[Archive] BFL trolling museum - page 17.

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Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 12:07:31 PM

Syko Ramirez, https://www.facebook.com/sykoo.ramirez
Mike Wazowski, https://www.facebook.com/mike.b.wazowski.3

That 20 year old girl and 18 year old boy sure are some awesome engineers.

To quote the girl:

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Niqqasz diisz dayysz r so dumb n chulldiish mudufckersz thiink they tha shyt by sayiin got dis much of amount on snapbacks,, shooesz,, or clothes but dnt qot a dam car -_- like really they wuna date cute qirlssz n they got the nerve to invite dem to the movies out to eat or watever n their mommy drops dem off or ah friiend n dey ask mommy for money cus they too lazy to qet up n fukin wrk idk was wronq widd qirlsz these daysz that b wantiin do date dis typa niqqasz instead of datiin responsible niqqssz that hav their own car/truck ah job n sum money safe that wen yall qo out udnt qotta paid shyt n let the niqa pay the shyt but qirlsz these daysz r fukin dumb n stupid

I assume this is an essay on how chips are delayed.

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There is more to Bitcoin than bitcoins.

Quote from: Syke on January 16, 2013, 11:36:18 AM

Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 11:13:37 AM

I know, it was a pretty awesome example

..I like how you deferred away from engineers and flipped over to management since it was readily available on NSA's website. I also seem to recall a post somewhere in this thread with a link to BFL's structure, noting Nasser, Sonny, Josh, Chris, and a few others.

Ah, the joys of selecting evidence to suit our points of view Wink

Your example is some vague recollection of some post on some random forum? Why is it so hard to find the real people that run BFL? What are they trying to hide?

I'm just lazy. Too much work to narrow down the list to just engineers. I found so many people that work there. Machinists, painters, inspectors, supervisors, welders, cnc operators, etc.

Tim Bishop, Engineer, http://www.facebook.com/tim.bishop.3914
Rossford Fayen, Engineer, http://www.facebook.com/rossford.fayen

http://www.manta.com/g/mmf50hz/steve-weed

and maybe http://www.manta.com/g/mmf50hz/howard-spencer

Besides, NSA Industries does not take money for "pre-orders" - their payment terms are Net 30. They actually deliver before you pay.

Korbman, are you really comfortable with your orders placed with BFL, and consider concerns voiced here FUD? Are you comfortable with a company that keeps not delivering as promised, that keeps lying to the community?

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Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 12:07:31 PM

Quote from: Syke on January 16, 2013, 11:36:18 AM

I'm just lazy. Too much work to narrow down the list to just engineers. I found so many people that work there. Machinists, painters, inspectors, supervisors, welders, cnc operators, etc.

Tim Bishop, Engineer, http://www.facebook.com/tim.bishop.3914
Rossford Fayen, Engineer, http://www.facebook.com/rossford.fayen

Seeee, that wasn't so hard now was it Wink

Now, let's apply these same strategies for Butterfly Labs!
Sonny Vleisides, https://www.facebook.com/sonny.vleisides
Josh Zerlan, https://www.facebook.com/josh.zerlan
Syko Ramirez, https://www.facebook.com/sykoo.ramirez
Mike Wazowski, https://www.facebook.com/mike.b.wazowski.3

I wonder if that old lady still works for BFL...

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Quote from: Syke on January 16, 2013, 11:36:18 AM

I'm just lazy. Too much work to narrow down the list to just engineers. I found so many people that work there. Machinists, painters, inspectors, supervisors, welders, cnc operators, etc.

Tim Bishop, Engineer, http://www.facebook.com/tim.bishop.3914
Rossford Fayen, Engineer, http://www.facebook.com/rossford.fayen

Seeee, that wasn't so hard now was it Wink

Now, let's apply these same strategies for Butterfly Labs!
Sonny Vleisides, https://www.facebook.com/sonny.vleisides
Josh Zerlan, https://www.facebook.com/josh.zerlan
Syko Ramirez, https://www.facebook.com/sykoo.ramirez
Mike Wazowski, https://www.facebook.com/mike.b.wazowski.3

EDIT: Why are we arguing again? This thread gets derailed seemingly every other page haha

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Hahaha this is so good

Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 10:37:36 AM

Quote from: niko on January 16, 2013, 10:03:01 AM

Again, can anyone name three BFL engineers?

