No one said anyones delays make anyone elses better.
Talk to BFL & Inaba - they seem to think different.
Even more important would seem to be why is a render from a company that actually looks like a circuit board rather then shapes on MS paint not proof of a design or more of a design then the MS Paint version?
You doing it again: "Maybe we suck - but the others suck more".
As for BFL's renders: They just shows
some PCB. I simply don't believe BFL anymore. They have blatantly lied to the community on purpose. The hardware gurus have proven it (clock buffers, bullet runs, redesigns, waiting for fab & all that crap).
Some people have opinions. They will differ from yours.
No problem with that. But I
do have a problem with asshamsters / paid shills.
Disagreeing with a loudmouth online doesn't make someone an asshamster.
No. But having a BFL ad in the signature & "behaving" in a conform way to be eligible to have a chance to win a (non-existing!) product makes someone an asshamster.
DICK!
Or to put it anoer way. The "Experts" where can I buy their Bitcoin hashing ASIC? Oh Right Silly Me THEY DON"T HAVE ONE. So is this to say that every "Expert" is an asshamster? They have a non-existant product. But I really don't think they are asshamsters. Just people who didn't put up.
Delays. None are better. None are worse. Delays cost money. Every delay. Everyone who ordered. bASIC isn't clean of it, bitcoinsyn isn't clean of it, BFL isn't clean of it. Delays happened. Inaba didn't say theirs are worse. He said they delayed too. He noted bASIC didn't have a rendering months after BFL released something resembling a PCB with actual parts in locations. Sure it doesn't take long. Yeah I do wonder why people badger the guy that actually gives more info then bASIC. Right the delays. My order and others where marked Jan 1, 2013. Until then although not on the hoped schedule the aren't late. The date was in writing. Yes the projected hopeful date failed. The actual contractual date will now fail too. People hounded BFL far before the contractually required final delivery date was missed about the delays. So far BFL is closer to their required shipping date then bASIC is by 4 weeks. bASIC last I checked was looking at an overshoot of 6 weeks BFL was only 2 weeks unless I missed the announcement that put them past Jan 14, 2013. No ones hands are clean on this. Everyone is late.
Yes I see that you hate Inaba pointing out when the competition wasn't doing as much for "Transparency" as BFL was and BFL was the one made to look bad over it. Seems hypocritical to tout the bASIC's transparency when BFL gave far more information. Granted you don't belive BFL's information but they have given quite a lot.
Had I known type of answer to delays. Had I known that I would have 6 months to make coins off a BFL single rather then the ASICs being out in 2. I likely would have in the middle of August ordered 1 more single. Increased what I take in and paid for an upgrade already from those and nearly 2 upgrades. BUT I didn't know that the bitcoin would be back above $12.5 in December. I didn't know when for sure no bitcoin ASIC would ship. All I knew is that I could upgrade or fall behind. Had I gone the other way I would likely be in a better position. BUT I could equally likely have been sitting on 2 BFL singles in november making jack and crap with the bitcoin worth $2 adn difficulty so high I would never able to pay for the upgrades out of either returned capitol or spent revenue stream.
Is that anyones fault? Yes MINE. I chose the path of upgrading. I chose what to spend the coins on. I chose the story that would leave me in the best postion if the timeline was correct. Sure I don't make the same amount with my upgrade as I do now. But I make what I do now regardless. I could have made more, or had to put more money in to make what anything.
I am not paid by BFL directly. I am paid by anyone who uses bitcoins. I bought a product that pays me to run it. I am happy enough with it. bASIC's early posts in this thread turned me off to their product. As far as the Avalon group I like that they are quite polite in their dealings except for the price I would have looked farther into that unit. Trade in made the upgrade path a no brainer, and if the timelines where correct I would have likely still been in front of it.
Preorder taking 100% upfront. I don't like it. Then again I don't hate it either. Would I have put in an order sooner if they only required a down payment You bet. My order likely would move up as the spots are not secure when people make holding deposit. This way I don't expect much change. Some move towards the front of the line sure. But not much. As far as blah blah blah interest free loan. The coins don't pay me interest anymore. Could I change it into $ yeah but then I can convert it back or pay for a wire transfer. BOOO. Cashing out costs money too. Even then I would only get .8% and it wouldn't amount to much. It would be less then 3$. Does every dollar count sure. Playing the exhange timing game has gotten me more then that though.
Again not saying any delay is better. I am saying everyone has delayed to about the same time. coincidence, Karma, don't care. Well I don't care. Everyone is looking at about the same hashrate. Power useage likely will matter some. BFL is smallest process and will likely use less power. bASIC has a bit higher currently spec'ed hashrate. But all this is based on guesses. Tom's, Avalon's, and BFL's guesses.
I hope that when the hard numbers are released (tested not viagra) that most of this goes away. I really would like more information with my reading. Until then peeps gonna chirp.
