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bce
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December 22, 2012, 03:48:23 AM

1200SF warehouse; 4800SF Office. As of Nov. 14th, space was still available, but we were shown equipment moving in prior to that date. Possibly, the earliest starting least date was Dec. 1st. No sprinkler system. Least rate.


I don't know, but this is one big freakin' post! Smiley  

You are wrong. Nowhere is mentioned "1200 sq. ft".

Yeah I dont get how that works either.  Says 6000SF is avail, largest space is 6000SF, smallest space is 4800SF and office space is 4800SF (so I'm assuming this only has 2 spaces). Is he only renting some of the space? Does that happen in shit like this?



The 1200 SF warehouse space is implied. There is 6000 SF available, 4800 SF of which is considered office space. I simply subtracted the small number from the bigger number to arrive at the warehouse size. This is standard wording in such a classified ad.

As far as the will-build-to-suit is concern, yes some the office area could have been demoed, thus enlarging the warehouse/assembly area, but that would have taken time. Remember, it was a couple months ago we were shown the eBay oven being unloaded at their new warehouse, a different facility than this one which, according to Jody, they started moving into yesterday.

~Bruno K~

Yes, but whats the 13k number? Is this the total space of the whole building?


I don't know, but this is one big freakin' post!  Smiley 

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December 22, 2012, 01:34:01 AM

1200SF warehouse; 4800SF Office. As of Nov. 14th, space was still available, but we were shown equipment moving in prior to that date. Possibly, the earliest starting least date was Dec. 1st. No sprinkler system. Least rate.

You are wrong. Nowhere is mentioned "1200 sq. ft".

Yeah I dont get how that works either.  Says 6000SF is avail, largest space is 6000SF, smallest space is 4800SF and office space is 4800SF (so I'm assuming this only has 2 spaces). Is he only renting some of the space? Does that happen in shit like this?



The 1200 SF warehouse space is implied. There is 6000 SF available, 4800 SF of which is considered office space. I simply subtracted the small number from the bigger number to arrive at the warehouse size. This is standard wording in such a classified ad.

As far as the will-build-to-suit is concern, yes some the office area could have been demoed, thus enlarging the warehouse/assembly area, but that would have taken time. Remember, it was a couple months ago we were shown the eBay oven being unloaded at their new warehouse, a different facility than this one which, according to Jody, they started moving into yesterday.

~Bruno K~

Yes, but whats the 13k number? Is this the total space of the whole building?
bce
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December 22, 2012, 12:49:28 AM

As far as the will-build-to-suit is concern, yes some the office area could have been demoed, thus enlarging the warehouse/assembly area, but that would have taken time. Remember, it was a couple months ago we were shown the eBay oven being unloaded at their new warehouse, a different facility than this one which, according to Jody, they started moving into yesterday.


As far as has been discussed, and as far as I know, the first run of ASICs out of BFL will not involve use of the oven or pick and place machine.  If this is the case, all that'll be needed in the next month or so for product assembly is a pretty simple final-assembly area.
mrb
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December 22, 2012, 12:45:46 AM

1200SF warehouse; 4800SF Office. As of Nov. 14th, space was still available, but we were shown equipment moving in prior to that date. Possibly, the earliest starting least date was Dec. 1st. No sprinkler system. Least rate.

You are wrong. Nowhere is mentioned "1200 sq. ft".

Yeah I dont get how that works either.  Says 6000SF is avail, largest space is 6000SF, smallest space is 4800SF and office space is 4800SF (so I'm assuming this only has 2 spaces). Is he only renting some of the space? Does that happen in shit like this?



The 1200 SF warehouse space is implied. There is 6000 SF available, 4800 SF of which is considered office space. I simply subtracted the small number from the bigger number to arrive at the warehouse size. This is standard wording in such a classified ad.

As far as the will-build-to-suit is concern, yes some the office area could have been demoed, thus enlarging the warehouse/assembly area, but that would have taken time. Remember, it was a couple months ago we were shown the eBay oven being unloaded at their new warehouse, a different facility than this one which, according to Jody, they started moving into yesterday.

~Bruno K~

The ad says "smallest space = 4800 sq ft" which implies that they cannot rent only the 1200 sq ft area, but have to rent at least 4800 sq ft. IOW I don't believe your later posts implying that "a dozen workers will share only 1200 sq ft" are correct...
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December 21, 2012, 11:15:27 PM

1200SF warehouse; 4800SF Office. As of Nov. 14th, space was still available, but we were shown equipment moving in prior to that date. Possibly, the earliest starting least date was Dec. 1st. No sprinkler system. Least rate.

You are wrong. Nowhere is mentioned "1200 sq. ft".

