ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH - page 243.

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Quote from: IYFTech on January 05, 2015, 06:36:45 AM

...the S5's require a reboot pretty often due to a firmware issue that makes one hash board drop off every other day..... Sad

@ Bitmain: Any news on a firmware fix for this in the near future?

Temperatures are key to getting these guys running stable. I had issues with xx's appearing around 64C.

Since keeping them cool and <~60C, they've been solid, overclocked to 375, for a few days now.

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Had to reboot this one when I moved it to a circuit to share with an S3. Was running solid 3 days prior.

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This one has been running for 4 days now solid.

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Quote from: not.you on January 06, 2015, 08:03:19 AM

Quote from: IYFTech on January 06, 2015, 05:35:56 AM

Quote from: sbogovac on January 06, 2015, 05:30:50 AM

Quote from: IYFTech on January 06, 2015, 04:58:23 AM

Quote from: IYFTech on January 05, 2015, 06:36:45 AM

..... as the S5's require a reboot pretty often due to a firmware issue that makes one hash board drop off every other day..... Sad

@ Bitmain: Any news on a firmware fix for this in the near future?

I can't imagine buying multiple units until this is fixed, it's bad enough having to babysit the one unit.

Do you think this can be fixed with software or is it maybe inherent to the "chain design" implemented in the S5 hardware?

Personally, I think it's a firmware issue - maybe if Bitmain would confirm......

This is the first I heard of this and I have a batch 3 order so shipping any time now. Is everyone experiencing this? Does restarting cgminer fix it temporarily? I have a batch 2 S3 that needs a ton of babysitting also because the hashrate drifts lower and lower the longer it runs, so what I finally did was create a cron job to restart cgminer. I originally did a cron job to reboot the thing but one time it rebooted and got all hosed up and didn't mine at all for hours so I just restart cgminer now.

Exactly, but with the S1 and S3 it were "just" a few chips that went x... I put a RasPi on the router and enabled a secure VPN so I could remotely manage (and reboot) them (in my case anywhere on earth where my iPhone had an internet connection). But AFAIK the S5 has a "chain design", hence my post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10056155

PS you could also achieve this with a "simple/dumb" mechanical timer on the power cord set to interrupt the power for a few minutes at set intervals (say: once every 24 hours for instance)...

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Quote from: IYFTech on January 06, 2015, 05:35:56 AM

Quote from: sbogovac on January 06, 2015, 05:30:50 AM

Quote from: IYFTech on January 06, 2015, 04:58:23 AM

Quote from: IYFTech on January 05, 2015, 06:36:45 AM

..... as the S5's require a reboot pretty often due to a firmware issue that makes one hash board drop off every other day..... Sad

@ Bitmain: Any news on a firmware fix for this in the near future?

I can't imagine buying multiple units until this is fixed, it's bad enough having to babysit the one unit.

Do you think this can be fixed with software or is it maybe inherent to the "chain design" implemented in the S5 hardware?

Personally, I think it's a firmware issue - maybe if Bitmain would confirm......

This is the first I heard of this and I have a batch 3 order so shipping any time now. Is everyone experiencing this? Does restarting cgminer fix it temporarily? I have a batch 2 S3 that needs a ton of babysitting also because the hashrate drifts lower and lower the longer it runs, so what I finally did was create a cron job to restart cgminer. I originally did a cron job to reboot the thing but one time it rebooted and got all hosed up and didn't mine at all for hours so I just restart cgminer now.

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Quote from: dogie on January 06, 2015, 07:15:47 AM

tldr, its not a 'cheaper' or 'noisier' design, its a requirement to reach that performance threshold.

Irrespective of what you say, it's noisier, unbearably so. The pitch is higher along with the absolute sound pressure level. I don't recall implying it was cheaper.

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Quote from: -ck on January 06, 2015, 01:24:47 AM

So I've done a ton of experimenting and investigating on the S5 noise problem and found something very interesting.

The fan on the front of the S5 is NOT a 38mm fan. It's a 38mm form factor with more 25mm blades and a smaller static set of vanes on the inside to direct airflow. That means it has extra noise compared to an equivalent 38mm fan and does not generate the higher static air pressure that a 38mm fan would - presumably it was chosen for higher CFM compared to the 38mm version they used to include on the S3. So I ripped the fan off the back of the S3 and stuck it on the front of the S5. Noise levels are now significantly lower and the cooling is only marginally less effective.

