT has said that they won't be putting out externally-powered miners in the future, but I hope they change their mind on that matter.
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1859
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
Would you consider selling to a bulk buyer not in China but in continental East Asia?

Additionally,
pekatete elaborated what we want to say. Bitmain's pricing is based on our projection of the future diff, which is based on the mining rig quantity which will be available on the market.

A less crappy pricing model, at least for the upperbound, is "how much does this cost to make? Let's add a bit of margin so we can keep the lights on and pay someone to design new stuff" instead of "how much does this cost to make? How much profit can we possibly wrangle from our customer base before they refuse to buy any more?" I don't have the nards to look my customers in the eyes while adding an extra 30% profit margin onto my products just because they have nowhere else to buy from. I think that's called "abuse".
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
@BITMAIN - Any insight into the pricing and specs on the upcoming S3++ ?
I have it on good authority that your factories are busy churning these out ....

The S3++ is not being produced right now.

And the hashrate/weight ratio makes it very unreasonable to sell to oversea buyers, who will have to pay shipping cost based on the weight.

So the S3++ we just find private bulk buyers to consume it. The shipping cost inside China is not that much.

Thanks for the response, but it is a touch contradictory ... though I understand the reasons for not wanting to offer it to overseas buyers. Then again, since you confirm that there is an S3++ (albeit for the Chinese market), would you consider selling to an overseas private bulk buyer? More pertinent though, some spec numbers being banded around seem too good to be true, so could you take some time to throw some light on that if you can?
hero member
Activity: 635
Merit: 500
But Bitmain....

What about the S2 upgrades?

They just laying under the shelf and waiting.....

Waiting for the final call from our R&D team which they would say "it's OK and please sell."

Good.....  Cheesy

And maybe full miners with same specs?
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