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Topic: ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH - page 311. (Read 527809 times)

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Does anyone have the same situation as mine? I only got the PSU but not the Antminer S7.


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Please help!
hero member
Activity: 895
Merit: 504
I never use DHL anymore, I learned when I ordered the S1's! UPS <3 ^^

I will test the following with a "kill-a-watt":
-S7 @ APW3-12-1600-B2
-S7 @ Corsair 1200 AXi, while running the controller of a separate PSU.
-S7 @ XFX 1250W, while running the controller of a separate PSU.

I paid in USD btw, not Bitcoin Cheesy

The reason I'm agitated is this:
-I have received ZERO information from Bitmain.
-It's shipping kinda late. <- This is however according to the agreed terms. It's fine, but still irritating.

If they in addition to this sent me B2 units, without telling me up front, and without giving me a choice to wait for proper miners. I will be pissed.

This is why:
I'm paying 25% VAT.
Which means I'm paying 2278$ per miner from Batch 1, but they sent Batch 2 instead.
If I were to order the batch 2, I would have paid 1981$ per miner. Thats a price diff of 297$ per machine. I ordered 6. Which puts the price diff at 1782$.
The loss would be even bigger over time because of the lower hashrate. This would be a slap in the face.

I'll be honest, its not about the money, it's a bad investment because of my VAT anyway. I'm mining to support the community, for the fun of it. Hell, I even bought em to support Bitmain!!
Part of the fun is to see if my ROI calculations works out, watch the difficulty change, and mining makes it more exciting to keep myself updated on Bitcoin, and whats going on in the community.

When that is said, I do not tolerate being treated like shit. If they won't accept my terms, I will find other ways to make this feel right. Schadenfreude is my shit.

In the end, I know I will sleep like a baby.

You may get actual B1 miners in the mail!
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
I never use DHL anymore, I learned when I ordered the S1's! UPS <3 ^^

I will test the following with a "kill-a-watt":
-S7 @ APW3-12-1600-B2
-S7 @ Corsair 1200 AXi, while running the controller of a separate PSU.
-S7 @ XFX 1250W, while running the controller of a separate PSU.

I paid in USD btw, not Bitcoin Cheesy

The reason I'm agitated is this:
-I have received ZERO information from Bitmain.
-It's shipping kinda late. <- This is however according to the agreed terms. It's fine, but still irritating.

If they in addition to this sent me B2 units, without telling me up front, and without giving me a choice to wait for proper miners. I will be pissed.

This is why:
I'm paying 25% VAT.
Which means I'm paying 2278$ per miner from Batch 1, but they sent Batch 2 instead.
If I were to order the batch 2, I would have paid 1981$ per miner. Thats a price diff of 297$ per machine. I ordered 6. Which puts the price diff at 1782$.
The loss would be even bigger over time because of the lower hashrate. This would be a slap in the face.

I'll be honest, its not about the money, it's a bad investment because of my VAT anyway. I'm mining to support the community, for the fun of it. Hell, I even bought em to support Bitmain!!
Part of the fun is to see if my ROI calculations works out, watch the difficulty change, and mining makes it more exciting to keep myself updated on Bitcoin, and whats going on in the community.

When that is said, I do not tolerate being treated like shit. If they won't accept my terms, I will find other ways to make this feel right. Schadenfreude is my shit.

In the end, I know I will sleep like a baby.
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1001
Fuck, I can't sleep. I'm too worried that the 6x miners I receive tomorrow will be from Batch 2, and under perform. Then I'm basically fucked, don't know how I will react or what I will do.
/sad
/angry
/pissedthefuckoff
I heard  that batch 2 will run at 600mhz at 4800 but the wattage is 1300

You will have them in hand
Right now that is gold

My batch one came set at 575 running 4600 solid.

If my B1 order machines are hashing at 4600... I won't accept that, seriously.
As far as I'm concerned these are Bitmains options:
-Full refund.
-Ship me new machines for free, and pay shipping for the slow ones to be sent back. (With 200 GH/s hashing power per miner at hashnest until I receive new units).

