on offense but I would rather buy two S3 rather than S5
Wat.. the S5 is way more efficient.. are you new to mining?
Topic: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH - page 293. (Read 451266 times)
December 22, 2014, 10:48:54 AM
Wat.. the S5 is way more efficient.. are you new to mining?
December 22, 2014, 10:48:40 AM
PROS:
- same great design
- terrific efficiency in new chip
- good efficiency gains by running chips in series without dc/dc regulators
- at lower voltage these chips are perhaps the most efficient on the market right now (spondoolies can reach about the same values when drastically underclocked)
CONS:
- Price: shipping still is not included, and compared with offers like the spondoolies 3xSP20 microfarm (which can underclock to around 1TH/550W per unit) its not an obvious winner
-underclocking: chip voltage cannot be adjusted via settings like with the S3+/S4. instead, a lower supply voltage is necessary, which is not easily achieved without buying a dedicated 9V, 250W PSU per antminer in a few months from now.
it looks nice, but right now its not competitive enough with the SP20 units which have been dropping in price crazily (down to $0.31/GH at full speed, or ~0.45/GH at more efficient clockrates). Hopefully we see an option with better undervolting abilities or a S6 at 4TH/1.2kW
- same great design
- terrific efficiency in new chip
- good efficiency gains by running chips in series without dc/dc regulators
- at lower voltage these chips are perhaps the most efficient on the market right now (spondoolies can reach about the same values when drastically underclocked)
CONS:
- Price: shipping still is not included, and compared with offers like the spondoolies 3xSP20 microfarm (which can underclock to around 1TH/550W per unit) its not an obvious winner
-underclocking: chip voltage cannot be adjusted via settings like with the S3+/S4. instead, a lower supply voltage is necessary, which is not easily achieved without buying a dedicated 9V, 250W PSU per antminer in a few months from now.
it looks nice, but right now its not competitive enough with the SP20 units which have been dropping in price crazily (down to $0.31/GH at full speed, or ~0.45/GH at more efficient clockrates). Hopefully we see an option with better undervolting abilities or a S6 at 4TH/1.2kW
Well, IF Spond would give us $533 per machine for smaller # of units (as in large farm order), then S5 and SP20 would be roughly at par in cost/performance.
I assume that shipping would be $70 for S5. However, SP20 is a known performer, while quality of S5 is unknown, but I expect it to be good.
For me-I either have to find a solution to SP20 noise or I cannot expand with it at home due to family complaints (I wish i can set up a shed or something-but cannot). SP20 has the reading of 69dB in front at 1ft distance at fan setting 50 (which produces 1.35Th at ~800W). Running SP20 at hacked fan settings (550-600W and 1000-1100Gh) is possible, but greatly reduces production, so it is at least something to think about.
Re 9V-I look for a short time, but I haven't seen 9V >4A A PSU on amazon. Maybe they exist at 10A, but you have to dig in.
December 22, 2014, 10:48:16 AM
would love to see some S5 boards to fit on s1 frames
December 22, 2014, 10:47:34 AM
SP20 wins hands down in all departments. Bitmain still haven't got the S3 firmware right yet, so I can't wait to see their attempts at getting this working properly......
bloody hell Pat, what happened to your trust rating? you been getting in a scrap?
December 22, 2014, 10:45:20 AM
Bitmain, will you PLEASE start making the boards interchangeable with rack mount units … How fricken hard is it to engineer a board that can fit into a S4 or S2 for that matter … These units with the external power supply do not scale for home mining in any way … I think your engineers need to go to the woodshed , great work on power consumption but PLEASE think about helping the people who use real racks . Im not asking for a new unit, I would just like to swap out boards .
December 22, 2014, 10:44:16 AM
SP20 wins hands down in all departments. Bitmain still haven't got the S3 firmware right yet, so I can't wait to see their attempts at getting this working properly......
December 22, 2014, 10:34:38 AM
PROS:
- same great design
- terrific efficiency in new chip
- good efficiency gains by running chips in series without dc/dc regulators
- at lower voltage these chips are perhaps the most efficient on the market right now (spondoolies can reach about the same values when drastically underclocked)
CONS:
- Price: shipping still is not included, and compared with offers like the spondoolies 3xSP20 microfarm (which can underclock to around 1TH/550W per unit) its not an obvious winner
-underclocking: chip voltage cannot be adjusted via settings like with the S3+/S4. instead, a lower supply voltage is necessary, which is not easily achieved without buying a dedicated 9V, 250W PSU per antminer in a few months from now.
