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Topic: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH - page 292. (Read 451048 times)

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$450 seems little high

with shipping and customs tax on top.

and poor English support. The new SP is far more efficient and what Asicminer has coming.


Underclocked, i'm getting < 0.51w/gh (at the wall) with my SP20 already, and at 1.1TH/s... I see no reason to buy S5 since the SP20 gives that at low clock, and then I have space to move up if I want to.

+1. The SP20 can be clocked to match the S5, and can easily be clocked higher or lower via the UI, not by having to find a reliable&efficient 9V or 6-10V adjustable source.
(friedcat did a similar thing with the prisma - saying if you can feed it 11V its more efficient - but in reality thats easier said than done)

If you assume an MOQ:2 as before, and shipping of ~$100/unit like for the S3 you get two approximate options;
3x SP20 = $1900 shipped, or $630/unit
3x S5 = $1350+shipping (~$300) = $1650, or $550/unit

or
15xSP20 = $8000 shipped = $533 each
20x S5 = $8400 (no info on shipping) = $420 each (plus ~$50 shipping?)

TBH its not bad pricing on both sides, but the spondoolies have FAR more flexibility to adjust for higher hashrate or better efficiency, while the S5 is stuck based on the input voltage.


Worst still, the SP20 has been out for a while, the S5 is just being released. Bitmain wasted too many resources on the U3 and C1. Where bitmaintech used to be at the forefront, they are now on the back foot.

The S5 is coming out way too late to be a serious contender.
ZiG
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Hi Guys,

S5 is same size as S3.  

Any suggestions, PM us!!!  

English Support is getting better and will be...  (I hope, if not let us know  Cry)
+1-844-248-6246 Option 2 for the techs.
Native Speakers are limited so if the line was not answered in 3 minutes, please leave a message, someone will get back to you as soon as possible.

If a 10' pole is not long enough, we may have a 20' pole to share   Grin Grin Grin  
(Sorry not being politically correct, but should be no pole needed for the S5  Wink)

New firmware Revisions to the S3 & S3+ are almost complete. This time, we are currently testing with over 2,500 S3 and S3+ with different batches to make sure it runs smoother.  *CPU performance seems to be getting better.  Hopefully the revision be uploaded once we confirm the firmware works better on these mass testing.

S5, you don't have to "hack" to achieve 0.51W/GH at higher $/GH, or better noise level

We are the support group but if you think the S5 price is not advantageous to customers, would you kindly PM us so we can forward the info to the internal sales team!!!


Happy Holiday!!!!

Main competitor ...SP20 :

$659 / 1700GH = $0.38765 per 1GH

Yours S5 is :

1155GH/s x $0.38765 = $447.73 ...Fair enough... Grin

BUT, Let's ADMIT that SP products are superior ...hardware-, software-, quality-, support-wise than yours...

The only tool left for BitMain is PRICE ...Beat them like under $400 per S5...Capisco... Huh

ZiG
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sr. member
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It depends pretty much in the shipping price for the single and the 20-pack S5
$450 is OK-ish but if you add $100 shipping it is not

So when will the orders get opened
donator
Activity: 792
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Hi Guys,

S5 is same size as S3.  

Any suggestions, PM us!!!  

English Support is getting better and will be...  (I hope, if not let us know  Cry)
+1-844-248-6246 Option 2 for the techs.
Native Speakers are limited so if the line was not answered in 3 minutes, please leave a message, someone will get back to you as soon as possible.

If a 10' pole is not long enough, we may have a 20' pole to share   Grin Grin Grin  
(Sorry not being politically correct, but should be no pole needed for the S5  Wink)

New firmware Revisions to the S3 & S3+ are almost complete. This time, we are currently testing with over 2,500 S3 and S3+ with different batches to make sure it runs smoother.  *CPU performance seems to be getting better.  Hopefully the revision be uploaded once we confirm the firmware works better on these mass testing.

S5, you don't have to "hack" to achieve 0.51W/GH at higher $/GH, or better noise level

We are the support group but if you think the S5 price is not advantageous to customers, would you kindly PM us so we can forward the info to the internal sales team!!!


Happy Holiday!!!!
legendary
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The S5 does have a clear advantage for some people. The fan noise. Some just can't deal with the SP20 noise.

I can stand SP20 (fan 50, 1350-1360 gh) when I am 20 feet away (not in the same room), with a caveat that I did not try fan at 20 yet, but would have to either create a noise reducing solution or cannot expand/buy more. Hacking the setting of fan to 15 maybe another route.
sr. member
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also - will the S5 have a full-frame case again like the s3? None of the pictures show a top cover, or even a bottom cover. I assume its to show off the innards, but if a lid isnt actually included the entire dynamic is changed somewhat.

ps: The Sp20 has all the connections at the front, and could be stacked into a 5x5 grid unlike the antminers, which can only stack side-by-side (becomes an issue if you have limited space or 15+ units)

S5 only shows a single fan so I expect it's a surrounded case utilising the same format as SPT with air being drawn through, rather than pushed through.