This is about respect and honoring the agreement we made. I promise you all, they (Jihan Wu) won't get away with it.

man, don't wind yourself up so much..
I hope that it works out.
See below:
the S7 play is on potential btc dollar value rise, nothing else.
the breakeven is more than 12mo otherwise at 0.1 power
calculator shows just $57 difference in profitability (actually, small loss) between 4.86/1210w and 4.66/1160w machines by october 2016.
i don't think it takes halving into consideration, though.

Did you take into account the halving next summer?
legendary
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Looks like my 9/2 order is stuck in customs in Cincinnati.  Although DHL claimed a 10/12 delivery, its now 9:30pm local and I think its safe to say its not coming.  No update on the DHL site since yesterday at 5pm.  Last status was "Clearance event".

Bummed.

My DHL is horrible.  It varies greatly by area and who is doing yours.  They have a driver that has X territory.   If your in center of territory of driver most likely awesome service.  But those on edge sucks.

My DHL driver calls every time on first day and says I can meet him at a certain spot at end of day if I want it that day.  Or I can wait till next day and he will drive it. By doing this my driver get's some people to drive to him like me when it's a miner.   He saves money on gas and get's credit for a delivery it's really screwed up but he can do it.

I avoid DHL like the plague. But as I said if your in center of territory likely good service.

last few times ive gotten something from dhl they gave it to usps and i got it a day or two later then i should have Sad

legendary
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Looks like my 9/2 order is stuck in customs in Cincinnati.  Although DHL claimed a 10/12 delivery, its now 9:30pm local and I think its safe to say its not coming.  No update on the DHL site since yesterday at 5pm.  Last status was "Clearance event".

Bummed.

My DHL is horrible.  It varies greatly by area and who is doing yours.  They have a driver that has X territory.   If your in center of territory of driver most likely awesome service.  But those on edge sucks.

My DHL driver calls every time on first day and says I can meet him at a certain spot at end of day if I want it that day.  Or I can wait till next day and he will drive it. By doing this my driver get's some people to drive to him like me when it's a miner.   He saves money on gas and get's credit for a delivery it's really screwed up but he can do it.

I avoid DHL like the plague. But as I said if your in center of territory likely good service.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 523
Looks like my 9/2 order is stuck in customs in Cincinnati.  Although DHL claimed a 10/12 delivery, its now 9:30pm local and I think its safe to say its not coming.  No update on the DHL site since yesterday at 5pm.  Last status was "Clearance event".

Bummed.


I would be happy with ANY tracking info
sr. member
Activity: 470
Merit: 250
Better to have 100 friends than 100 rubles
Looks like my 9/2 order is stuck in customs in Cincinnati.  Although DHL claimed a 10/12 delivery, its now 9:30pm local and I think its safe to say its not coming.  No update on the DHL site since yesterday at 5pm.  Last status was "Clearance event".

Bummed.
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 523
Fuck, I can't sleep. I'm too worried that the 6x miners I receive tomorrow will be from Batch 2, and under perform. Then I'm basically fucked, don't know how I will react or what I will do.
/sad
/angry
/pissedthefuckoff
I heard  that batch 2 will run at 600mhz at 4800 but the wattage is 1300

You will have them in hand
Right now that is gold

My batch one came set at 575 running 4600 solid.

If my B1 order machines are hashing at 4600... I won't accept that, seriously.
As far as I'm concerned these are Bitmains options:
-Full refund.
-Ship me new machines for free, and pay shipping for the slow ones to be sent back. (With 200 GH/s hashing power per miner at hashnest until I receive new units).

This is about respect and honoring the agreement we made. I promise you all, they (Jihan Wu) won't get away with it.

man, don't wind yourself up so much..
I hope that it works out.
See below:
the S7 play is on potential btc dollar value rise, nothing else.
the breakeven is more than 12mo otherwise at 0.1 power
calculator shows just $57 difference in profitability (actually, small loss) between 4.86/1210w and 4.66/1160w machines by october 2016.
i don't think it takes halving into consideration, though.

Is there anyone that has actually had both one on spec miner and one sub par one?   I would love to see if the watts really work out to what they say.