it looks nice, but right now its not competitive enough with the SP20 units which have been dropping in price crazily (down to $0.31/GH at full speed, or ~0.45/GH at more efficient clockrates). Hopefully we see an option with better undervolting abilities or a S6 at 4TH/1.2kW
- same great design
- terrific efficiency in new chip
- good efficiency gains by running chips in series without dc/dc regulators
- at lower voltage these chips are perhaps the most efficient on the market right now (spondoolies can reach about the same values when drastically underclocked)
CONS:
- Price: shipping still is not included, and compared with offers like the spondoolies 3xSP20 microfarm (which can underclock to around 1TH/550W per unit) its not an obvious winner
-underclocking: chip voltage cannot be adjusted via settings like with the S3+/S4. instead, a lower supply voltage is necessary, which is not easily achieved without buying a dedicated 9V, 250W PSU per antminer in a few months from now.
it looks nice, but right now its not competitive enough with the SP20 units which have been dropping in price crazily (down to $0.31/GH at full speed, or ~0.45/GH at more efficient clockrates). Hopefully we see an option with better undervolting abilities or a S6 at 4TH/1.2kW
December 22, 2014, 10:21:22 AM
I am kind of disappointed... was more hoping of minimum .25/w/g...
Such a huge gap between the S1 & S3, this isn't even a gap since it's still the same, but improved, 28Nm process.
When it comes to hardware, I like to buy in halves... the process should always be twice as better as the previous.
Otherwise it's just too much work for nothing; I don't store or retire many miners, I sell them before they become obsolete.
Always keep a pair of each I buy as a memento and maybe future considerations.
Besides, I'm going 100% LC so, no thanks, I'll wait for C2 or another better liquid cooled miner, had more hopes for the S5 so I'll wait.
Such a huge gap between the S1 & S3, this isn't even a gap since it's still the same, but improved, 28Nm process.
When it comes to hardware, I like to buy in halves... the process should always be twice as better as the previous.
Otherwise it's just too much work for nothing; I don't store or retire many miners, I sell them before they become obsolete.
Always keep a pair of each I buy as a memento and maybe future considerations.
Besides, I'm going 100% LC so, no thanks, I'll wait for C2 or another better liquid cooled miner, had more hopes for the S5 so I'll wait.
December 22, 2014, 10:03:20 AM
a fool and his money are soon parted. December 22, 2014, 10:02:14 AM
Any word yet on if the bulk S5 purchase includes shipping?
Also, what am I missing? The C1 w/cooling is $325 @ 1000gh/s no psu, the S5 is $450 @ 1100gh/s no psu. Over $125 for less mess and a little power savings? That'd take over 150 days power difference at $.10/kwh.
New chips, new costs that must be covered by users... Also, what am I missing? The C1 w/cooling is $325 @ 1000gh/s no psu, the S5 is $450 @ 1100gh/s no psu. Over $125 for less mess and a little power savings? That'd take over 150 days power difference at $.10/kwh.
December 22, 2014, 09:43:08 AM
Any word yet on if the bulk S5 purchase includes shipping?
Also, what am I missing? The C1 w/cooling is $325 @ 1000gh/s no psu, the S5 is $450 @ 1100gh/s no psu. Over $125 for less mess and a little power savings? That'd take over 150 days power difference at $.10/kwh.
Also, what am I missing? The C1 w/cooling is $325 @ 1000gh/s no psu, the S5 is $450 @ 1100gh/s no psu. Over $125 for less mess and a little power savings? That'd take over 150 days power difference at $.10/kwh.
December 22, 2014, 09:24:55 AM
Hopefully the S5 does not follow the same fate as the L1!!!
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December 22, 2014, 09:18:50 AM
Looks like I'll be passing on this one... just not worth it for me. Hopefully some price drops will make it more of an appetising purchase
December 22, 2014, 09:11:32 AM
Exciting, really nice work Bitmain!
EDIT: Will the minimal order amount be 2 again?
EDIT: Will the minimal order amount be 2 again?
December 22, 2014, 09:10:25 AM
It seems that I check just in time ... interesting.
I will need check shipment cost.
I will need check shipment cost.
December 22, 2014, 09:03:44 AM
$450 seems little high
with shipping and customs tax on top.
450USD shipped will make S5 a bestseller
December 22, 2014, 09:02:56 AM
I would also like to know when orders will open up.
dec 27
that's when it is shipping but will they not opens order prior to that?
December 22, 2014, 09:02:16 AM
on offense but I would rather buy two S3 rather than S5
December 22, 2014, 09:01:49 AM
Specs ok but don't like the open design. I wish the price were lower also. 
December 22, 2014, 09:01:31 AM
S3's went up for sale in one hour from my posting, maybe S5's will follow suit.
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