Topic: [Archive] BFL trolling museum - page 71. (Read 69394 times)

Correct. Someone just forgot to change the thread title.

This is the place where brilliant minds assemble to willfully pool ignorance with questionable logic in order to reach absurd conclusions.

OMG- how did I miss this?

That was freaking hilarious, thank you!

It's pretty easy on the internet. 


It seems ever thread like this has one of those.

Anyone remember this?

THEN CORRECT HIM WITH YOUR OWN FACTS. This is why people laugh at you to your face, you just go around saying people are wrong without offering opposing view points.

You keep saying this, but as per your usual mode of operations you are just pulling "facts" out of your ass.  This is why I call you an idiot.  You do not know the first thing about BFLs financials or how we work, yet you keep making these grand pronouncements as if you do.  I would ask you to stop, but you and both know you're incapable of telling the truth in your posts.  Nearly everything you post, at least with regards to BFL is a lie one way or another and this is just another example of your inability to separate your little fantasy world in your head (the way you wish things were) with the way things actually are.  You whine and cry about how mean I am to you and how it's hurting BFL's business... but guess what, you are wrong.  Most people here think you're an idiot and every time I make a post pointing out how stupid you are, our sales jump.  Yes, I'm serious about this... I already pointed it out to you in the previous thread(s) that I only post on here when things slow down sales wise.  The more you post your stupidity, the more ammunition you give me to refute your lies and BS.  If you stopped posting lies, I would have nothing to post... but yet you are (apparently) incapable of refraining from posting false information about BFL.  So I thank you for that.

You complain about my lack of professionalism.  Sir, I ask you why you think you deserve professionalism?  You have done nothing but attack me and BFL from the start.  You have done nothing but post false information and blatant lies time after time.  Tell me, why do you think you deserve ANY respect what so ever?  You are a troll, plain and simple.  You deserve nothing but contempt and disdain.  

Just as a side note for all the dumbasses that seem fixated on 1200 sq ft.  WTF?  Where does this logic even come from?  Why would we rent only 1200 sq feet of warehouse space?  How does that even make any sense?  This is why I call some people idiots.  You start spouting this nonsense like it makes perfect sense and then run with it.  It's seriously the Special Olympics here half the time.  ZOMG!  They rented 1200 sq feet of space, it must mean they can't manufacture anything!  Never mind that other 4800 sq feet that's mentioned, we'll conveniently ignore that because you can't possibly rearrange the inside of a building to suit your needs, because that's IMPOSSIBLE!!!!1!!!1 ZOMG BFL IS LYING!~!!!  There is no way a website can be inaccurate!  Everything posted on the internet is true!  OMG!!!!!!!!1! BFL IS LYING!!!1!!!! OMG!!!!

Agreed.

To be fair, Apple never had a RDF. Steve Jobs did. RIP Steve Jobs.

It's the batcave... shhh... don't tell anyone.

On a more serious note... I don't care about warehouses (except the one I have). I don't care about forum drama (ecept when it's funny). Can we just please have a concrete day as to when the first products get shipped? Not delayed, not needing a re-spin, not needing a NEW clock buffer, not needing anything except the UPS/FEDEX/USPS guy picking them up to deliver to us. I want that day so I know to order MORE of your products, or to order your competitors cause BFL simply can't deliver.

Since when is the size of your office space Top Secret information?

BFL will be at CES:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/539-butterfly-labs-appear-ces-convention.html


(speculation below)

In that thread, "BFL AM Dave", the one who made the announcement in the OP, confirmed that the prototypes will not be hashing at the conference and will be dummy prototypes.

Does BFL already know that they will not have a product mid January? They seem to already know that they won't have a hashing prototype in time for Jan. 11th. The middle of January to me is January 15th, four days after that.

Is this another "oh- soorry guys- WE JUST FOUND OUT (in reality we knew about a month ago) that we have to delay" BFLism?

Thanks for this Giga.  I've maintained all along that anyone surprised/upset by anything related to BFL is revealing nothing but the fact that they made an uninformed decision about working with small tech start-ups.  Really sorry folks, but you just didn't do your research.  Oops, now I'm gonna get trolled/flamed.  Fortunately, I don't care since in the end I profit from that ignorance.