It's the same setup as the C1, one fan at the front pushing air through (looks like if there are screw holes in the rear you can simply move the fan to the rear in a pull position or change to the Silverstone fan I've been upgrading my S3's with).  The size of the S5 looks to be the same as the S3 minus the rear fan.
legendary
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The S5 does have a clear advantage for some people. The fan noise. Some just can't deal with the SP20 noise.
sr. member
Activity: 434
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also - will the S5 have a full-frame case again like the s3? None of the pictures show a top cover, or even a bottom cover. I assume its to show off the innards, but if a lid isnt actually included the entire dynamic is changed somewhat.

ps: The Sp20 has all the connections at the front, and could be stacked into a 5x5 grid unlike the antminers, which can only stack side-by-side (becomes an issue if you have limited space or 15+ units)

S5 only shows a single fan so I expect it's a surrounded case utilising the same format as SPT with air being drawn through, rather than pushed through.
hero member
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Anger is a gift.
$450 plus probably $100 for shipping. $550 for 1.1 TH at 600W. Efficiency is good, but that price is not.
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
also - will the S5 have a full-frame case again like the s3? None of the pictures show a top cover, or even a bottom cover. I assume its to show off the innards, but if a lid isnt actually included the entire dynamic is changed somewhat.

ps: The Sp20 has all the connections at the front, and could be stacked into a 5x5 grid unlike the antminers, which can only stack side-by-side (becomes an issue if you have limited space or 15+ units)
sr. member
Activity: 434
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i suppose the upside of BMT gear is that they go well on ebay.
If I was buying one of these, i'd probably just list it straight away and not bother mining with it myself.
legendary
Activity: 2128
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ASIC Wannabe
$450 seems little high

with shipping and customs tax on top.

and poor English support. The new SP is far more efficient and what Asicminer has coming.


Underclocked, i'm getting < 0.51w/gh (at the wall) with my SP20 already, and at 1.1TH/s... I see no reason to buy S5 since the SP20 gives that at low clock, and then I have space to move up if I want to.

+1. The SP20 can be clocked to match the S5, and can easily be clocked higher or lower via the UI, not by having to find a reliable&efficient 9V or 6-10V adjustable source.
(friedcat did a similar thing with the prisma - saying if you can feed it 11V its more efficient - but in reality thats easier said than done)

If you assume an MOQ:2 as before, and shipping of ~$100/unit like for the S3 you get two approximate options;
3x SP20 = $1900 shipped, or $630/unit
3x S5 = $1350+shipping (~$300) = $1650, or $550/unit

or
15xSP20 = $8000 shipped = $533 each
20x S5 = $8400 (no info on shipping) = $420 each (plus ~$50 shipping?)

TBH its not bad pricing on both sides, but the spondoolies have FAR more flexibility to adjust for higher hashrate or better efficiency, while the S5 is stuck based on the input voltage.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
$450 seems little high

with shipping and customs tax on top.

and poor English support. The new SP is far more efficient and what Asicminer has coming.


Underclocked, i'm getting < 0.51w/gh (at the wall) with my SP20 already, and at 1.1TH/s... I see no reason to buy S5 since the SP20 gives that at low clock, and then I have space to move up if I want to.


exactly and likewise here. I'm already matching that efficiency with SP20's and with new offerings due out shortly, bitmain are simply too far behind the curve now. With no underclocking directly available via standard 12v power supplies, it's a fail.

It will be interesting to see what Bitmain's poor choice in employees, ie dogie, will rate it. I'm sure being paid what influence his/hers/its rating.

Bitmain, I have purchased dozens of your products in the first half of the year, but your recent decisions including hiring dogie, sorry, you've made me look elsewhere.


agreed, and if there is going to be an S6 with relative specifications to the S5, well... SP31 is even more efficient than the SP20.
Just tinkering with mine now to get the best possible efficiency (0.51w/gh at the wall and 3946GH/s) ... Wink

i hereby throw down this gauntlet to BMT  Cool
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
$450 seems little high

with shipping and customs tax on top.

and poor English support. The new SP is far more efficient and what Asicminer has coming.


Underclocked, i'm getting < 0.51w/gh (at the wall) with my SP20 already, and at 1.1TH/s... I see no reason to buy S5 since the SP20 gives that at low clock, and then I have space to move up if I want to.


exactly and likewise here. I'm already matching that efficiency with SP20's and with new offerings due out shortly, bitmain are simply too far behind the curve now. With no underclocking directly available via standard 12v power supplies, it's a fail.

It will be interesting to see what Bitmain's poor choice in employees, ie dogie, will rate it. I'm sure being paid what influence his/hers/its rating.

Bitmain, I have purchased dozens of your products in the first half of the year, but your recent decisions including hiring dogie, sorry, you've made me look elsewhere.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
$450 seems little high

with shipping and customs tax on top.

and poor English support. The new SP is far more efficient and what Asicminer has coming.


Underclocked, i'm getting < 0.51w/gh (at the wall) with my SP20 already, and at 1.1TH/s... I see no reason to buy S5 since the SP20 gives that at low clock, and then I have space to move up if I want to.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
Price and specs are a bit disappointing. Even with the L1 coupons still doesn't seem like a good deal.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
$450 seems little high

with shipping and customs tax on top.

and poor English support. The new SP is far more efficient and what Asicminer has coming.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....

Experience is telling me not to touch the S5 with a 10-foot pole.


This. Precisely.

What batch are they on with the S3's now? And they still didn't get it right.......
ZiG
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...
-underclocking: chip voltage cannot be adjusted via settings like with the S3+/S4. instead, a lower supply voltage is necessary, which is not easily achieved without buying a dedicated 9V, 250W PSU per antminer in a few months from now.
...

I just wanted to write similat thing. Since it's "chained chips" design performance and efficiency will be correlative to PSU. Not many folks out there is willing to modify their new shiny 1500W platinium PSU's with 10 years warranty...

Interesting...

Are these chips on the back side DC-to-DC voltage regulators ...or NOT ... Huh

ZiG
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