This is different to the S3 fan, which is a generic "12025" with a 38mm deep rotor. The S4 and S5 fan utilises a 25mm deep rotor coupled with what I call a prespin. This type of design is typically required to prevent backflow at very high static pressures + high CFM combinations. Weird things would happen to the airflow patterns if you didn't use one.

tldr, its not a 'cheaper' or 'noisier' design, its a requirement to reach that performance threshold.

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Quote from: IYFTech on January 06, 2015, 05:35:56 AM

Quote from: sbogovac on January 06, 2015, 05:30:50 AM

Quote from: IYFTech on January 06, 2015, 04:58:23 AM

Quote from: IYFTech on January 05, 2015, 06:36:45 AM

..... as the S5's require a reboot pretty often due to a firmware issue that makes one hash board drop off every other day..... Sad

@ Bitmain: Any news on a firmware fix for this in the near future?

I can't imagine buying multiple units until this is fixed, it's bad enough having to babysit the one unit.

Do you think this can be fixed with software or is it maybe inherent to the "chain design" implemented in the S5 hardware?

Personally, I think it's a firmware issue - maybe if Bitmain would confirm......

I definitely hope so too, but I fear the worst...

As far as I remember Bitmain used a chain design for the S5. This means the errors show up like:

xooooooo; (abbreviated)
xxoooooo;
xxxooooo;
xxxxoooo;
xxxxxooo;
xxxxxxoo;
xxxxxxxo; or
xxxxxxxx.

At least, that (left to right) is how it looks atm.

Further more it seems that this is more likely to be

xxxxxxoo

then

xxoooooo

due to the cooling configuration (one fan, probably cooling the one end of the chain better than the other)...

But yes; confirmation by Bitmain would be highly appreciated... Grin

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Quote from: sbogovac on January 06, 2015, 05:30:50 AM

Quote from: IYFTech on January 06, 2015, 04:58:23 AM

Quote from: IYFTech on January 05, 2015, 06:36:45 AM

..... as the S5's require a reboot pretty often due to a firmware issue that makes one hash board drop off every other day..... Sad

@ Bitmain: Any news on a firmware fix for this in the near future?

I can't imagine buying multiple units until this is fixed, it's bad enough having to babysit the one unit.

Do you think this can be fixed with software or is it maybe inherent to the "chain design" implemented in the S5 hardware?

Personally, I think it's a firmware issue - maybe if Bitmain would confirm......

sbogovac

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I don't believe in denial.

Quote from: IYFTech on January 06, 2015, 04:58:23 AM

Quote from: IYFTech on January 05, 2015, 06:36:45 AM

..... as the S5's require a reboot pretty often due to a firmware issue that makes one hash board drop off every other day..... Sad

@ Bitmain: Any news on a firmware fix for this in the near future?

I can't imagine buying multiple units until this is fixed, it's bad enough having to babysit the one unit.

Do you think this can be fixed with software or is it maybe inherent to the "chain design" implemented in the S5 hardware?

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Quote from: bgibso01 on January 05, 2015, 10:36:32 PM

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Quote from: Phosphorous on January 05, 2015, 06:55:44 PM

Bitmain, why are the coupons different amounts to different people?

Its to do with the batches and inter-batches having different prices and shipping dates.

You sure about that? Mine was first batch and only $30 coupons.

I'm guessing the logic is that earlier batches got their machines earlier and thus have recouped more of the cost through mining... is that right?

Maybe but doesn't make sense as the price was dropped for later batches also. I'd question if the s5 has even recouped $30 yet.

.0118 btc per day so the firsts ones came about 1 week ago 7 x .0118 = around .0826 x 277 = 22 usd not counting power.

I used 1th hash so go to 1.3th which is the max it can do 1.3 x 22 = 28.60 - the power which at best would be 8 bucks = 20 profit. looks like you are correct

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Quote from: IYFTech on January 05, 2015, 06:36:45 AM

..... as the S5's require a reboot pretty often due to a firmware issue that makes one hash board drop off every other day..... Sad

@ Bitmain: Any news on a firmware fix for this in the near future?

I can't imagine buying multiple units until this is fixed, it's bad enough having to babysit the one unit.

-ck

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Have you tried closing in the top so the front fan air flow is kept within the frame and exhausted out the rear? Also, how about reducing the airflow above the heat sinks (reducing the upper front fan opening) so as to improve cooling efficiency (greater air flow through the internal heat sinks)?

