You are doing what?
This is the company so many people ran to defend when people were complaining about 3rd, 4th, and 5th S4 power supplies dying.
This is the company some people are still being so optimistic about.
This is the company you get on your knees and bow to them so you can play a political game and hope you get your miner in working condition, or many people do not even have a miner on order.
Again, I say if you cannot appreciate what it is to be treated correctly, you need to get out of your own abusive relationship. You deserve better!
... and that is exactly what we have here folks, an abusive relationship.
We are staying with someone who beats, yells, and morally abuses us, and we go back saying "please sir, may I have another?"
Well, I can tell you people and companies continue to treat you this way as long as you let them. I am speaking of myself as well.
This is a steaming pile of dung served to us on a cold plate and we are told to eat, you better smile and act like you enjoy it.
This is an obvious sign this company has customer service pulling down everything and they are not going up, but down. I *thought* they have tons of money, but now, no, they don't have any and are scraping to meet current orders. This is the only explanation. I've read enough of the hashfast and others, but this is the first time I have seen a successful company go the other direction.
To offer us the few dollars per day for a few days or even weeks is ridiculous. What if we are religiously opposed to mining on Bitmain's PPS pool? They are basing that amount on something they will be pulling in plus. The "test" machines in their mines will be getting sent to us. They are mining with them during the most profitable times.
Look at what suchmoon states. He is eloquently pointing out how we are true sheeple now. There is no denying it. I will join the others who have requested a full refund. I have no delusions I will receive it, but I agree with the gentleman who stated the original sales agreement was not met. Therefore this has nothing to do with warranty, and everything to do with honoring the original sale.
I urge others to investigate other ways to support the bitcoin ecosystem. I began doing so recently as bitmain will see us all ripped of our dignity and continue stealing from the community.
Do you think for one second they didn't know about this problem when they took our money?
if this were a local business in your area would you be treated this way? Would you tolerate it? I hope not, because I would be there the second the door opened with an opportunity for them to take advantage of, and it would only involve them looking me in the eyes after they bend me over. They certainly would not be able to hide behind the internet.
I blame no one but myself for my stupidity. However after so many in this community came to the defense of bitmain after the S4 debacle, and the way they treated people I began to come around, and my curious side gets the better of me so I say sure and ordered an S5+. It has been running ok except for a few minor issues which would not be acceptable in any other business except this one because we have allowed our standards to become so low.
It is OK if they bend you over the table as long as they knock you out with drugs and give you a reach around when you wake up? If not, tell them, and tell anyone who will listen.
The ONLY precedence in something like this has been set by SCAMS, con artists and the lowest trash type of people in the world.
I understand bitmain doesn't care what we say, and that makes it even worse. I will see them at a conference, and like Josh Garza they better have bodyguards or be ready to sit and listen to what I have to say. Big words from someone behind a keyboard eh? Well, I have the money and time to devote to a personal crusade, so I may as well make it this one.
What stinks the most is knowing there are people out there who spent money they shouldn't have, you've seen it if you've been around any amount of time and lived through any type of scam. People are sucked in by the magic money boxes and know they will make X dollars, or *think* they will, and who suffers? Their fault sure, the person who spent the money I mean, but it doesn't change the fact that this company lied, they are cheating every person who ordered batch 1 and hasn't received what they were told they would.
I firmly believe bitmain is in the toilet financially, they do not and never will have the appropriate leadership to run a proper business, they have no clue in how to treat customers, and the people that make the decisions are too inexperienced to operate anything other than a local check cashing service. At least people know they are getting ripped off when they walk in the door.
Rush out another underperformer bitmain. Keep telling us how wonderful your latest chip technology is. Let me tell you how impressive this empty space on my rack is doing:
Not a fucking thing is how great it is.
Yoshi has made an effort with some people over the years and that is obvious, but he makes it clear he has no control over bitmain, he does what he can. He sent me a fan because bitmain refused to even acknowledge an email. This is after I spent 2,500 USD. The fan failed after a week. They offered to sell me one. At Least Yoshi was honest, which is what I asked for him to be, I said just tell me if I'm screwed, just tell me you aren't going to honor your own warranty. This is while we were on the phone. I was polite, professional, but like a good investigator I do ask the tough questions. I asked Yoshi I said personally Yoshi, not as a bitmain employee but your own personal opinion is this right? He was honest and sincere when he replied and said no, it isn't right, but it is what they do in these situations.
I should have known better, and I let myself make bad choices. I will no longer do so. I will not stop discussing this either. I do not care how many "people" begin to cower down again after they begin receiving their units and are happily discussing the latest mod or hashrate and I will do everything possible to warn every nub that even though there is not another manufacturer, do not go here because you will be what? Say it with me, you will be FUCKED.