Yeah I dont get how that works either.  Says 6000SF is avail, largest space is 6000SF, smallest space is 4800SF and office space is 4800SF (so I'm assuming this only has 2 spaces). Is he only renting some of the space? Does that happen in shit like this?



The 1200 SF warehouse space is implied. There is 6000 SF available, 4800 SF of which is considered office space. I simply subtracted the small number from the bigger number to arrive at the warehouse size. This is standard wording in such a classified ad.

As far as the will-build-to-suit is concern, yes some the office area could have been demoed, thus enlarging the warehouse/assembly area, but that would have taken time. Remember, it was a couple months ago we were shown the eBay oven being unloaded at their new warehouse, a different facility than this one which, according to Jody, they started moving into yesterday.

~Bruno K~
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December 21, 2012, 10:08:17 PM
The wording in all of that smells of a misunderstanding, or some kind of required field on a form that was filled out wrong by the listing agent.

"Will build to suit, but only if you want one specific layout"
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December 21, 2012, 09:58:40 PM

1200SF warehouse; 4800SF Office. As of Nov. 14th, space was still available, but we were shown equipment moving in prior to that date. Possibly, the earliest starting least date was Dec. 1st. No sprinkler system. Least rate.

You are wrong. Nowhere is mentioned "1200 sq. ft".

Yeah I dont get how that works either.  Says 6000SF is avail, largest space is 6000SF, smallest space is 4800SF and office space is 4800SF (so I'm assuming this only has 2 spaces). Is he only renting some of the space? Does that happen in shit like this?
mrb
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December 21, 2012, 09:45:36 PM

1200SF warehouse; 4800SF Office. As of Nov. 14th, space was still available, but we were shown equipment moving in prior to that date. Possibly, the earliest starting least date was Dec. 1st. No sprinkler system. Least rate.

You are wrong. Nowhere is mentioned "1200 sq. ft".
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December 21, 2012, 09:35:16 PM
Therefore, when they do eventually ship the announcement should be:

"They're here."
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December 21, 2012, 09:32:51 PM
BFL built their new facility on Indian burial grounds without performing the ancient Rite of Eternal Rest. All BFL devices produced in the new facility will be haunted.
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December 21, 2012, 09:29:33 PM
Despite my complete lack of proof, I hereby formally make the assumption that BFL hosts dogfights in their office lounge.
If so, I'm sure that the dogs involved don't meet their originally stated specifications and arrive late to the fight.
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December 21, 2012, 09:24:33 PM
Good god, this is getting off the fucking leash. We're just going to start pointing out random laws that we ASSUME BFL is breaking?

Despite my complete lack of proof, I hereby formally make the assumption that BFL hosts dogfights in their office lounge. I'm calling the fucking cops and I can't believe you people support this company.
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December 21, 2012, 07:36:09 PM
I was only able to view half of the graphic video prior to you posting the link, but viewed the following in its entirety: Protecting workers: How OSHA conducts inspections
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December 21, 2012, 07:01:58 PM
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December 21, 2012, 06:57:23 PM
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December 21, 2012, 06:28:08 PM
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No worries. I'm sure that in the unlikely event OSHA showed up to inspect the work environment, Josh would lay such a scathing verbal assault upon the goons that they'd beat a hasty retreat and never "troll" in the neighborhood again.

I'll tell you what! I'm glad I'm not in the manufacturing business.

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Tips to Avoiding Whistleblower Complaints

Employers are advised to keep an eye on OSHA's whistleblower developments and to take steps to avoid unnecessary retaliation claims. First and foremost, employers should be vigilant in assessing their workplace for compliance with workplace safety and health standards. Here are some additional tips:

Employers should already have anti-discrimination and anti-harassment policies in place. Employers should also have and disseminate to every employee a written internal procedure setting forth how employees can bring safety complaints to their employer. These policies should contain provisions to encourage employees to come forward with complaints about health and safety and a non-retaliation statement.

Any employee policy, including safety incentive programs, can become legally suspect when it is enforced in a discriminatory or arbitrary manner or when the policy becomes a "pretext" or sham excuse for retaliation against the employee. Make sure all safety incentive programs are administered in a fair and consistent manner.

Be alert to any situation where employees are in fact discouraged or prohibited from reporting workplace injuries and illnesses and take appropriate action to stop it.

Make certain your company's safety and health program, including your employee handbook and training materials, clearly spells out an employee's obligation to report work-related injuries in a timely manner. Set forth the company's disciplinary policy for safety infractions. Repeat this message through periodic safety meetings.

Remember that OSHA's recordkeeping rules require employers to set up a procedure for employees to report work-related injuries and illnesses. Make sure this procedure is in place, communicated to employees, and that all recordable injuries are correctly and timely logged on the OSHA 300 form.

