Pages:
Author

Topic: [Archive] BFL trolling museum - page 92. (Read 69394 times)

legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1047
September 29, 2012, 11:57:07 PM
Where did they post these new numbers?

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/16-Announcement-BFL-ASIC-Release-specifications

Follow the link silly. Cheesy

Quote
Announcement: BFL ASIC - Release specifications
Butterfly Labs reveals final performance specifications for it's revolutionary ASIC hardware.

BitForce Jalapeno - 4.5gh/s @ 4.5w
BitForce Single SC - 60 GH/s @ 60w
BitForce MiniRig SC - 1,500 GH/s @ 1,500w

Power figures are +/- 10% of those listed while we finish optimizing our power subsystem.

NEW An as yet named 'Little Single' device which will hash at a rate of 30 GH/s and cost USD $649.00.

You may notice that these performance figures exceed that of our previously published specification by approximately 50%. Our intention was to eventually over deliver while also being conservative during development. We had planned to reserve this performance increase for a future firmware update and was one method we planned to use to protect our customers in the event of a price war. However, due to the maturity of our development and competition in the market, we felt it was time to clarify what customers will actually receive both in speed and particularly in power consumption so they can properly evaluate their options and make good decisions. We hope it's now easier to understand the closed lip approach of our ASIC line product development.

A pledge to our customers: Butterfly Labs has always been committed to our customers. With the transition to ASIC from FPGA, we offered a 100% buyback program on the purchase price of your FPGA units towards the purchase of one of our ASIC units. This is an offer currently unmatched by any other manufacturer. People have asked why would we do this? We do this because our mission is to stand behind our customers and preserve the value of their hardware investment through all market changes, now and in the future. Simply put, you can count on us to protect your mining investment.

In summary, all current orders are automatically 4.5 GH/s - 60 GH/s or 1.5 TH/s devices. You need do nothing, just wait for delivery.

Our Value pledge: As always, our focus has been on offering the most competitive product, both in terms of initial price but also the most competitive TCO in the industry. Our current power consumption targets for our first generation ASIC products are approximately 1 GH per watt, far and away the lowest power consuming units available at any price. Not only will our products perform faster than any other product currently available, it will also cost less to run now and in the future. As with our FPGA products, when the time comes for our second generation ASIC products, we will not forget our customers and will make every effort to transition you, the customer, to the second generation ASIC as easily, quickly and in the most cost effective manner as possible.

sr. member
Activity: 291
Merit: 250
September 29, 2012, 11:56:20 PM
Where did they post these new numbers?
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1047
September 29, 2012, 11:51:24 PM
lol looks like the bASIC is worrying BFL?

More likely they're getting later into the development process, and they're getting more realistic numbers.

They were conservative (same way bASIC was). Competition arrived, now they are less conservative.

Way to meet the competition head on and not leave those who have pre-ordered rethinking their investment.

I still want to see what the MH/s per Watt will be on all ASIC offerings.

Interesting times ahead.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/16-Announcement-BFL-ASIC-Release-specifications
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
September 29, 2012, 11:43:20 PM
lol looks like the bASIC is worrying BFL?

More likely they're getting later into the development process, and they're getting more realistic numbers.

They were conservative (same way bASIC was). Competition arrived, now they are less conservative.
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
September 29, 2012, 11:41:56 PM
Probably responding to bASIC offering 54GH/s for $1099.

Still, it's a little puzzling. Did they have 50% more performance in the bag that they weren't using, or will they increase the number of chips per device? The new 4.5GH/s Jalapeno spec is still less than the old 5GH/s per chip Single spec, so an increase in the number of chips would be a possibility, but it would really destroy their timeline.

I suppose it could be coincidental and they just got the chips back and were able to clock them faster than expected, but the timing is a little convenient for that.
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
September 29, 2012, 11:38:10 PM
lol looks like the bASIC is worrying BFL?

More likely they're getting later into the development process, and they're getting more realistic numbers.

Remember, BFL did NOT want a repeat of last time, with the Single. Rather than lowering specs, they'd prolly rather start conservative, and then raise estimated specs. Lo and behold, here we are.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
September 29, 2012, 11:35:27 PM
lol looks like the bASIC is worrying BFL?
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
September 29, 2012, 11:35:09 PM
Nice new specs! 60 Ghash singles, wooo!

Wow! Is this a joke? The mini rig is at 1,500 GH/s now.

Jalapenos: 4.5GH/s
Singles: 60GH/s
MR: 1.5TH/s

0_0
member
Activity: 102
Merit: 10
September 29, 2012, 11:25:45 PM
Nice new specs! 60 Ghash singles, wooo!

Wow! Is this a joke? The mini rig is at 1,500 GH/s now.
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1008
September 25, 2012, 05:01:19 AM
As a customer of course I have a right to know what I buy.
No. You choosing to enter into a pre-order agreement does not grant you any right to additional information about the product you've pre-ordered. As an intelligent person you made the decision to place a pre-order with whatever information was available at the time. You don't gain any rights to more information after you've placed your order. If you regret your purchase, I'm sure BFL will help you cancel it.