Does anyone know if anyone has tried this an shown like a kill-a-watt with both miners using same PSU?
Running batch one s7 shipped at 575.
I'm going to jack around the MHz to see what hashrate I get
Have both corsair rm1000 and bitmain 1600watt ,I'll play with both.
I'm running 240v so I'll use a fluke to measure the amps



legendary
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aka "whocares"
Fuck, I can't sleep. I'm too worried that the 6x miners I receive tomorrow will be from Batch 2, and under perform. Then I'm basically fucked, don't know how I will react or what I will do.
/sad
/angry
/pissedthefuckoff
I heard  that batch 2 will run at 600mhz at 4800 but the wattage is 1300

You will have them in hand
Right now that is gold

My batch one came set at 575 running 4600 solid.

If my B1 order machines are hashing at 4600... I won't accept that, seriously.
As far as I'm concerned these are Bitmains options:
-Full refund.
-Ship me new machines for free, and pay shipping for the slow ones to be sent back. (With 200 GH/s hashing power per miner at hashnest until I receive new units).

This is about respect and honoring the agreement we made. I promise you all, they (Jihan Wu) won't get away with it.

man, don't wind yourself up so much..
I hope that it works out.
See below:
the S7 play is on potential btc dollar value rise, nothing else.
the breakeven is more than 12mo otherwise at 0.1 power
calculator shows just $57 difference in profitability (actually, small loss) between 4.86/1210w and 4.66/1160w machines by october 2016.
i don't think it takes halving into consideration, though.

Is there anyone that has actually had both one on spec miner and one sub par one?   I would love to see if the watts really work out to what they say.

Does anyone know if anyone has tried this an shown like a kill-a-watt with both miners using same PSU?

I have 4 of them running, they all tend to have periods where they run low but it is usually a short time before hitting normal levels again.  On the flip side, mine seem to also bump up a bit on occasion and then return to baseline.  

edited to add the following-- looking at the 24 hour average, 2 run in the 4.55 range and 2 in the 4.75 range
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
Fuck, I can't sleep. I'm too worried that the 6x miners I receive tomorrow will be from Batch 2, and under perform. Then I'm basically fucked, don't know how I will react or what I will do.
/sad
/angry
/pissedthefuckoff
I heard  that batch 2 will run at 600mhz at 4800 but the wattage is 1300

You will have them in hand
Right now that is gold

My batch one came set at 575 running 4600 solid.

If my B1 order machines are hashing at 4600... I won't accept that, seriously.
As far as I'm concerned these are Bitmains options:
-Full refund.
-Ship me new machines for free, and pay shipping for the slow ones to be sent back. (With 200 GH/s hashing power per miner at hashnest until I receive new units).

This is about respect and honoring the agreement we made. I promise you all, they (Jihan Wu) won't get away with it.

man, don't wind yourself up so much..
I hope that it works out.
See below:
the S7 play is on potential btc dollar value rise, nothing else.
the breakeven is more than 12mo otherwise at 0.1 power
calculator shows just $57 difference in profitability (actually, small loss) between 4.86/1210w and 4.66/1160w machines by october 2016.
i don't think it takes halving into consideration, though.

Is there anyone that has actually had both one on spec miner and one sub par one?   I would love to see if the watts really work out to what they say.

Does anyone know if anyone has tried this an shown like a kill-a-watt with both miners using same PSU?
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
Fuck, I can't sleep. I'm too worried that the 6x miners I receive tomorrow will be from Batch 2, and under perform. Then I'm basically fucked, don't know how I will react or what I will do.
/sad
/angry
/pissedthefuckoff
I heard  that batch 2 will run at 600mhz at 4800 but the wattage is 1300

You will have them in hand
Right now that is gold

My batch one came set at 575 running 4600 solid.

If my B1 order machines are hashing at 4600... I won't accept that, seriously.
As far as I'm concerned these are Bitmains options:
-Full refund.
-Ship me new machines for free, and pay shipping for the slow ones to be sent back. (With 200 GH/s hashing power per miner at hashnest until I receive new units).

This is about respect and honoring the agreement we made. I promise you all, they (Jihan Wu) won't get away with it.

man, don't wind yourself up so much..
I hope that it works out.
See below:
the S7 play is on potential btc dollar value rise, nothing else.
the breakeven is more than 12mo otherwise at 0.1 power
calculator shows just $57 difference in profitability (actually, small loss) between 4.86/1210w and 4.66/1160w machines by october 2016.
i don't think it takes halving into consideration, though.
legendary
Activity: 1694
Merit: 1002
Go Big or Go Home.....
BITMAIN Can suck bollox.