Nope, since none of us work there. There's a manufacturing company an hour away from me, NSA Industries LLC, that's one of my clients. Can you name two of the engineers that work there?

Quote from: Syke on January 16, 2013, 11:36:18 AM

Tim Bishop, Engineer, http://www.facebook.com/tim.bishop.3914
Rossford Fayen, Engineer, http://www.facebook.com/rossford.fayen

Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 10:37:36 AM

On a side note, I'm thoroughly impressed by the sheer quantity of FUD in this thread.

I'm throughly impressed by the sheer quantity of your idiocy son, haha.

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Quote from: DobZombie on January 16, 2013, 06:46:22 AM

Quote from: CharlieContent on January 15, 2013, 02:10:33 PM

Does anyone who doesn't have any skin in the game still believe BFL is for real?

It seems to me that the only people who believe BFL isn't some kind of scam are those with pre-orders, the same way that only those with large investments in BCS&T believed that Pirateat40 was for real towards the end.

BFL adherents, when will you allow yourselves to consider the fact that this is a scam. When the February deadline is missed? Or are you such chumps that you will allow a convicted fraudster to lead you through yet another hoop?

I see this as one of my investments. If it pans out, it'll pay off. If it doesn't, I'll move on to my next venture.

Anyone who invests money they can't afford to lose, should just put it in a savings account.

Have you ever heard of due diligence?

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Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 11:13:37 AM

I know, it was a pretty awesome example

..I like how you deferred away from engineers and flipped over to management since it was readily available on NSA's website. I also seem to recall a post somewhere in this thread with a link to BFL's structure, noting Nasser, Sonny, Josh, Chris, and a few others.

Ah, the joys of selecting evidence to suit our points of view Wink

Your example is some vague recollection of some post on some random forum? Why is it so hard to find the real people that run BFL? What are they trying to hide?

I'm just lazy. Too much work to narrow down the list to just engineers. I found so many people that work there. Machinists, painters, inspectors, supervisors, welders, cnc operators, etc.

Tim Bishop, Engineer, http://www.facebook.com/tim.bishop.3914
Rossford Fayen, Engineer, http://www.facebook.com/rossford.fayen

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Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 11:13:37 AM

No to both haha. Good try though Tongue

Actually yes to both. Unless of course we're suddenly using regular linear time in this thread instead of BFL time and nobody told me.

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Quote from: BR0KK on January 16, 2013, 10:26:03 AM

So he does this mail fraud thing and gets away with paing 100$ fee to the court?

He defrauded ~25.000.000 USD and is not able to be sentenced to pay a fine higher than 100$
? Is the law there that stupid!?

If law is like that I'm heading to the is now ... Time to do some serious business: http://youtu.be/niaMCTPDNeo

BFL works similarly to this mail fraud.
many customers + a lot of money = impunity
Just look at this case (mail fraud) from the other side:
Nobody forced customers to pay money. Scammers are not responsible for the stupidity of their customers. They have used only chance and earned on human stupidity. They did not robbed anyone and did not steal money, the customers themselves gave them the money. Customers themselves are to blame . This is why scammers did not go to jail. Wink

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Quote from: greyhawk on January 16, 2013, 10:46:46 AM

Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 10:37:36 AM

Nope, since none of us work there. There's a manufacturing company an hour away from me, NSA Industries LLC, that's one of my clients. Can you name two of the engineers that work there?

Adam LaClair
Brian Dennis

No to both haha. Good try though Tongue

Quote from: Syke on January 16, 2013, 10:56:42 AM

Great example. Check out their web page some time.

http://www.nsaindustries.com/about-nsa/management-team/

Notice how the management team isn't trying to hide their identities? Show me BFL's management team.