Although employees always have the legal right to call OSHA, employee safety concerns are better addressed through direct contact with management. Encourage your employees to promptly report any safety and health concerns to their immediate supervisors or, as applicable, safety personnel and management.

In addition to meeting the responsibility to investigate complaints of health and safety violations, properly document all complaints and the investigation of complaints.

An employee who makes a complaint should not be ignored or ostracized, and the employee should be reminded to seek assistance if he or she experiences problems as a result of his or her complaint.
Document all employee performance issues so that subsequent disciplinary action is justified and does not form the basis of alleged retaliation.

Make certain supervisors are properly trained on handling an injury, filing an internal injury report, and on OSHA's whistleblower requirements including the various forms of "protected activity," the various types of illegal retaliation, and what to do when faced with an OSHA whistleblowing complaint.

Unfortunately, I already know firsthand what the EPA can do if they find one spec (maybe it was a few more) of lead paint in your warehouse(s). BTW, thank you again, Bitcoinica.
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December 21, 2012, 06:25:27 PM
legendary
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December 21, 2012, 06:15:43 PM
http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_id=9725&p_table=STANDARDS

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1910.37(a)
The danger to employees must be minimized.
1910.37(a)(1)
Exit routes must be kept free of explosive or highly flammable furnishings or other decorations.
1910.37(a)(2)
Exit routes must be arranged so that employees will not have to travel toward a high hazard area, unless the path of travel is effectively shielded from the high hazard area by suitable partitions or other physical barriers.
1910.37(a)(3)
Exit routes must be free and unobstructed. No materials or equipment may be placed, either permanently or temporarily, within the exit route. The exit access must not go through a room that can be locked, such as a bathroom, to reach an exit or exit discharge, nor may it lead into a dead-end corridor. Stairs or a ramp must be provided where the exit route is not substantially level.
1910.37(a)(4)
Safeguards designed to protect employees during an emergency (e.g., sprinkler systems, alarm systems, fire doors, exit lighting) must be in proper working order at all times.
1910.37(b)
Lighting and marking must be adequate and appropriate.
1910.37(b)(1)
Each exit route must be adequately lighted so that an employee with normal vision can see along the exit route.
1910.37(b)(2)
Each exit must be clearly visible and marked by a sign reading "Exit."
1910.37(b)(3)
Each exit route door must be free of decorations or signs that obscure the visibility of the exit route door.
..1910.37(b)(4)

1910.37(b)(4)
If the direction of travel to the exit or exit discharge is not immediately apparent, signs must be posted along the exit access indicating the direction of travel to the nearest exit and exit discharge. Additionally, the line-of-sight to an exit sign must clearly be visible at all times.
1910.37(b)(5)
Each doorway or passage along an exit access that could be mistaken for an exit must be marked "Not an Exit" or similar designation, or be identified by a sign indicating its actual use (e.g., closet).
1910.37(b)(6)
Each exit sign must be illuminated to a surface value of at least five foot-candles (54 lux) by a reliable light source and be distinctive in color. Self-luminous or electroluminescent signs that have a minimum luminance surface value of at least .06 footlamberts (0.21 cd/m2) are permitted.
1910.37(b)(7)
Each exit sign must have the word "Exit" in plainly legible letters not less than six inches (15.2 cm) high, with the principal strokes of the letters in the word "Exit" not less than three-fourths of an inch (1.9 cm) wide.
1910.37(c)
The fire retardant properties of paints or solutions must be maintained. Fire retardant paints or solutions must be renewed as often as necessary to maintain their fire retardant properties.
1910.37(d)
Exit routes must be maintained during construction, repairs, or alterations.

I'm pretty sure I can't convert a farmer's barn into an assembly plant and hire a dozen employees to churn out product without having to worry about OSHA sprinkler and other safety guidelines because the structure was built over 100 years ago. Even if I started doing such, it would only take one disgruntle employee to make a call and my production timeline would be pushed back considerably. In fact, I may be called in from the proprietor next door who's churning out a similar product by his employees inside a barn that is up to OSHA standards out of spite and future sales concern.
bce
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December 21, 2012, 03:53:24 PM

DobZombie is correct Cheesy

You've umm...seen the hashes then? Undecided


LOL!  Fucking Strange, but funny!  

Seriously though,  I know of a data center nearby who is happy to not have sprinklers - they were grandfathered in.  I believe they use a Halon chemical extinguisher system, and so far so good.  I personally would rather be in that building than one that could get everything soaked in water Smiley
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December 21, 2012, 03:34:08 PM

DobZombie is correct Cheesy

You've umm...seen the hashes then? Undecided

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