Beyond that, how about an S3 fan both on front (push) and rear (pull)?

None of these seemed to make any significant difference. The loudness and temperature seems almost entirely dependent on the one fan on the front.

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Does anyone know if they are they issuing coupons to those who bought units off Amazon (from their BITMAIN account using the direct link on their website?)

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Ruu \o/

So I've done a ton of experimenting and investigating on the S5 noise problem and found something very interesting.

The fan on the front of the S5 is NOT a 38mm fan. It's a 38mm form factor with more 25mm blades and a smaller static set of vanes on the inside to direct airflow. That means it has extra noise compared to an equivalent 38mm fan and does not generate the higher static air pressure that a 38mm fan would - presumably it was chosen for higher CFM compared to the 38mm version they used to include on the S3. So I ripped the fan off the back of the S3 and stuck it on the front of the S5. Noise levels are now significantly lower and the cooling is only marginally less effective.

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Quote from: bgibso01 on January 05, 2015, 10:36:32 PM

Quote from: Phosphorous on January 05, 2015, 08:55:41 PM

Quote from: bgibso01 on January 05, 2015, 08:50:48 PM

Quote from: dogie on January 05, 2015, 07:14:01 PM

Quote from: Phosphorous on January 05, 2015, 06:55:44 PM

Bitmain, why are the coupons different amounts to different people?

Its to do with the batches and inter-batches having different prices and shipping dates.

You sure about that? Mine was first batch and only $30 coupons.

I'm guessing the logic is that earlier batches got their machines earlier and thus have recouped more of the cost through mining... is that right?

Maybe but doesn't make sense as the price was dropped for later batches also. I'd question if the s5 has even recouped $30 yet.

No, but they would have mined the $10 difference in the $30 vs $40 coupon from Batch 1 to 2.

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Quote from: klondike_bar on January 05, 2015, 10:29:29 PM

anyone have a S5 coupon of reasonable value? Seems Bitmain is being aggressive on price vs SP20

2x45 for 0.17

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As always Bitmain Antminer price changes frequently based on the shipping dates and sometimes based on the quantity discount (bulk), price per miner may differ by orders. To be fair to each customer, instead of a blanket discount coupons used in the past, in S5, it is calculated per customer to be fair, so the customers who paid more may have received higher value discount coupons to customers from most recent purchase with lower price may have received a less value coupon.

Quote from: Phosphorous on January 05, 2015, 06:55:44 PM

Bitmain, why are the coupons different amounts to different people?

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Quote from: -ck on January 05, 2015, 04:49:41 AM

Here's a quick binary for the S5 based on bitmain's existing code which will ignore any queue parameter, not discard stales, should be able to ramp up smoothly if you find yourself on a very low diff pool, and use a little less CPU:

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s5/4.9.0-150105/cgminer

Binaries will only be temporary so will not survive a machine reboot.

The following will change the cgminer binary for you (set the appropriate IP address), the default root password is "admin":

Code:

ssh 192.168.1.x -l root
cd /tmp
wget http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/antminer/s5/4.9.0-150105/cgminer
chmod +x cgminer
mv /usr/bin/cgminer /usr/bin/cgminer.bak
cp cgminer /usr/bin
/etc/init.d/cgminer.sh restart

There should be a more comprehensive merge in the future into mainline cgminer, hopefully by Kano. Bitmaintech has provided us both with S5s to support cgminer development.

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Quote from: Phosphorous on January 05, 2015, 08:55:41 PM

Quote from: bgibso01 on January 05, 2015, 08:50:48 PM

Quote from: dogie on January 05, 2015, 07:14:01 PM

Quote from: Phosphorous on January 05, 2015, 06:55:44 PM

Bitmain, why are the coupons different amounts to different people?

Its to do with the batches and inter-batches having different prices and shipping dates.

You sure about that? Mine was first batch and only $30 coupons.

I'm guessing the logic is that earlier batches got their machines earlier and thus have recouped more of the cost through mining... is that right?

Maybe but doesn't make sense as the price was dropped for later batches also. I'd question if the s5 has even recouped $30 yet.

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anyone have a S5 coupon of reasonable value? Seems Bitmain is being aggressive on price vs SP20

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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 05, 2015, 07:44:47 PM

I grabbed 1

sell one, then get it again...this is well known...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

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