I know, it was a pretty awesome example

..I like how you deferred away from engineers and flipped over to management since it was readily available on NSA's website. I also seem to recall a post somewhere in this thread with a link to BFL's structure, noting Nasser, Sonny, Josh, Chris, and a few others.

Ah, the joys of selecting evidence to suit our points of view Wink

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Quote from: greyhawk on January 16, 2013, 08:52:52 AM

Quote from: nathanrees19 on January 16, 2013, 08:45:30 AM

Quote from: Jason on January 15, 2013, 07:38:55 PM

Quite a few months ago, I started down the path of creating a custom ASIC with another member of this forum. We spoke with a number of companies that do structured ASIC designs but ultimately decided to go with a full custom ASIC design since it seemed like it would required to be competitive with the numbers being promised by the competition. Ultimately, we entered into discussions with a company in Shanghai that does ASIC design with the intent of having them do the entire ASIC design for us. Like BFL, we already had a working HDL design that we had verified on FPGA hardware. Ultimately we chose not to move forward with the venture for business reasons, but it looks like BFL is on a similar path to what we were on.

Based on what I've been reading, it seems that BFL does not have in-house ASIC engineering experience (neither did we), but rather they have opted to farm out their design to a company experienced in these matters (a very positive thing IMO). Silicon Valley probably has the highest concentration of ASIC design houses in the US, so it is encouraging to read that Josh is going there next week to meet with their ASIC design team. Using an experienced ASIC design team in combination with a straightforward logic-only design like SHA256 and a conservative 65nm process is a good formula for minimizing risk and the number of respins.

I'm out of the mining business at the moment, but if I wanted to get back in now, I'd probably choose BFL based on the information currently available.

I have no affiliation with BFL or any of it's employees.

--
Jason

Agreed.

What a great and positive response sir. Your grasp of the English language is both elegant and substantial!

+1

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on January 16, 2013, 10:52:18 AM

That was too easy. Name one redhead. Mongol like redheads.

Genghis Khan.

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Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 10:37:36 AM

Quote from: niko on January 16, 2013, 10:03:01 AM

Again, can anyone name three BFL engineers?

Nope, since none of us work there. There's a manufacturing company an hour away from me, NSA Industries LLC, that's one of my clients. Can you name two of the engineers that work there?

Great example. Check out their web page some time.

http://www.nsaindustries.com/about-nsa/management-team/

Notice how the management team isn't trying to hide their identities? Show me BFL's management team.

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Quote from: YipYip on January 15, 2013, 10:37:50 PM

...I shoot I score ...the crowd goes wild as we win the pennant

Quote from: YipYip on January 15, 2013, 10:34:31 PM

but i live in Australia (did i mention that)

You're full of shit.

I've never heard an Aussie mutter the phrase "we win the pennant" EVER.

You're a fucking liar.

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on January 16, 2013, 10:52:18 AM

Quote from: greyhawk on January 16, 2013, 10:46:46 AM

Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 10:37:36 AM

Nope, since none of us work there. There's a manufacturing company an hour away from me, NSA Industries LLC, that's one of my clients. Can you name two of the engineers that work there?

Adam LaClair
Brian Dennis

See? That wasn't so hard.

That was too easy. Name one redhead. Mongol like redheads.

Marilu Henner! She engineered a lot of high rises back in the day.

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Quote from: greyhawk on January 16, 2013, 10:46:46 AM

Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 10:37:36 AM

Nope, since none of us work there. There's a manufacturing company an hour away from me, NSA Industries LLC, that's one of my clients. Can you name two of the engineers that work there?

Adam LaClair
Brian Dennis

See? That wasn't so hard.

That was too easy. Name one redhead. Mongol like redheads.