Stop whining about people owing you information, and instead make a decision with the information you have available.
Things - and, indeed, life in general - work much more smoothly this way.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
September 25, 2012, 04:39:14 AM
As a customer of course I have a right to know what I buy.

You aren't a customer, you are a potential one.
I'm sure you will buy something when you are woo'ed

Anyone want to buy what I am holding behind my back? Addy in sig.

Yes I am a customer, and probably do more pre-orders, I said that I trust in BFL, but it is annoying not to have more information when entrusted with large sums of money.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
September 25, 2012, 04:33:01 AM
As a customer of course I have a right to know what I buy.

You aren't a customer, you are a potential one.
I'm sure you will buy something when you are woo'ed

Anyone want to buy what I am holding behind my back? Addy in sig.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
September 25, 2012, 04:31:10 AM
I don't think that pre-order means "don't know what you buy".

At beginning is logical, there is avalon, they still have nothing, but at this point I think it that no should be problem posting this info.

I trust BFL but this is a little annoying

EDIT:
It's something: D
http://www.btcmu.info/templates/malita-fjt/slideshow/1.jpg
Oh, you don't think there would be a problem posting this info? Well it's settled then, they should post it! You obviously know more about BFL and their state of development than they do themselves.

As others have said, if you don't want to buy before pictures and videos are released, don't buy anything. The notion that BFL "owes" you information on their products is just childish.

Development Status? if at five days to initial product delivery scheduled are still under development would be very bad thing.

As a customer of course I have a right to know what I buy.
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1008
September 25, 2012, 04:19:55 AM
I don't think that pre-order means "don't know what you buy".

At beginning is logical, there is avalon, they still have nothing, but at this point I think it that no should be problem posting this info.

I trust BFL but this is a little annoying

EDIT:
It's something: D
http://www.btcmu.info/templates/malita-fjt/slideshow/1.jpg
Oh, you don't think there would be a problem posting this info? Well it's settled then, they should post it! You obviously know more about BFL and their state of development than they do themselves.

As others have said, if you don't want to buy before pictures and videos are released, don't buy anything. The notion that BFL "owes" you information on their products is just childish.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
September 25, 2012, 03:48:23 AM
it's time to publish detailed photos of three systems, videos of each mining at full capacity, etc ... is absurd that we continue buying blindly.

Then don't buy.

lol exactly. People keep complaining and crying, well if you don't want to take the risk to pre-order, don't. Nothing is forcing you to pre-order. Wait until they are released then order. Goddamn.

I don't think that pre-order means "don't know what you buy".

At beginning is logical, there is avalon, they still have nothing, but at this point I think it that no should be problem posting this info.

I trust BFL but this is a little annoying

EDIT:
It's something: D


Whats annoying? The picture or ?
Edit means  that I found image after writing the post, annoying is that there is not more detailed information of the systems.
sr. member
Activity: 446
Merit: 250
September 24, 2012, 11:45:55 PM
it's time to publish detailed photos of three systems, videos of each mining at full capacity, etc ... is absurd that we continue buying blindly.

Then don't buy.

lol exactly. People keep complaining and crying, well if you don't want to take the risk to pre-order, don't. Nothing is forcing you to pre-order. Wait until they are released then order. Goddamn.

I don't think that pre-order means "don't know what you buy".

At beginning is logical, there is avalon, they still have nothing, but at this point I think it that no should be problem posting this info.

I trust BFL but this is a little annoying

EDIT:
It's something: D


Whats annoying? The picture or ?
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
September 24, 2012, 09:22:43 PM
it's time to publish detailed photos of three systems, videos of each mining at full capacity, etc ... is absurd that we continue buying blindly.

Then don't buy.

lol exactly. People keep complaining and crying, well if you don't want to take the risk to pre-order, don't. Nothing is forcing you to pre-order. Wait until they are released then order. Goddamn.

I don't think that pre-order means "don't know what you buy".

At beginning is logical, there is avalon, they still have nothing, but at this point I think it that no should be problem posting this info.

I trust BFL but this is a little annoying

EDIT:
It's something: D
hero member
Activity: 576
Merit: 500
September 24, 2012, 09:11:57 PM
it's time to publish detailed photos of three systems, videos of each mining at full capacity, etc ... is absurd that we continue buying blindly.

Then don't buy.

lol exactly. People keep complaining and crying, well if you don't want to take the risk to pre-order, don't. Nothing is forcing you to pre-order. Wait until they are released then order. Goddamn.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
September 24, 2012, 08:32:01 PM
it's time to publish detailed photos of three systems, videos of each mining at full capacity, etc ... is absurd that we continue buying blindly.

Then don't buy.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
September 24, 2012, 08:21:46 PM
it's time to publish detailed photos of three systems, videos of each mining at full capacity, etc ... is absurd that we continue buying blindly.
Pages:
Jump to: