Then have a media day and allow anyone that wants to visit the lab to see the units in action to do so. Don't ship units out to hand chosen shills people so they can rape the difficulty all in the name of proving BFL isn't lying (again).
I think this is a great idea and I would love to do this instead, but then we'll get complaints that somehow we gamed the demo and if we really wanted to prove it, we should have sent the units out to people so they could test it any way they want, instead of with our canned "media" demo that is using a Cray XMP backend to produce the results over an encrypted cellular network, and the extra power required is beamed in via a cold fusion powered infrared laser.
Or just pick out "proven" community members and invite them to the BFL lab....
Just give the community anything to trust in!
Not that "We have something that can hash very fast and we are taking money for preorder now...... aww u want proof .... go to hell or trust us ....radiosilence ...." crap BFL is doing right now?
Why not showing us (the community) some details about the new Product, like you did with the FPGA singles?
Again, a fine idea, but again we'll get complaints that we rigged the demo somehow. I'm not sure about the radio silence thing, since there's nothing that hasn't already been said available to communicate. What details would you like to know?
I am confused as to why you NEED to have people vett and verify that the units exist and do what they are supposed to do? Why not just let the first shipment tell everyone that? Do you expect a huge wait time between the time when you have a handful of units that you could ship out to high profile individuals vs when the first large shipment will go out? Personally, I don't think you need to prove anything. Your FPGA singles have already proven that you can produce a good mining product.
No, what I don't want to happen is that we ship out a handful of units here, a handful of units there, and those units that get sent out first give the first deliverables a huge advantage and pump the difficulty. We want to have all the participants lined up and released at the same time, so no one has a marked advantage. I don't mean we are going to send out minirigs or probably even singles to anyone. We would send out the a Jalapeno to a few individuals that are trusted by the community to evaluate and report back that yes, they in fact do what's claimed and it's not a big scam. Frankly, I am really boggled by the fact that people are seriously complaining that we are trying to be open with the performance of the product and send it to people that have no vested interest in BFL conducting a scam.
That's exactly my contention as well. As long as they have a backlog of product, they don't need to prove anything to anyone. Focus on shipping out the backlog, THEN work on convincing the skeptics (which they won't need to at that point, since the shipment of the backlog would have proven everything they can prove).
Very true, we don't NEED to do this, we are trying to do this as part of an effort to further the bitcoin community and provide as much openness as we can under the constraints of actually, you know, running a business instead of a charity project.
Why wasn't this information in the ordering process?
Some obscure forum post, not even an official forum for Bfl decides I might miss out on maximum profitability.
And now, behind the scenes it is decided that 'special' people get to kill the Bitcoin difficulty while I wait!
I ordered ignoring all this anti Bfl Bullshit. Now I feel like i have been conned.
What information? When did you order? Nothing has been decided behind the scenes, it's all been out in the open. If you had questions, did you ask? If you ordered early, then you're likely in the first 2/3, so what is your complaint, exactly? If you ordered late, again, what is your complaint? Do you expect to get an iPhone 5 on launch day if you didn't pre-order? In either case, send me a PM with your order number and/or full name and I can get you a refund ASAP and I apologize for any confusion in the order. We will gladly refund 100% of your money.
AFAIK, the 1/3 lotto only stands for the first batch of shipments, and only counts for those who ordered within the first month. After that it will be business as normal, fulfilling order numbers as they come.
Exactly. The 1/3 plan was decided on before I came aboard. All the plans seemed to have unhappy people, and this plan seems to be the best fit (as decided by the community) to have the least amount of unhappy people as possible. As it stands now, it seems like you have a minimum of a 66% chance of being in the first batch, depending on when you ordered. If it was exceptionally early, then you have a nearly 100% chance. Those are dang good odds.
Now, back to the random 1/3. Does anyone have suggestions on how best to use the blockchain to determine the lotto results? I have several ideas, but I'm sure the giant brain of bitcoin can come up with a more creative method than I can on my own.
I don't have a problem with BFL sending out test units at all - it just seemed unnecessary to me, but it certainly wouldn't hurt anything (other than people clamoring to try and be a tester, lol).