I've demanded a refund due to THEM breaking the contract between the buyers of Batch1 and having to pre-pay 2 weeks ago and now they mark pertty much everyone's account as 'SHIPPED',
even though that's utter BULLSHEYT.

Same here :
Send Details

Carrier   
Tracking No.   
Date   2015-09-28 00:00:00

UPS is not showing ANYTHING headed to my address so I know they haven't sent anything.

Can't believe they'd act in such an unprofessional manner knowing everyone would know about it and effect future orders and product sales form them by screwing people that pretty much finance them with
upfront capital. Shame on all of US I guess for trusting another scammy business located in CHina.

I for one will not be making this mistake ever again.

They can all go burn in their smog infested cities and disease infested rivers.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
Fuck, I can't sleep. I'm too worried that the 6x miners I receive tomorrow will be from Batch 2, and under perform. Then I'm basically fucked, don't know how I will react or what I will do.
/sad
/angry
/pissedthefuckoff
I heard  that batch 2 will run at 600mhz at 4800 but the wattage is 1300

You will have them in hand
Right now that is gold

My batch one came set at 575 running 4600 solid.

If my B1 order machines are hashing at 4600... I won't accept that, seriously.
As far as I'm concerned these are Bitmains options:
-Full refund.
-Ship me new machines for free, and pay shipping for the slow ones to be sent back. (With 200 GH/s hashing power per miner at hashnest until I receive new units).

This is about respect and honoring the agreement we made. I promise you all, they (Jihan Wu) won't get away with it.

They will not do this I can almost guarantee  almost 99 percent.  They never have been one to take machines back as far as refund.   And shipping back I can almost guarantee you will not happen either.  They will subtract X percent of hash from it and give a refund based on hashing.

Does it suck yes very much so.  But they were paid for with bitcoin so there is really no buyer protection.   It's up to the company.

I do give you some serious credit for researching the company more then most that have issues.  Seems you understand the structure of BM.
full member
Activity: 140
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Fuck, I can't sleep. I'm too worried that the 6x miners I receive tomorrow will be from Batch 2, and under perform. Then I'm basically fucked, don't know how I will react or what I will do.
/sad
/angry
/pissedthefuckoff
I heard  that batch 2 will run at 600mhz at 4800 but the wattage is 1300

You will have them in hand
Right now that is gold

My batch one came set at 575 running 4600 solid.

If my B1 order machines are hashing at 4600... I won't accept that, seriously.
As far as I'm concerned these are Bitmains options:
-Full refund.
-Ship me new machines for free, and pay shipping for the slow ones to be sent back. (With 200 GH/s hashing power per miner at hashnest until I receive new units).

This is about respect and honoring the agreement we made. I promise you all, they (Jihan Wu) won't get away with it.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
Was running in my basement.
Had two furnace blowers one in each basement window on each side, one blowing in one blowing out
Also had a 32000 btu window air conditioner at the front end of the miners.

We turn the heat on maybe four or five times a year where I live with no basements since the water table is three feet down. I will be replacing the 12k btu wall unit with a 32k btu unit once I get a baseline temperature through the fall and into winter. I will open up the side room into the garage and vent the hot air exhaust out with a 20k cfm fan in front of the wall unit and another 20k cfm fan venting to the garage where a gable fan can push out a good portion of the heat with a ridge vent.

The calculations I have made show I need 27.5-32k cfm for nine s7's, so in the fall/winter I may not need as many BTU's since I am exhaust venting, at least that's the approach I am taking. I really don't want more sunk costs with the late shipment and the halving approaching, but if the price continues slowly rising it may make sense. The trouble where I live is high humidity starts creeping in around June, but I will likely have already sold my miners by then, if I ever get them.....