Certainly understandable, but it doesn't explain the complete lack of explanations. If you are simply trying to build a business then you protect your reputation, because it's good business. In this case it would cost BFL nothing additional to employ a COO/PR frontman with the ability to act with some semblance of professionalism, yet they fail to do so. It would also cost BFL nothing to explain the inconsistencies with their public statements, instead the same poor performing company officer liberally dispenses insults to those that inquire. I think we can all agree this is bad business policy if you intend to continue operations going forward.


I've other words I'd choose to describe gigavps, but that's not relevant at this time.

I think a lot of the inconsistencies arise from normal daily operations. Things change, I'm not sure it can get any simpler.

When you are trying to build a business, product, whatever of significant magnitude, it's like trying to fly a plane while you are putting it together. When shit happens, you change the plan while you are still flying.

I experience this everyday. Unless you have a reality distortion field like Apple (which their's has even started to falter a bit, aka Apple maps...) things NEVER GO AS PLANNED.

What's that saying "the best laid plans of mice and men often go astray". You try to plan for the unknown unknowns, but something almost always comes up that takes your plans and throws them out the window.

I'm sure this post will bring out the "gigavps is a BFL shill" but this is the reality of things when you are building a business.

lol

Tough! ...it shan't take you long to dox me anyway, I've all but done as much myself here on bitcointalk. Even an "idiotic stalker creep" could figure it out at this point.

Now you're pissing me off by posting truisms. Remember, I can find out who you are and where you live and am not afraid to post it. If I can't find you, I'll simply post vitals of some random guy I'll find on the internet and claim it's you.

Humor aside, nice post.

~Bruno K~

It's actually worse than that to my mind. The BFL reps quoted seem to want to increase BFL's credibility by posting soundbites that require no proof whatsoever, which is fine by itself, but then when someone questions the inconsistencies in those posts they're attacked as idiots and/or stalkers by BFL's failure of a COO/PR frontman and a band of BFL supporters.

How can one be a stalker when the relevant information was posted by a BFL employee on an open forum? PG is simply fact checking a post made by a BFL rep, there's absolutely nothing inappropriate or creepy about it. There's a whole lot of money on the line here, and blindly accepting what any company employees say without proof can prove to be a very costly mistake.

These recently pointed out inconsistencies in BFL releases are just the latest in a long line of inconsistent and confusing posts by BFL reps. Inconsistencies that always seem to favor BFL and never seem to be addressed in any way other than their grossly incompetent COO leveling personnal attacks at potential customers on a public forum.


...another useless post. Playing dumb, combined with further insults aimed at other's intelligence. You may disagree with what PG is posting, but he's clearly not an idiot. You're only further discrediting yourself at this point.

Conceding the fact that BFL IS leasing said warehouse (was never my concern), the points I was trying to relay is that the flex space is not large enough to be used as an assembly process, warehouse and shipping area (including staff), and that the warehouse was only recently leased, thus negating previous statements to the contrary. To further drive the latter point home... 12-24-2012, 02:15 AM: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/550-contest-week-12-little-single-sc-giveaway-11.html#post8737


Granted, the first/second/possibly third batches won't be assembled in house, but it was stated by BFL that that will be the case down the road. Perhaps because the flex space has an 18' ceiling height, a second floor can be constructed by AL Huber, thus giving BFL 2400 SF, enabling them to assemble in house with a more adequate space, albeit I believe they'll still come up short.

@ Nathan

The point is that Inaba is acting like the US government. Somehow labeling anything they don't want to talk about under a National Security label.

Warehouse? What warehouse? I cannot confirm nor deny a warehouse exists. It is a proprietary information and we think it would give our competition an edge. <-- Paraphrased.

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Second, if he doesn't want to talk about it then don't come hurling insults at us for it. Some of the stuff he has called "LIES, DIRTY LIES!!" actually turned out to be true.

PG is looking into the facts behind the warehouse, that is his angle. Not mine. I am simply chiming in every now and then just like everyone else.

My recent questions are about actual statements made by BFL that reference their scope of their operation and their intent to keep it a secret from their competition. I have speculated recently that they may have many private orders that might be a form of repayment to the VC investors.

The actual hashrate going online (when ever they get around to it) may be larger than what their public statements say.

This is my current side of the argument. PG has his own.