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Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 10:37:36 AM

Nope, since none of us work there. There's a manufacturing company an hour away from me, NSA Industries LLC, that's one of my clients. Can you name two of the engineers that work there?

Adam LaClair
Brian Dennis

See? That wasn't so hard.

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Quote from: Korbman on January 16, 2013, 10:37:36 AM

Quote from: niko on January 16, 2013, 10:03:01 AM

Again, can anyone name three BFL engineers?

Nope, since none of us work there. There's a manufacturing company an hour away from me, NSA Industries LLC, that's one of my clients. Can you name two of the engineers that work there?

Quote from: creativex on January 16, 2013, 10:13:42 AM

Victims get their money back and crooks go to jail? Where is this again? Can't be the US cuz they had Enron, Solyndra, S&L, LTCM, MF Global, etc...

Those victims weren't made whole, the lawyers did well as I understand it. Keeting got a few consecutive 99 year sentences, but ruined the lives of thousands of seniors. Perhaps we should ask Vleisides' lottery scam victims if they got their money back?

Victims get Corzined and those with slick lawyers/connections rarely see the inside of jail cells, they get slaps on the wrist and told to behave. You go to jail for blue collar crimes in the States, white collar criminals generally walk.

Ah, so there have only been five company scams to have ever gone on in existence, right? Roll Eyes

Seems to me you're just remarking on the most notable examples of where not enough evidence was present to put blame on any one person. The problem here is that none of your examples apply in this circumstance. The reality is that there are dozens of scams out there that are stopped and investigated, often with outcomes in favor of the victim(s). The most recent one that comes to mind for me is Finmaestros, LLC.

Oh, and as for..

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Perhaps we should ask Vleisides' lottery scam victims if they got their money back?

Getting their money back wasn't an option. I'll give you a minute to think about why (*hint* it has to do with the number of people scammed).

On a side note, I'm thoroughly impressed by the sheer quantity of FUD in this thread.

So your revised statement is that sometimes victims get some of their money back? ...provided there aren't too many victims.

As an aside, I'm thoroughly impressed by the sheer number of BFL investors that defend BFL's FUD.

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Quote from: niko on January 16, 2013, 10:03:01 AM

Again, can anyone name three BFL engineers?

Nope, since none of us work there. There's a manufacturing company an hour away from me, NSA Industries LLC, that's one of my clients. Can you name two of the engineers that work there?

Quote from: creativex on January 16, 2013, 10:13:42 AM

Victims get their money back and crooks go to jail? Where is this again? Can't be the US cuz they had Enron, Solyndra, S&L, LTCM, MF Global, etc...

Those victims weren't made whole, the lawyers did well as I understand it. Keeting got a few consecutive 99 year sentences, but ruined the lives of thousands of seniors. Perhaps we should ask Vleisides' lottery scam victims if they got their money back?

Victims get Corzined and those with slick lawyers/connections rarely see the inside of jail cells, they get slaps on the wrist and told to behave. You go to jail for blue collar crimes in the States, white collar criminals generally walk.

Ah, so there have only been five company scams to have ever gone on in existence, right? Roll Eyes

Seems to me you're just remarking on the most notable examples of where not enough evidence was present to put blame on any one person. The problem here is that none of your examples apply in this circumstance. The reality is that there are dozens of scams out there that are stopped and investigated, often with outcomes in favor of the victim(s). The most recent one that comes to mind for me is Finmaestros, LLC.

Oh, and as for..

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Perhaps we should ask Vleisides' lottery scam victims if they got their money back?

Getting their money back wasn't an option. I'll give you a minute to think about why (*hint* it has to do with the number of people scammed).

On a side note, I'm thoroughly impressed by the sheer quantity of FUD in this thread.

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Quote from: BR0KK on January 16, 2013, 10:26:03 AM

He defrauded ~25.000.000 USD and is not able to be sentenced to pay a fine higher than 100$
? Is the law there that stupid!?

Stupid isn't the word. Corrupt and dysfunctional are better descriptions of the US legal system.

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