Ufo
hero member
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Fuck, I can't sleep. I'm too worried that the 6x miners I receive tomorrow will be from Batch 2, and under perform. Then I'm basically fucked, don't know how I will react or what I will do.
/sad
/angry
/pissedthefuckoff
I heard  that batch 2 will run at 600mhz at 4800 but the wattage is 1300

You will have them in hand
Right now that is gold

My batch one came set at 575 running 4600 solid.
sr. member
Activity: 470
Merit: 250
Better to have 100 friends than 100 rubles

I ran a 125 amp sub panel from the 250 amp main to three 30 amp breakers about fifteen feet to L630 PDU's. Less wires and more tidy, need to work on heat mitigation though. I planned on October to be a bit cooler in Texas, but I was mistaken... I am taking the CFM approach since relative humidity is very low, at least for the next few months. Tongue


Ufo

Have you done any BTU to CFM calculation for ventilation?  Any other math?  Having the same thought - looking to supplement my homes heating this fall and winter.

I suspect what we really need is some form of hot air containment combined with the CFM ratings on the fans to balance things out.  The specs say they use 12038 fans, which push about 80 CFM one push, one pull.  Does that mean 160 CFM total or is that double counting?

I found one of these:  http://www.thelashop.com/6-400-cfm-inline-duct-booster-vent-fan-blower-aluminum-blade.html?gclid=COjL7PHsvcgCFZCCaQodPtADtQ  which I could rig with a T and blow the hot air into a house vent above my server room...
hero member
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Once I was running a decent number of s5's had to switch to 240.
It really is simple and is much safer, less heat.

I ran a 125 amp sub panel from the 250 amp main to three 30 amp breakers about fifteen feet to L630 PDU's. Less wires and more tidy, need to work on heat mitigation though. I planned on October to be a bit cooler in Texas, but I was mistaken... I am taking the CFM approach since relative humidity is very low, at least for the next few months. Tongue


Ufo
Was running in my basement.
Had two furnace blowers one in each basement window on each side, one blowing in one blowing out
Also had a 32000 btu window air conditioner at the front end of the miners.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.msg
Mine is marked shipped on 9-28, but there are definitely not any shipping details, and if it had shipped I would have received a text from UPS like I do every other time something ships from anywhere in the world, just like it did the last time I had something sent from bitmain.

I've also spoken with several others who haven't posted and theirs shows shipped on 9-28.

I haven't matched 9-28 to anything either. It is way too early for them to say that is the ship date. They aren't doing that, at least I cannot see it. It is too easy to prove / disprove.
I doubt they are going to start paying the PPS amount from that date forward as it would be earlier than their own ship by / 10 days considered late statement.

Maybe it is a batch thing. They are using it to group all the batch 1 sales together to keep them separate or keep the people together who they owe 4.8 units too?

Either way, bitmain really needs to hire someone who speaks english and has experience in public relations and a mining background.

I hope I hear something by the end of the week. I am going to continue trying to keep my blood pressure regulated. They must have either really put themselves in a bad predicament. I hope it was for a good reason and not something like our miners are sitting around hashing coin for them, they used our miners to fill some very large orders for farms, or in the positive thought sack they recognized the issue, worked on a solution, and are in the process of fixing it. If that were the case though, you would think some of the people who have received their miner would be receiving information regarding what their options are.

As a community people should truly band together with manufacturers. No product, no money. Unfortunately we are too splintered for that. Hell I didn't even look at batch 1 as a preorder until afterwards, and I know people will jump on the next release as well no matter how they are treated during this one.

It is pretty sad at the moment, but, I still say we will see someone meet this need. I wish I had ties with a foundry and a few hundred million in the bank. I know the first door I would be knocking on and no matter how many times sidehack told me to go away I wouldn't until he heard me out Smiley

Surely someone sees the potential, and I know we can all work to help more people see it if they haven't.
At last count I think it was said here in this thread that the account where we paid our coin to bitmain for S7 was at 500,000 USD, and by now with the other two batches up they are probably at least at 750,000.

That must be plenty of money for someone with deep pockets to be interested in working with a company to purchase chips and hiring some people with experience to design the board, etc.

We know there is a company who will sell chips to someone who will buy in bulk, but I think people looking in see the mining vendors as so difficult to work with, so many scams, hell, I couldn't blame anyone for deciding their money is much better off in setting up a chain of Chipotles, or a new chain of The Burger Palace.

If anyone else gets ship date marked later than 9-28 it would be great to know.

Good Luck people, even though luck doesn't exist, it has many meanings, and I am sincere when I say such.
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